There is a difference between people in Government buying massive properties overseas and then hiding behind immunity and other people who legitimately or illegitimately buy properties overseas.
and that legitimizes PPP haram khori? That is my point. The PPP guys do so much haram khori that PML(N) and others look dwarfs in the world of corruption and benefits them :P
Why do you need to take stuff personally?
What is the difference? I don't think you are ****** that you don't realize that people working in the government may be your close relatives, not fallen from hell.
You say so because PPP leadership is from Sindh and it creates a lots of pain you know where. According to your gutter class thinking your Punjabi leaders are allowed to do whatever they like to do with the country. You should come out of this Punjabism and think like Pakistani. If you think PPP leadership involved in corruption than PML(N) is more corrupt. Your corrupt Punjabi leaders are not dwarfs, they are alligators and father of creating corruption since creation of Pakistan.
I am not personal I really pissed off when your posts are based on racism. Behave neutral, I will be fine.
Perhaps you are living in poor neighborhood:). Do you think Pakistani TOM, DICK and HARRY are behind in the race of acquiring foreign properties? It is impossible for a honest Pakistani to buy even a third class property in Pakistan rather than acquiring billions of dollars property out side of Pakistan. This is just one example. Don’t under estimate Paki corrupt mentality.
and those must be stats for the last 5 years yeah including Bhutto's palaces in UAE
If you really take the statistics of these buyers, it will come out to be more than 90% people of Punjab. Punjab was not ruled by PPP in last five years. Go figure.
If you really take the statistics of these buyers, it will come out to be more than 90% people of Punjab. Punjab was not ruled by PPP in last five years. Go figure.
Yes PPP did nothing wrong in last years they are saint right?
Not even a penny they took from Pakistan to other countries :)
Yes PPP did nothing wrong in last years they are saint right?
Not even a penny they took from Pakistan to other countries :)
We are talking about Pakistanis purchasing foreign properties. If you talk about saint or devil, Imran Khan is also not saint. Three is a case pending in high court against his misappropriation of Zakat, Chandah, Bhatta etc fund. Do you want me to refresh your memory?
We are talking about Pakistanis purchasing foreign properties. If you talk about saint or devil, Imran Khan is also not saint. Three is a case pending in high court against his misappropriation of Zakat, Chandah, Bhatta etc fund. Do you want me to refresh your memory?
What is the difference? I don't think you are ****** that you don't realize that people working in the government may be your close relatives, not fallen from hell.
You say so because PPP leadership is from Sindh and it creates a lots of pain you know where. According to your gutter class thinking your Punjabi leaders are allowed to do whatever they like to do with the country. You should come out of this Punjabism and think like Pakistani. If you think PPP leadership involved in corruption than PML(N) is more corrupt. Your corrupt Punjabi leaders are not dwarfs, they are alligators and father of creating corruption since creation of Pakistan.
I am not personal I really pissed off when your posts are based on racism. Behave neutral, I will be fine.
haram khor, haram khor hota hai, Punjab ka ho ya Sindh ka. PPP mein ho tau bahut taraqqi kerta hai.
Haram khor raja pervez ashraf sehwan shareef se aay they? Ask an illeterate person in timbuktu what he thinks about a country's plan to have rental power plants to improve long term energy shortage and he'll go mad.
It is only you who turns everything into racism.
Say whatever about politicians you don't like and I won't ever get personal with you. You get personal every time I call someone corrupt. Don't force me to explicitly say what you have been implying about people who were in government service before and moved to the west.
haram khor, haram khor hota hai, Punjab ka ho ya Sindh ka. PPP mein ho tau bahut taraqqi kerta hai.
Haram khor raja pervez ashraf sehwan shareef se aay they? Ask an illeterate person in timbuktu what he thinks about a country's plan to have rental power plants to improve long term energy shortage and he'll go mad.
It is only you who turns everything into racism.
Say whatever about politicians you don't like and I won't ever get personal with you. You get personal every time I call someone corrupt. Don't force me to explicitly say what you have been implying about people who were in government service before and moved to the west.
to bhai in ko jail main dalo na teen teen kyon kartay ho. oh I know he is from Punjab hence he can not go to jail eh. I can also repeat these bs stupid rants against any politician. Again I am not personal. keep your comments neutral, I will be fine. Don't target one political party as others are more evil than you think.
to bhai in ko jail main dalo na teen teen kyon kartay ho. oh I know he is from Punjab hence he can not go to jail eh. I can also repeat these bs stupid rants against any politician. Again I am not personal. keep your comments neutral, I will be fine. Don't target one political party as others are more evil than you think.
Jail mein dalney wali government thi 5 saal... kya kiya? Jail mein daala? How many corruption scandals did the PPP government uncover and prosecute during their tenure? 0. How many corruption scandals have PML(N) government pursued against previous PPP government? 0. Mil jul ke haram khori kertay hain..... magar, PPP walay tau kertay hi sirf haram khori hain aur kuch nahee. Compared to them, African dictators look super momin. That's the benefit PML(N) has... people compare them with PPP and think things could have been much worse.
You can rant as much as you want against any or all politicians (as if you don't already), but keep personal comments for posters out of discussion. Thanks you.
I am not talking about neighborhood community here, but like Memon, Rajput etc… one of those (not necessarily the one I mentioned :p).
Also, “Tom Dick and Harry” does not apply on “leaders”.
Secondly, you are posting about “Dubai” which is neither part of Europe, America or Canada. So lets see something which proves your first statement unless you backtrack and admit that it was exaggeration.
to ab dalo in ko jain main kis ne tumhen roka hay? PPP government is not in power what is the hitch now arresting the corrupts?
jis laanati kirdar ne cases banaiay the woh mulk ko loot kar Doha bhaag gaya. Is ne wahan par loot maal ki pre febricated concrete structure ki factory lagai howee hay. woh ab Pakistan kyon nahin aata? Hasn’t he went to Zardari and asked for forgiveness for installing false cases?
It is a shame guys like you behave “holier than though” attitude. You are covering a maha corrupt person but since he is Punjabi it is o.k. for you. Before you write bs nonsense read the history.
How FIA kidnapped notables to please Saif-ur-Rahman
Chairman of the Ehtesab Bureau, Senator Saif-ur-Rahman, used his power to harass political opponents and kidnapping leading businessmen. He operated mostly through a select group of FIA officials while Nawaz Sharif had first-hand information about Saif’s involvement in the kidnapping of some of the very reputed citizens as he ignored strong complaints against this nasty operation even from his cabinet colleagues. [3]
For instance when the FIA sleuths kidnapped Farooq Hasan, owner of Hasan Associates, a renowned builder and developer of Karachi in 1998 and locked him at a Saif-run safe house in Islamabad, federal minister Halim Siddiqi had rushed to Nawaz Sharif to inform him about Saif’s involvement in the kidnapping of a well-known Karachi businessman. Halim Siddiqi’s pleas both to Sharif and Saif went unheeded as Hasan had to stay for about a week in Saif’s dungeon and was only released when he signed a confessional statement that had been prepared by Saif’s lieutenant at the Ehtesab Cell. Saif prepared confessional statement for Farooq Hasan relating to dealings of AES power plant with the Benazir government. Throughout his confinement Hasan was physically abused, mentally tortured and was not allowed to sleep. Hasan was also kept and interrogated at Saif’s personal residence in Islamabad.
Jamil Ansari, the Chief Executive of a famous trading and business group in Karachi, was also kidnapped in 1998 by the FIA while he was about to board a Karachi-bound flight from Islamabad. For the next four days Ansari’s family in Karachi had no knowledge of his whereabouts. The case was soon brought to the knowledge of Nawaz Sharif, who conveniently ignored protest from an associate who thought that such daylight kidnappings of the business luminaries without any charges would bring the PML government into disrepute. For more than a week, Ansari, a businessman, was questioned for his friendship with a ranking naval official. This week-long illegal detention under Saif’s orders of the chief executive of a reputed firm had sent a shock wave in Karachi’s mercantile community, but the Nawaz Sharif administration was not bothered.
The FIA was also involved in the kidnapping of Shahzad Sherry, a well-known international banker, from Karachi. Like other victims, Sherry was also swiftly shifted to Islamabad, where he was locked at a government-run safe house. For several days Sherry was kept in illegal confinement and questioned by the former Ehtesab Bureau stalwarts including Senator Saif-ur-Rahman. Sherry was apparently also paying price for his friendship with certain naval officials. His detention also continued for several days before being released without bringing any criminal charges against him.
Karachi-based Jamil Hamdani, another representative of an international bank, was kidnapped from his house in Defence Society Karachi in Oct. 1999 and was forced to board an Islamabad-bound flight for an urgent meeting with Saif-ur-Rahman and his team. Saif pointedly informed Hamdani about his disliking for his bank’s interest in the privatisation of Habib Bank Limited. Jamil Hamdani was believed to be working on an international consortium that was interested in the management of overseas operations of Habib Bank. No apologies were offered after Hamdani was set free three days later by the Ehtesab sleuths who also warned him not to talk to the press about his ordeal.
Saif’s frenzy to get private citizens abducted through the FIA touched its peak last year when he used the federal agency to kidnap Arif Zarwani, a UAE national and a reputed businessman, from his friend’s house in Defence Society Karachi. Zarwani, who had been arrested in an FIA-cum-police raid, was quickly flown to Islamabad, where he was handed over to Wasim Afzal, a close associate of Saif-ur-Rahman. The Ehtesab action created a stir in the UAE as Nawaz Sharif was personally told that Zarwani’s kidnapping in Karachi had endangered his official visit next day to the UAE. Zarwani, who was apparently picked up for his ties with Asif Zardari, was freed from the Ehtesab clutches, two days later, only after he was forced to listen to a telephonic sermon from Saif who was then touring Europe. No reasons were given for Arif Zarwani’s arrest nor any criminal charges were brought against him. Despite an official protest from the UAE Nawaz Sharif did not question Saif or the FIA for the kidnapping of a foreign national.
In another case Ghulam Mustafa Memon, a well-known petroleum dealer and a former friend of Asif Ali Zardari, was kidnapped in an FIA action from his house in Defence Society, Karachi in 1998. During the operation the FIA sleuths ransacked his house. Memon, like other victims, was quickly flown to Islamabad where he was kept at a safe house for about a week. Mustafa Memon said that during the detention, he went through severe physical torture and mental harassment at the hands of senior Ehtesab officials. At last a week later Mustafa was quietly released from Islamabad and no criminal charges were brought against him.
Among others who made the hostage list of Saif-ur-Rahman was Naeemuddin Khan, a senior United Bank Limited (UBL) executive responsible for recovering Rs 1.2 billion loans from Saif-ur-Rahman’s Redco Textile Mills. While using the FIA in the kidnapping of Naeemuddin Khan from his room at Karachi’s Pearl Continental Hotel, Senator Saif is understood to have told the FIA that Naeemuddin was involved in money laundering. Without verifying the facts an FIA team barged into Naeemuddin’s room in August this year and in the next few hours he was facing a Saif-ur-Rahman interrogation squad at an unspecified location in Islamabad. Naeemuddin’s ordeal ended after Nawaz Sharif listened to a strong complaint in this regard from National Assembly Speaker Illahi Bukhsh Soomro and ordered the bank executive’s release. Sharif, however, refused to order any probe into the kidnapping of a bank executive who was being punished for his attempt to recover Rs 1.2 billion of loan from Saif-ur-Rahman.
Leading newspaper columnist Hussain Haqqani had been kidnapped by the FIA sleuths along with his brother, an active service Army Colonel, during an evening stroll on direct orders from Saif-ur-Rahman in early 1999. It was at least three days after Haqqani’s kidnapping that Saif-ur-Rahman ordered the FIA bosses to “produce” a case against him. Official sources confirmed Haqqani’s account that he was beaten and kept awake during the first week of his arrest. Haqqani was of the few Saif victims whose captivity brought criminal charges, vehemently denied by Haqqani who said that the cases against him was the figment of Saif’s imagination.
The annual 1997 Human Rights Report of US State Department said the Accountability Commission, established by the caretaker government and headed by a retired judge, had been overshadowed by an “accountability cell,” headed by a close associate of the prime minister. This cell had been accused of conducting politically-motivated investigations of politicians, senior civil servants, and business figures, designed to extract evidence and, in some cases, televised confessions of alleged wrongdoers. The report gave the examples of televised confessions extracted from Salman Farooqi, secretary of commerce under Benazir Bhutto; Ahmed Sadiq, Benazir Bhutto’s principal secretary; and Zafar Iqbal, chairman of the Capital Development Authority. It said most politicians and bureaucrats, who had been charged with corruption or other crimes, were out on bail.
I am not talking about neighborhood community here, but like Memon, Rajput etc... one of those (not necessarily the one I mentioned :p).
Also, "Tom Dick and Harry" does not apply on "leaders".
Secondly, you are posting about "Dubai" which is neither part of Europe, America or Canada. So lets see something which proves your first statement unless you backtrack and admit that it was exaggeration.
to ab dalo in ko jain main kis ne tumhen roka hay? PPP government is not in power what is the hitch now arresting the corrupts?.
as I said earlier, mil baith ke khanay ka program chal raha hai pichlay kai saal se.
It is a shame guys like you behave "holier than though" attitude. You are covering a maha corrupt person but since he is Punjabi it is o.k. for you. Before you write bs nonsense read the history. ...........
FYI, all major haram khori during last 5 years was done by Punjabi "leaders" of the haram khor party. Some people can see beyond ethnicity. Unfortunately, some don't and I feel sorry for those narrow minded bigots.
as I said earlier, mil baith ke khanay ka program chal raha hai pichlay kai saal se.
FYI, all major haram khori during last 5 years was done by Punjabi "leaders" of the haram khor party. Some people can see beyond ethnicity. Unfortunately, some don't and I feel sorry for those narrow minded bigots.
You always blame PPP perhaps it is in your faith to oppose PPP no matter what. No objection. Which Punjabi leaders of PPP are you talking about, the only scandal I heard was of Raja Pervez Ashraf. Punjab was ruled by PML(N) in last five years, not PPP. As regarding "mil baith ke khanay ka program chal raha hai", people have elected PML(N) isn't it? yeh mil beth kar khanay ka program 1947 se chal raha hay. You are also part of it.