PML-Q Senators rebel

With Mush losing his grip on the senate, things will move even faster in stripping Mush of his power.

Forward bloc’ in Senate deals blow to PML-Q
By Ahmed Hassan

ISLAMABAD, Feb 26: In what is being termed the first major blow to the erstwhile coalition led by Pakistan Muslim League-Q, six of its senators announced on Tuesday that they had formed a forward bloc and demanded separate seats in the upper house.

The senators — Ms Neelofar Bakhtiar, Wali Muhammad Badini, Chaudhry Zafar Iqbal and Amjad Abbas of the PML-Q, Israrullah Zehri of the BNP (Awami) and Asif Jatoi, son of former prime minister Ghulam Mustafa Jatoi, of the NPP — claimed that they had the support of a few other senators as well who would join them at the time of submitting applications for separate seats in Senate.

The announcement came a day after the PML-Q had announced at a news conference that entire parliamentary group had reposed ‘full confidence’ in the leadership of party president Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain.

The former ruling coalition had a comfortable majority in the 100-member upper house with 58 senators.

When approached by Dawn for comments on the development, PML-Q secretary general Mushahid Hussain Sayed said: “Two of the forward bloc members – Wali Muhammad Badini from Balochistan and Neelofar Bakhtiar – were present in the PML-Q parliamentary party meeting while other four did not turn up.”

He said that in a democratic system everyone had the right to differ and form a forward bloc, adding that under the law the dissenting members might criticise their party and issue statements but they could not cast their votes against the party policy.

Talking to newsmen at the Islamabad Press Club, Ms Bakhtiar said that they did not call it a forward bloc, adding: “We only wish to bring democracy within our party and Pakistan and we will support all those organisations which want democracy promotion in the country.“We want to play an effective role in Senate — we haven’t done this for money or privileges — I will do what is just and right and in the interest of Pakistan,” Ms Bakhtiar asserted.

Senator Wali Muhammad said: “We talk of independent judiciary — when Chaudhry (Shujaat) Sahib was the prime minister, two committees on Balochistan issue were constituted and Mushahid Hussain Syed held talks, but to no avail.”

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Oh Dear what would now happen to that assertion that the president cannot be impeached because the senate is with him. :rotfl:

On a serious note the lota league will continue to desert the sinking ship of the illegal president.

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More and more…

http://www.dawn.com/2008/02/28/top6.htm

President under fire in Senate

ISLAMABAD, Feb 27: President Pervez Musharraf and the caretaker government came under more fire on the second day of an opposition-sought debate in the Senate on Wednesday amid voices of hopes that the next government of the winners of the Feb 18 elections would rectify the alleged wrongdoings of their predecessors.

Former prime minister Shaukat Aziz, who left the country before the elections and who was repeatedly referred to by opposition speakers as an “imported prime minister”, also came under severe criticism for allegedly pursuing a faulty economic policy and for current economic hardships of the people such as the prevailing inflation and food and power shortages.

The debate on the “overall political situation in the country”, which was marked also by charges of poll-rigging that the opposition said could not prevent a defeat of pro-Musharraf parties, will continue on Thursday morning, to be wound up in the evening by a minister of the caretaker cabinet, which was accused of pursuing the agenda of the previous one led by the Pakistan Muslim League (PML).

A day after the treasury benches were shocked by the formation of a rebel “like-minded group” of six of its members who could support the present opposition and the future ruling parties, some senators of the former ruling coalition had words of praise for the president and the government for holding what they called a free and fair election and promised to cooperate with the next government’s move for the welfare of the people and oppose those were not so.

There were no immediate signs of any further setback to the government in the Senate on a day the three main election-winning parties — PPP, PML-N and ANP — used a luncheon to demonstrate their big majority in the newly elected National Assembly that they said would be able to form the next government and eventually turn into a two-thirds majority in the 342-seat lower house after the award of special seats for women and minorities in proportion to their directly elected general seats.

In the midst of the debate, opposition Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal senators Rehmatullah Kakar and Kamran Murtaza questioned the appointment of interim Law Minister Syed Afzal Haider as a judge of the Federal Shariat Court and wanted to know who had prepared the summary, or proposal, for the notification issued before the elections.

The minister was present in the house at the time but preferred silence about the queries while Deputy Chairman Mir Jan Mohammad Jamali said Information Minister Nisar A. Memon could reply about the matter in his speech at the end of the political debate, which will be followed by one on the economic situation.

In the debate, Abdul Rahim Mandokhel of the Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party said the election his Balochistan-based party boycotted as part of the All Parties Democratic Movement had become a “fraud and unconstitutional” after President Musharraf’s Nov 3 extra-constitutional emergency, but it served as a rejection of the “supporters of martial law and General Musharraf” as well as religious parties he blamed for encouraging terrorism. He said the winning parties must implement their pledges, including restoration of the pre-Nov 3 judiciary, solving economic problems and combating terrorism and called for the elimination of what he called “training camps and sanctuaries” of terrorists of which he said everybody in Pakistan was aware.

Tahir Mashadi of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, which emerged as the largest second party in Sindh and fourth in the country, described the election result as a “strong anti-fundamentalist message”, and said his party would give its “fullest support” to other democratic forces in moves for the good of the people such as fighting terrorism, checking the price hike, hoarding and black-marketing, promoting health and educational facilities, elimination of corruption and nepotism and grant of “complete” provincial autonomy as envisaged by Pakistan’s founders in 1940 and 1947. He said his party stood for the independence of the judiciary but was against its politicisation and proposed that parliament should have a role in the appointment of judges to ensure their independence.

Former PML law minister Khalid Ranjha said the winning parties must be helped to solve people’s problems, but called for giving up “accusatory talk” and an end to the “culture of flattery”. Referring to the opposition’s demand for restoration of sacked judges, he said it was bad to remove judges but controversial persons should not be made judges.

Shahid Bugti of the Jamhoori Watan Party said implementation of pledges made by the PPP about Balochistan would be very good, but added that he would not engage in optimism in view of the experience of the past. He advised the PPP to first strengthen its grip on power and then take practical steps to solve the problems of the troubled province.

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Ooops. Another false dawn. :slight_smile:

PML Q Forward block members taking a quick reverse turn. I hear another member Asif Jatoi also came on the floor of the Senate and dissociated himself from this motely little group. What a shame, another hope dashed for some.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008/02/28/story_28-2-2008_pg7_19

Badani reaffirms support for Shujaat

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) dissident Senator Wali Muhammad Badani on Wednesday reiterated his support for party President Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain a day after he along with five other senators announced formation of a forward bloc within the party. Speaking on a point of order in the Senate, Badani said it was wrong to label the group as forward bloc, as it was a group of like-minded senators from different parties with the sole aim to do politics on issues without blindly following the party policies.

**“I want to make it clear that we are still with the party. We are not leaving the party. Chaudhry Shujaat is still our leader,” **he added.

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Lotay.


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http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=107327&d=29&m=2&y=2008

Senate Setback for Musharraf
Azhar Masood, Arab News

ISLAMABAD, 29 February 2008 — The Pakistan Muslim League (Q), the party that backs Pervez Musharraf, suffered an embarrassing setback yesterday when it failed to table a motion supporting the president in the Senate for lack of quorum.

PML (Q) Secretary-General Syed Mushahid Hussain had said during an interview with GEO television on Wednesday that his party would demonstrate its strength in the upper house if poll winners Pakistan People’s Party of slain former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and the Pakistan Muslim League of Nawaz Sharif flexed their muscles in the National Assembly (lower house of Parliament). But the leader of the house, Wasim Sajjad of PML (Q), failed to move the pro-Musharraf for lack of quorum.

A senator belonging to PML (Q) but now part of Nilofar Bakhtiar-led Forward Block and former Foreign Minister S.M. Zafar told the house that six senators belonging to the party would not support such a motion because President Musharraf had failed to honor his 2004 commitment to shed his uniform.

Undaunted, Pervez Elahi, a close confidant of Musharraf, defended the president outside the house. “He has been elected president for five years. He will remain president for five years,” he said.

Leading the charge against Musharraf, a former army general who cracked down on the opposition, judiciary and media last year, are the parties of Benazir Bhutto and Sharif. The two parties finished first and second in the Feb. 18 parliamentary election. The Pakistan Muslim League-Q lost heavily.

Elahi, who would have been the PML-Q’s prime minister had the party won, said Musharraf would not resign. “There is no such proposal. Nor is he considering it,” Elahi told reporters.

Musharraf’s stand has raised the prospect of a new political crisis that could spoil Pakistan’s return to democracy after eight years of military rule.

The US has continued to back Musharraf because of his sustained support for Washington’s war on Taleban and Al-Qaeda militants operating in rugged parts of Pakistan near the Afghan border. The government blamed an Al-Qaeda-linked militant commander for Benazir’s Dec. 27 assassination.

On Wednesday, the parties of Bhutto and Sharif urged Musharraf to quickly convene the National Assembly so the parties can form a government.

Sharif said the prospective coalition partners have 171 seats out of the 272 in the National Assembly and would soon secure the two-thirds majority needed to change the constitution or impeach Musharraf.

In November, Musharraf declared a state of emergency and purged the Supreme Court before it could rule on the disputed legality of his re-election as president a month earlier.

Pro-Musharraf parties have retained a slender majority in the 100-seat Senate.

— With input from agencies