PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

[Monk]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@queer

Pakistan is going after TTP, and sheltering Afghan Taliban. Afghanistan is going after Afghan Taliban, sheltering TTP. You see only what you want to see, Monk paiyyan..

I see india raw cheif threatening Pakistan I see dead people.
I see you describing these order of indian raw some sort of global warming, which pakistan had coming
and could not be stopped.

I see bad rep is worst then being bad.
We had our thugs on run.. you have your thugs run the country.

[queer]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

no response to pakistan sheltering the haqqanis, Jaish e mohammad, laskhar e tayyeba?

live by the sword, die by the sword.

[Monk]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@queer

no response to pakistan sheltering the haqqanis, Jaish e mohammad, laskhar e tayyeba?

live by the sword, die by the sword.

so the divine order came ?

[PyariCgudia]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@Chaudhry_sahab

OMG thats why I am saying its ideology! The ideology that has been taught for 30 plus years. These 20 somethings are the product of same ideology, fed hate, fed killing, fed 72 hoorain all their lives. I grew up in Pakistan. Back in early 90s, we had maulvi come to our home to teach Quran. The maulvi taugh less Quran and more “Shia Kafir, Jihad Zindabad, Jihad this, Jihad that, India this India that”. Thats the ideology that have been fed by likes of Hamid Gul and GHQ’s to do their work whether in India, Afghanistan etc. This is doing of over 30 years of moral corruption of One institute that is above every law. So you can call these 20 something the problem of today but their ideology didnt just come.

Exactly. I can’t think of many maulvis in Pakistan who talk sense and know what they’re talking about.

There was a time when there was actual religious enlightenment in this country. This was the home of the Sufis. And look where we are now. We have fatwas coming from grand mufti of Saudi saying Chess is Haraam. I mean this is what these idiots think about.

The classical scholars … if only they were here to see this. They would all be having coronary attacks.

[queer]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

still no response, monk pai. answer the questions if you can.

[Monk]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@queer

still no response, monk pai. answer the questions if you can.

no.
You justified killing of children post 22.

[queer]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

no, you did. i said those who develop jihadis will often suffer at their hands. so stop training/retaining jihadis as assets.

i see you are avoiding answering the question again. shame.

[Monk]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

read though your posts.

[PyariCgudia]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

Monk, as much as I love Pakistan, look at the facts.

1. Lal Masjid Maulvi still sits there.

2. The one man who tried shutting down Lal Masjid is looking at treason penalty threats. He was arrested. His case is in court. That’s how we treat people trying to take OUT extremists.

3. Lal Masjid maulvi insults the memory of the children massacred in Peshawar by militants by justifying it religiously, and he is still sitting there untouched.

4. Musharraf tried reforming the madrassa system by having these guys all register their madrassas, and there was mass protest. He had to back down. Government could not enforce it’s writ.

5. LEJ and such groups still exist, just under different names. Their maulvi leaders - all untouched.

6. Whole world is looking for Waldo, er, Osama Bin Laden, and he’s sitting in Abottabad watching TV watching the world looking for him and … GETTING AWAY WITH INTERNATIONAL MASSACRES. All under protection of the military.

7. Funds for terror rolling into their hands, and the military is unable to put a stop to the arming of these militants. Arms are flowing through Karachi port - remember the news leak on 70 or 90 odd something shipping tankers filled with arms that somehow got deposited in Lyari then made their way out… and no registration on who got those arms? Shouldn’t that be worrying a military of a nuclear power that arms are being slipped in unregulated into the country?

8. I think your biggest tip off is that these groups are sitting in South Punjab unchecked. It’s not just a military thing. The Sharif brothers know about these groups and won’t touch them.
   Comon, a bunch of mullah thugs with that much clout? Sharif brothers will throw you into a furnace if you speak against them, but they cower in fear in front of a gang of bearded fools who think they can talk to God? (Most parts of the world, that would land you an admission into a psychiatry ward, in Pakistan, you get to run a political militant group).

[PyariCgudia]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

Oh and haha, let me also mention CII, a committee that has actually been told they no longer need to submit advisory reports to the National Assembly, but they continue to, because they’re dheets.

Their work is famous for justifying child marriage, and child rape. Mostly attacking women’s rights in the country. No one fires the guy running that committee that looks deranged by his face alone. Shakal se patha chalta hai, he is mentally ill.

[ReadMe]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@queer

no, you did. i said those who develop jihadis will often suffer at their hands. so stop training/retaining jihadis as assets.

i see you are avoiding answering the question again. shame.

You can take a horse to the water but you cannot make it drink.

To blame India for the terrorism that Pakistan is experiencing should be the biggest joke of the century. People rear a snake and expect the snake to bite the neighbor only and when indeed the snake bites the owner, these same guys blame the neighbor.

[Monk]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@queer

no, you did. i said those who develop jihadis will often suffer at their hands. so stop training/retaining jihadis as assets.

i see you are avoiding answering the question again. shame.

one again.
Its not pakistan was digging a hole and mountain over had to fall over pak.
ok you with me ?
its actually bunch of men in india giving order to pakistani children killed.

to be fair I give you chance.
Tell me when pakistan had indian schools attacked ??

Once you tell me I would have no further argument.

[Monk]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@ReadMe

You can take a horse to the water but you cannot make it drink.

To blame India for the terrorism that Pakistan is experiencing should be the biggest joke of the century. People rear a snake and expect the snake to bite the neighbor only and when indeed the snake bites the owner, these same guys blame the neighbor.

like " the biggest blunder of human history"
as altaf bhai said ?

[queer]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@Monk

one again.
Its not pakistan was digging a hole and mountain over had to fall over pak.
ok you with me ?
its actually bunch of men in india giving order to pakistani children killed.

to be fair I give you chance.
Tell me when pakistan had indian schools attacked ??

Once you tell me I would have no further argument.

you are a joke, dude. come back when you have an objective point of view instead of pakistani fox news. do you think the Lashkar e tayyeba killed armed combatants in mumbai attacks? the dead were all innocents. your jihadis have been killing innocents since a long time outside of pakistan, now they kill within pakistan as they get desperate and you want to blame india as if this is something new.

[Monk]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@queer

you are a joke, dude. come back when you have an objective point of view instead of pakistani fox news. do you think the Lashkar e tayyeba killed armed combatants in mumbai attacks? the dead were all innocents. your jihadis have been killing innocents since a long time outside of pakistan, now they kill within pakistan as they get desperate and you want to blame india as if this is something new.

so then you think because of that, its ok for your raw cheif to get pakistani kids slaughtered ?
right?
Blame ? your raw chief threatens pakistan. I say its bit more then blame.

[queer]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

you are claiming raw cooked etc. when its just your homegrown jihadis gone wild. god knows you guys have arrested and jailed tens of thousands of those in just the past 12 months. your jets bomb tribal areas every single day, when you claimed drone strikes that were less frequent lead to retaliation.

if anything, for the very first time pakistan is cooperating with india against the Jaish e mohammad, so why would raw do anything to jeopardize that?

[Monk]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@queer

you are claiming raw cooked etc. when its just your homegrown jihadis gone wild. god knows you guys have arrested and jailed tens of thousands of those in just the past 12 months. your jets bomb tribal areas every single day, when you claimed drone strikes that were less frequent lead to retaliation.

if anything, for the very first time pakistan is cooperating with india against the Jaish e mohammad, so why would raw do anything to jeopardize that?

I don’t know.
May some are just bullies there. Its not world does not have seen it.
Perhaps they think they control pak problem with force and keep pak unstable. its not world does not have seen that before.
Its some thing you should give us input about.

[queer]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

why dont you comment about pakistan maintaining various jihadi outfits and using it as assets against targets in afghanistan and pakistan? its that okay in your opinion?

also since you mentioned it a dozen times, can you point me towards RAW chiefs threat to Pakistan?

[hanibal]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

India have good experience in all this, in 1971, when they trained, financed and armef gorillas of Mukti Bahni, how many terrorists were sent there by Pakistan…
It is weakness and wrong defense strategy of Pakistan and highups, all Pakistan need is to support, Assam Freedom Movement, the Communists of Red Corridor, Sikhs and Kashmiries…these movement will bleed india to death…

No other way, no peace talks, no nothing, if we want to save our future we have to do this, because India enjoys killing in Pakistan and death of Pakistanies, thw Statement of Indian PM Modi is on record for that where he admitted his support for terrorists in 1971…

Stop requesting and begging…no one is going to listen…

[phoenixdesi]

Re: PM must ask India, Afghanistan to stop funding terrorism: Pervaiz Khattak

@PyariCgudia

Monk, as much as I love Pakistan, look at the facts.

1. Lal Masjid Maulvi still sits there.

2. The one man who tried shutting down Lal Masjid is looking at treason penalty threats. He was arrested. His case is in court. That’s how we treat people trying to take OUT extremists.

3. Lal Masjid maulvi insults the memory of the children massacred in Peshawar by militants by justifying it religiously, and he is still sitting there untouched.

4. Musharraf tried reforming the madrassa system by having these guys all register their madrassas, and there was mass protest. He had to back down. Government could not enforce it’s writ.

5. LEJ and such groups still exist, just under different names. Their maulvi leaders - all untouched.

6. Whole world is looking for Waldo, er, Osama Bin Laden, and he’s sitting in Abottabad watching TV watching the world looking for him and … GETTING AWAY WITH INTERNATIONAL MASSACRES. All under protection of the military.

7. Funds for terror rolling into their hands, and the military is unable to put a stop to the arming of these militants. Arms are flowing through Karachi port - remember the news leak on 70 or 90 odd something shipping tankers filled with arms that somehow got deposited in Lyari then made their way out… and no registration on who got those arms? Shouldn’t that be worrying a military of a nuclear power that arms are being slipped in unregulated into the country?

8. I think your biggest tip off is that these groups are sitting in South Punjab unchecked. It’s not just a military thing. The Sharif brothers know about these groups and won’t touch them.
   Comon, a bunch of mullah thugs with that much clout? Sharif brothers will throw you into a furnace if you speak against them, but they cower in fear in front of a gang of bearded fools who think they can talk to God? (Most parts of the world, that would land you an admission into a psychiatry ward, in Pakistan, you get to run a political militant group).

PCG, i know we differ on many things but you nailed it in this post…

I said it in a different post that we in pakistan are now beyond blame games and everyone in pakistan ( politicians, army, bureaucracy, public) is in this storm together, so i am not going to blame anyone but all of us shd ask above questions that PCG put together…

if we are dead serious about finishing terrorism, why is mumtaz qadri not hanged? why? it has been 5 years for god sake…

why can no one touch molana aziz of lal masjid? what are our agencies doing who can kill anyone?

what are our politicans doing about implementing NAP? why no madarassa has been reformed?

why was molana azhar free till now? why? and who knows what are we going to do with him now…he may be a national guest, all we know.

why do we allow pro-jihadists time on tv and in newspapers? why