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Please do not put in here wahabi fabrications. That bold comment was not made by Imam Bukhari raziAllahu 'anhu. Wahabis are fabricating comments into every book they deem to manipulate. This goes on in great detail all over the Islamic world. What is my evidence?

What matters is what the ruling in the Hanafi Madhab is.

Please refer to the site

www.sunnipath.com (gives all the rulings on Istighatha based on the Hanafi Madhab, a form of Tawassul)

The Sunnah is preserved in the 4 madhabs. Outside them is all bid’ah.

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The bold comment WAS MADE by Imam Bukhari. The reason why it is in brackets is because they were not the words of the Prophet.

Wonderful, now we have these goofy soofys doubting the Bukhari too.

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Sharaabi bro: I totally believe in that hadeeth; however, one question popped up in mind:

Tawassul-e-Rasool:saw: is widely used by Ahnaaf and have seen Shafai doing the same. what is the definition of Absent prophet in that context?

just a question. also soofy goofy stuff might not be presented correctly to you, but it does not warrant a name calling IMHO :slight_smile:

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To a wahabi, everything is shirk…

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assalamu 'alaikum

Let me reiterate for the benefit of my bros/sis'

That bold comment was not made by Syedina Imam al-Bukhari raziAllahu 'anhu

It was made by a wahabi while they print edited versions of Bukhari Shareef in millions (with their illegal comments put into it)

your bro

Thaqib

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In general, if the pir has a 1-800 number, avoid them like the plague.

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[quote=“Sharaabi”]
The bold comment WAS MADE by Imam Bukhari. The reason why it is in brackets is because they were not the words of the Prophet.

[QUOTE]

You think so? Here’s another from http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/056.sbt.html, on the very same page you’ll see the Hadith you have:

*Volume 4, Book 56, Number 677: *

Narrated Abu Huraira: Once Allah’s Apostle; offered the morning prayer and then faced the people and said, "While a man was driving a cow, he suddenly rode over it and beat it. The cow said, “We have not been created for this, but we have been created for sloughing.” On that the people said astonishingly, “Glorified be Allah! A cow speaks!” The Prophet said, "I believe this, and Abu Bakr and 'Umar too, believe it, although neither of them was present there. While a person was amongst his sheep, a wolf attacked and took one of the sheep. The man chased the wolf till he saved it from the wolf, where upon the wolf said, 'You have saved it from me; but who will guard it on the day of the wild beasts when there will be no shepherd to guard them except me (because of riots and afflictions)? ’ " The people said surprisingly, “Glorified be Allah! A wolf speaks!” The Prophet said, “But I believe this, and Abu Bakr and 'Umar too, believe this, although neither of them was present there.” (See the Foot-note of page No. 10 Vol.5)

So, did Imam Bukhari use footnotes too?

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^ aah the emotions you were riding on when posting. Proof my brother, proof. An argument demands proofs.

Some of Imam Shafe’i’s quotes:

“If you see me saying something, and contrary to it is authentically-reported from the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam), then know that my intelligence has departed.”

(Ibn Abi Haatim in al-Aadaab (p. 93), Abul Qaasim Samarqandi in al-Amaali, as in the selection from it by Abu Hafs al- Mu’addab (234/1), Abu Nu’aim (9/106) & Ibn 'Asaakir (15/10/1) with a saheeh sanad. )

“The Muslims are unanimously agreed that if a sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) is made clear to someone, it is not permitted for him to leave it for the saying of anyone else.”

(Ibn al-Qayyim (2/361) & Fulaani (p. 68))

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Typical salafi answer. No Offence sharabi.:)

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Wot's shirk?

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The burden of proof is on those who make the claim. You claim that the comments in paranethes were of Imam Bukhari, and not of M. Mushin Khan, the translator.

The lesson is: careful of how you read translations. That’s two mistakes on this thread so far.

For the record, I agree with Mushin Khan and yourself on this particular issue…

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^ no need to get worked up. That was meant for Thaqib's post, not yours.

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Questioning the teacher is very much frowned upon from Deoband to Al-Azhar…there is a very strict protocol in place, and the only kinds of questions allowed are for clarification, not for questioning concepts.

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Ahh…use the quote feature dude…it works! :slight_smile:

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of course it does :)

Well, who follows the exact way of Mohammad (sas) anyways. From the Deobandies in the subcontinent to the talafees in Arabia, everyones lacking one thing or the other.

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Al-Azhar Shareef follows the 4 madhabs.

Deoband follows the Hanafi Madhab.

The ruling in the Hanafi Madhab is that Tawassul in the form of Istighatha (asking directly from Awliya Allah) is jaiz or allowed.

Please refer to Maulana Anwar Shah Kashmiri for those who follow Deoband.

For others, mentioning Al-Azhar Sharif, please refer to Shaykh 'Ali al-Juma'a HafizuhAllah ta'ala

For those in Pakistan, you can refer to Mufti Munib ur ReHman, Maulana Shah Turab al Haq Qadiri HafizuhuAllah ta'ala, Da'wate Islami, inshaAllah 'azza wa jalla

Deobandis in Pakistan can refer to Mufti Taqi Uthmani on this issue.

your bro

Thaqib