^ As much as we might complain, I guess it's scary for many people to go against something "natural." The theory being that if God wanted us to keep all the rozay, He would make it so that we didn't menstruate in Ramzan. It's different if there are medical reasons for taking it continuously.
^ i agree.. thats what i left out of my post :) hehe... Allah Mian has allowed females to take a week off (or however many days).. why go against it? its different for hajj/umra i guess though...
^ similarly, Allah Miyaan has allowed millions to get diabetes, so why inject insulin in those ppl? aren't u interfering with something 'natural' here as well
^ but that's a disease. You are SUPPOSED to get treatment for any disease, to hide it is a sin. Periods are not a disease. They are something natural when a woman's body clenses itself. Taking pills will be wrong because you WILL be going against something natural because in old days (when Islam started), women didn't have any pills and they skipped a few rozey.
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Periods are not a disease. They are something natural when a woman's body clenses itself.
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well, it need not be clensing per se. Suppose there wasn't anything like a period, the body wudn't undergo any harm cuz of that. So the argument that the period is necessary for clensing doesn't hold.
furthermore, my suggestion is to only use it for one cycle....not the rest of ur life
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Taking pills will be wrong because you WILL be going against something natural because in old days (when Islam started), women didn't have any pills and they skipped a few rozey.
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the argument comparing things with the old days doesn't hold in this case either......in the old days ppl didn't have PCs, but nowadays everyone uses them. Similarly, in the old days they didn't have pills, but now they do...
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well, it need not be clensing per se. Suppose there wasn't anything like a period, the body wudn't undergo any harm cuz of that. So the argument that the period is necessary for clensing doesn't hold.
furthermore, my suggestion is to only use it for one cycle....not the rest of ur life
But you are still going againts nature, in my opinion, even though it's only once, not for the whole life.
the argument comparing things with the old days doesn't hold in this case either......in the old days ppl didn't have PCs, but nowadays everyone uses them. Similarly, in the old days they didn't have pills, but now they do...
PCs don't have much to do with religion and modern life. You are comparing apples and bananas. People used to read Quran 1400+ years ago, we read the SAME quran today, NOT ONE WORD has changed. People used to pray bare foot on the floor of masjid in old days, now we have sofas and beds and all the luxeries, do we sit (wearing shoes) and pray now? No. Some things are meant to stay the same. I am not going to get into the religious aspect of it, may be someone better than me (who has more knowledge in religion) can provide a better answer to it.
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Nescio, if you miss your period, it can cause mega cramps and bloating. Who needs that? There might not be any major risks, but I wouldn't want to take any medication to stop it.
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**PCs don't have much to do with religion and modern life. You are comparing apples and bananas.* People used to read Quran 1400+ years ago, we read the SAME quran today, NOT ONE WORD has changed. People used to pray bare foot on the floor of masjid in old days, now we have sofas and beds and all the luxeries, do we sit (wearing shoes) and pray now? No. Some things are meant to stay the same
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so what have pills to do with religion?
mehnaz: if u take the pills on the right time then there won't be any cramps.....so no need to worry bout that
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so what have pills to do with religion?
mehnaz: if u take the pills on the right time then there won't be any cramps.....so no need to worry bout that
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Let me repeat myself: Pills have something do with religion because they go against the system of Allah. Your diabetes example won't work because NOT EVERYONE has diabetes, only some people have it and it's a disease, not something that's natural and Allah has given to everyone. While on the other hand, EVERY woman has periods (except old women who have reached the age of menopause), there are no exceptions. Taking a pill just to delay your periods so that one can fast with everyone else and doesn't have to do it later by herself does not sound too appealing to me (once again, I'll leave the religious fatwas out of this because I don't know what their stance is on this) but in my opinion, it's wrong because you are going against nature. If Allah wanted women to stop their period, I am sure in old days there would be some kind of herbes that could stop the mensturation.
Your PC example is just........not relevant to this topic because I've answered that one with even rich people going to the mosque and standing among poor with bare feet. Another example I gave you was of Quran. Like I said, some things are not meant to change and it's just not right to do them.
I don't think the ladies here are liking the idea of the pills. They still want to get up and have good time with their families at the breakfast table even if they have to fake it that they are fasting.
When you take the pill especially for the first time you get severe nausea, which if you want to avoid throwing up you have to eat something. The nausea, mood swings, and the weight gain is not worth it, you can always make up the roza you miss.
I would never take the pill to stop the cycle...its something natural and supposed to happen on time. I aleardy get bad mood swings and nausea during my periods...wouldn't want more of those and any other side affects :(
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Let me repeat myself: Pills have something do with religion because they go against the system of Allah. Your diabetes example won't work because NOT EVERYONE has diabetes, only some people have it and it's a disease, not something that's natural and Allah has given to everyone. While on the other hand, EVERY woman has periods (except old women who have reached the age of menopause), there are no exceptions. Taking a pill just to delay your periods so that one can fast with everyone else and doesn't have to do it later by herself does not sound too appealing to me (once again, I'll leave the religious fatwas out of this because I don't know what their stance is on this) but in my opinion, it's wrong because you are going against nature.
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first of all, ur assumption that every woman gets (regular) periods without exception isn't true. You'd be surprised how often cycledisorders occur....yet you can't say all these women are diseased?
Secondly, trying to draw distinction between what is normal/natural and what is disease (and thus required treatment) isn't based on any grounds, cuz the very distinction is illusive and doesn't exist in nature. What might be diabetic for one person doesn't have to be for someone else. similarly periods can't be put into normal and abnormal
oh bloody hell. we get a week break in the whole month, and you’re suggesting to take that away?
we give birth. at least let us have this allowance.
hmph.
Nes,
You're right -- "disease" is a sort of relative term. But I think that unless there's an issue of health/survival I wouldn't change my cycle. The fact that there has been an allowance made suggests that there's no need to alter the menstrual cycle in order to fast all 29/30 days. But I wouldn't tell a woman that she is doing something "wrong" if she does use the pill to fast for the entire time. I don't think it's that simple. It's more a matter of personal preference. I'm pro-choice :D.
PS -- I read at some point an article in which a professor of Islam expressed some doubt about the textual support for women being forbidden to pray/fast during their periods. But that's a separate thread.
hmm this thread is going the wrong way?
i dont think taking the pill really has anything to do with bad mood swings or getting bloated.. lets face is, we feel bloated about 2 min after having iftari.. and the bad mood swings, well if u havent eaten all day… ofcourse ur gonna get a bit snappy..
for me, i prefer the lil break inbetween roze.. its no big deal, u can make them up in winter neways… :k:
Nescio, ur right.. it has nothing to do with what people did when Islam first came into practice.. as Sahar said, its personal choice.. and judging from teh girls on here, i think most of us appreciate the break we get 
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first of all, ur assumption that every woman gets (regular) periods without exception isn't true. You'd be surprised how often cycledisorders occur....yet you can't say all these women are diseased?
Secondly, trying to draw distinction between what is normal/natural and what is disease (and thus required treatment) isn't based on any grounds, cuz the very distinction is illusive and doesn't exist in nature. What might be diabetic for one person doesn't have to be for someone else. similarly periods can't be put into normal and abnormal
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If I didn't include cycledisorders, I am sure you understood from my post what I meant to say. What I meant to say is: this is something natural (forget old women, forget disorders or anything abnormal), this is something natural and one shouldn't stop it unless there are any medical justifications provided. That's my opinion. You can keep saying whatever you want because you are entitled to have your opinion on it, but that wouldn't change my view on it :-)
Besides, like I said before, the ladies seem to be okay the way they are, majority of them does not want to change anything. Now don't assume that I am trying to say that you are forcing them to take the pill :p
^ its funny that you're arguing the side that you're arguing on. Why do you care? You dont have a period.
Period!
oh hush, ramadan is all about the corny jokes
^ too many periods you got there PCG 
Yeah, ramadan is all about corny jokes and posting pictures, innit 