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Should sale the damn thing to Chinese.
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emirates is not a good airline either. we've travelled hundreds of times on it from manchester to karachi and in the beginning it was wonderful, flights on time, no delays, lovely air hostesses, etc etc. but last year they took the pi*. me and ma mum landed in dubai to catch a connecting flight to karachi @ 1am and the flight was not expected to leave till 1.30am so that gave us half an hour to run through the airport and the find our departure gate.
when we land and we get to the 'connecting flights' counter the chinese woman with very bad english told me it had already taken off and that the captain was not willing to wait anymore. i mean it wasnt our fault that the flight was delayed from manchester, usually they delay flights to get everyone on board but this time, they went without us. i told her i want to speak to someone associated from emirates, so she sent us to sum arab man, and he told me the same and i shouted @ him like i was drugged. i was jet-lagged like f*k but i didnt care, i had enough energy in me to have an argument.
they then told us we have to wait till 8 in the mornin for the next flight, they didnt put us up in a hotel, ask us how we were, nothing.
arghhhhhh, now i've decided if am going to go to pakistan, am going to walk it.
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PIA, and may othr govt departments were in much better shape during the BB/NS govts, same with KESC, Pak Steel Mills, etc.
Says a lot about how bad this govt is
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Should sale the damn thing to Chinese.
Why Chinese are in junk business?
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Why Chinese are in junk business?
They need lots of metal these days.
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Why Chinese are in junk business?
If not Chinese then UAE....
Sell 51% stake of PIA to UAE and let them manage it. They will hire French or German to run the airlines. I think that is the only way to get rid of the corrupted PIA management. Privatize the PIA and let other comany manage it because of the corruption in government and PIA destroyed a good Airline, losing money, buying old six Boeing 747-300 aircraft from Hong Kong-based Cathay Pacific Airways when they should have invested in new planes
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The EU's concerns focus on maintenance problems and old PIA aircrafts, specifically Boeing 747s and Airbus 310s.
The state-run airline was warned last year that most of its planes failed to meet international standards, although it said the EU's decision had come as a surprise.
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UAE has money to invest and they can re-structure the management to make PIA a profitable company.
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If not Chinese then UAE....
Sell 51% stake of PIA to UAE and let them manage it. They will hire French or German to run the airlines. I think that is the only way to get rid of the corrupted PIA management. UAE has money to invest and they can re-structure the management to make PIA a profitable company.
But will they actually allow it to expand outwards to Far East, Far West.
Won't they be tempted to just use it as a hopper to get traffic to UAE and force people to use Emirates for longer trips?
I say Pakistan keep 51%, that way it remains the biggest stock holder, and the airline stays a National Asset.
Re: PIA in really bad shape
If not Chinese then UAE....
Sell 51% stake of PIA to UAE and let them manage it. They will hire French or German to run the airlines. I think that is the only way to get rid of the corrupted PIA management. UAE has money to invest and they can re-structure the management to make PIA a profitable company.
Why French or German? Even Pakistanis can turn it into profitable business, just privatize parts or whole of PIA... there are many institutions which turned profitable when handed over to private groups.
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Turbulence in PIA
1/15/2008 Pakistanʼs national airline, PIA, is facing serious turbulence, not in the skies, but in its boardroom where the 2008 budget has been presented by the chairman giving bad news to the directors for the new year. Our report quoted the chairman extensively and gave views of several experts and analysts pointing at the grave failures of successive managements in the past several years. The airline is losing Rs40 million per day, Rs1.8 million per hour, snowballing the losses to an astounding Rs55 billion or more, despite generous handouts of billions extracted by politically-appointed, non-aviation executives, one a shoe-maker, another a fuel distributor and the third a fertilizer producer. How these corporate whizzkids qualified to become PIA heads is a mystery. The experiment of placing friends, who had no experience of running an airline at highly demanding corporate positions, has not paid any dividend. In fact it has cost the nation and the taxpayers a bundle with no hope of a quick turn around unless many more billions are pumped into the airline.
Surprisingly the Board of Directors of the airline, which met on Monday, also has no aviation experts or airline wizards to guide the failed management. But some immediate steps have to be taken if the national flag carrier has to stop throwing good money after the lost billions. Our report pointed out that for many years the second tier of senior managers has not changed and most of them are misfits in their jobs, a computer guy running the kitchen or marketing, a flight engineer made incharge of everything as deputy managing director and so on. Obviously this second tier has survived at least three managing directors and chief executives and since all three were non-aviation persons, these managers were guiding and driving them. They would never admit to their past mistakes, lest they were held accountable. As a starter this entire failed lot has to go in one sweeping reshuffle. May be the PIA board cannot do much but the prime minister or the president have to step in, and quickly, if PIA has to be stopped from nose diving into bankruptcy.
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They would never admit to their past mistakes, lest they were held accountable. As a starter this entire failed lot has to go in one sweeping reshuffle. May be the PIA board cannot do much but the prime minister or the president have to step in, and quickly, if PIA has to be stopped from nose diving into bankruptcy.
You know what that may not be a bad idea. We should let this white elephant die b/c its simply not worth keeping and pumping billions in it. Our entire education budget is Rs. 32 billion while were spending Rs. 55 billion on a bankrupt airline to keep it going. I say if govt can't sale it...it should be liquidated, and open aviation industry and let the free market decide.
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There were some paki politicians on the PIA's plane (from Heathrow to Lahore in 2004)and they were smoking and drinking and dancing everywhere like pigs and monkeys.
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There were some paki politicians on the PIA's plane (from Heathrow to Lahore in 2004)and they were smoking and drinking and dancing everywhere like pigs and monkeys.
Hmmm! Much to the frustration of the people who use PIA only because of halal food and free from alcohal environment.
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There were some paki politicians on the PIA's plane (from Heathrow to Lahore in 2004)and they were smoking and drinking and dancing everywhere like pigs and monkeys.
Smoking?!? I thought there is a general smoking restriction on any airline now.
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Smoking?!? I thought there is a general smoking restriction on any airline now.
HELLO....we are talking about PIA.
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LIARS
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I hope it collapses and they face international humiliation.
Inshallah.
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I hope it collapses and they face international humiliation.
Inshallah.
What? What collapses?
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HELLO....we are talking about PIA.
So what!? I had included PIA into lot.
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The company needs to collapse. If it collapses then hopefully that will lead to shame, and shame is something South Asians avoid. Next time they will manage better.