PIA flight operations across country wind down as employees killed in Karachi clash

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Sharif family was about Reforming PIA through doing this and that before the elections, three years in the government, what measures have they taken to Reform the PIA? Now suddenly overnight they want to privatise PIA without anyone having a clue about what's going on. When you have a parliament, why do still need to use the 'drawing rooms' to make decision?

If these Sharif brothers and PMLN cannot even make an attempt at reforming PIA in three years, how can they run the country? The PIA is basically just an extended reflection of the mess your whole country is, and PMLN has proved it that they have no vision to help Pakistan.

And no, PIA was nit given 6 months. One minister was saying privatization has been suspended, and the others were saying, nope we are continuing with it. Exactly the type of lying, flip flopping, withholding of information and secrecy that made CPEC controversial after an excellent all round start.

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World’s Most Overstaffed Airline Can’t Find Stranded Passengers - Bloomberg Business

The world’s least productive airline has lost track of passengers that may be stranded anywhere from New York to Beijing.
Workers at Pakistan International Airlines Corp. have been on strike over the past week, prompting the national carrier to cancel more than 200 flights. Each of its 15,000 full-time employees earns the airline 61,000 rupees a year ($584), the lowest among 72 listed peers tracked by Bloomberg – making it the world’s most overstaffed by this measure.

“We have no data available on how many and where passengers with confirmed PIA tickets are waiting, because the entire system is shut, servers are down and no booking is being done,” spokesman Danyal Gilani said by phone. The airline, known as PIA, flies regularly to overseas destinations, including Toronto, Birmingham and Riyadh…

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thx for an informative and mature post. very helpful

but in the end, i still believe PIA needs to be privatized so that Pakistanis can travel with some peace of mind. As long as it stays with the govt, there will always be probability for it to fall to new lows depending which party is ruling the country. So yes, you may fix it today under govt rule but who knows what will happen tomorrow when a new govt comes...so privatize it but do it in an open, transparent and mature way

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Meaning, run it like a private enterprise? right?

This is exactly what the 'protesters' don't want. I've seen palace of a lowly purchasing manager of PIA in Lahore. I am sure he won't be willing to leave his current lavish lifestyle and actually 'work' for another organization.

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All private businesses created nai doltiay are illegitimate progeny of dictators or corrupt politicians including N$. They pay dick taxes to government because so called motebar Pakis in Pakistan follow the mantra of "Money Talks Bullsh!t Walks."

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Whether opposition parties like it or not, PIA is over. No more subsidy here. Its either a new airline in 120 days or these people need to get to work. No if then but about it! As of this morning, Pilots saw the writing on the wall and they are back to work. They are of higher intelligence so they have seen its Over for them and they have to perform to be retained. For all the pseudo intellacts here, what you say about the striking group already broken now. Govt is actually playing very nicely and their strategy is working. In my personal opinion, regardless of whether PIA is privatized or not, 19000 strong workforce need to be cut down to half. Govt should give clear choices to these people some thing like take this or take nothing. I have no respect or sympathy with Strikers period. Give them 2 days notice to show up, if they dont, nothing for them, create new airline, enough people are available for work.

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Little or partial success to the Government side
One PIA Boing 777 left Pindi airport & another is also leaving for Jedda with all PIA staff

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bas ganjas are here to sell the country off, shayad 2018 tak sab bik jaiga phir pata nai kya baichaingay, shayad aqam ko baich dega ishaq dollar.

fauj pe bhi price lagado isko bhi baich de ganja league, kya faida jab kuch ker hee nai saktay har roz dhamakon mein merr rahay hain amm loag

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agreed...it is critical that govt does not show weakness against this blackmailing. PIA cannot run like this. but i am sure there are many hard working folks in pia. somehow govt needs to separate them from these blackmailing looters. fire these looters, let those hard working folks come back to work and then slowly but gradually privatize PIA. railway, steel mill shd be privatized as well. but all of this shd be done in an open and transparent way.

opposition parties are playing politics here. what is PTI stand? they need to come clean. do they support PIA privatization in principle or not

PPP has no agenda left.

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But then the privatization list would grow pretty long. And that may be the answer to securing IMF loans, but not the answer to Pakistan's progress. Arguments can be made against it from different angles.
If Railways can be turned around, why not PIA?
And on the flip side, if they can willingly endure a Rs. 2 billion subsidy on Lahore metro, and another 2 billion on Pindi metro, why cant they subsidize PIA to an extent till it gets back on its feet?

Stuff like this is the side effect of political appointments, a crime which both PPP and PMLN are guilty of. And the blowback of this is something these parties will have to bear. And from what I can see, PMLN is not willing to take the fall here, which is why they want to sell it off.
PMLN should shelve privatization plans, and offer gold handshakes. Im sure plenty will take it. That will give the govt leverage to bring in a truly independent board (that is, if they are truly interested in doing that).

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The only people who would take golden handshake would be the competent ones confident enough to find employment elsewhere.This will leave you with blood sucking political appointees.

It's is not government's business to run airlines and railroads. They should be regulators, not business managers.

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The only people who would take golden handshake would be the competent ones confident enough to find employment elsewhere.This will leave you with blood sucking political appointees.

It's is not government's business to run airlines and railroads. They should be regulators, not business managers.

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I am and many of competent colleagues an example of this. Availed VSS from PTCL after 13 years of service in 1998.

But the new management from UAE created an atmosphere of harassment for all employees whether good and bad and still doing the same.

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Check the news now, Govt is winning! Govt has made a strong point and all of you are saying is as usual Lies. There are more planes in fleet than before, PIA is now at a point whree it can be privatized. This is a great victory for Govt. Privatization is happening whether some one likes it or not. Look how the strikers are now divided, Pilots came back because they have seen writing on the wall. Govt is not BSing.

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PM must not negotiate with any of those on Strike. Must make an statement. There are enough people who need jobs. Get these people a lesson they wont forget.

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Better to use rangers & others against them
Few thousand killed and few thousand included in missing persons can solve the issue more easily

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It's good to see the flight resumed. Things should not reach the critical point of complete shutdown because it hurts the airline's reputation, and passengers who have already paid the airfare, and planned their time around the flight date/time.

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Infraction points issued for using inappropriate language. It is ok to have political differences but that does not mean you can use whatever language you want to.

and yes, you cannot abuse political leaders either.

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