Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

ok..maybe my this post will alienate many so called Pakistan lovers but I am also a Pakistani lover and its my duty to warn Pak army and Pakistanis what is coming their way

lets see..trump has taken the oath and his No 1 priority is to root out Islamic terrorism from this planet. great and more power to him if he can do this in a meaningful way and go after ISIS and other cancerous terrorist elements instead of innocent folks

but like it not, the fact is that a lot of radical Islamic terrorism is rooted in the middle east, Pakistan and Afghanistan. forget middle east but are we not concerned about Pakistan?

our army will keep on denying but we all know we support and shelter many bad elements. Osama bin laden was protected by us. mullah Omar was saved by ISI in Karachi and died in Karachi. mullah Mansoor was living in Quetta with his family for years. and even today, all of Haqqani leadership is sitting in Quetta. Similarly, LeT which is declared a terrorist organization by UN is fully functional in Pakistan. hafiz saeed and lakhvi are openly creating problems for Pakistan

I am afraid that Trump is a very different president and he will order usa airforce to openly cross Pakistan borders and attack Quetta and Fata to kill Haqqani leadership whenever needed. He is not going to sit quiet. Can we stop Americans? No. so, who will be responsible for this utter embarrassment? you may think it will never happen but I can see it coming. Trust me, Trump will drone hafiz saeed and lakhvi as well.

Are we going to change ourselves or are we going to continue old rotten policies of 80s?

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

Interesting thread PD. Wise nations do make a pro-active plan.

But here I cant wait to see the comments of those who were celebrating Trump’s success and Clinton’s defeat :slight_smile:

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

there will be zero pro-activeness. pakistanis will keep on living under a self-proclaimed assumption that trump is somehow pro-pakistan until trump will come screw us big time just like Americans embarrassed us by killing osama bin laden (and rightly so).

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Thing is, Modi in India and Trump in USA portray real dangerous picture for Pakistan and anyone US wants to take out…

Good thing though, Pakistam has been working with Russia and China…so is Turkey, but dont take them as a guarntee, Syria, Libya, Iraq all were good friends with Russia when they were totally destroyed…

Pakistan and Turkey could be the targets here…how things going to unfold, no body knows but US have got most unstable man in white-house and very hard to see anything good coming out of this.

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

you’ve got to remember that alqaeda, isil, isis, daesh are all creation of usa, not of pakistan. And they’re the ones funding all these madrassahs and religious parties to use them against the state and to spread chaos. Read the book “Confessions of an economic hitman” by Bob Woodward.
Just because these are in pakistan and they live there, it doesn’t mean they’re the root cause and tht we get attacked by usa.
You’ve got to see the proxy wars and their affects/causes.

if govt of pakistan and its military was really concerned, they’d get the **** done that they need to do. Give people jobs, health, education, justice and make your people literate and progressive. Fix your damn country first rather than doing corruption and making your own mills and businesses in dubai, london, usa, switzerland, paris, etc. But no, they’d rather do nothing. They don’t do anything. Everything is a mess from hospitals, schools, universities, education, railways, roadways, airlines. Nobody wants to come invest, nobody cares.
But these stupid people keep expecting oh lets tell about kashmir cause to america, UN, etc. What these dumb rulers of pak don’t see is that nobody else gives an eff about all this. They all care about their vested interests and they have now installed these puppets in pakistan to rule over illiterate jahil masses in the sham of “jamhoriyat”.
If these people were really caring or cared about the country and people, they would have worked tirelessly on making the country great first and not their personal accounts and empires.

i dont see any change happening soon, even cpec won’t do much other than line pockets of rich politicians and businessmen. The general population will not see anything.

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

Second day in office, first drone strike. Blame Obama.

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

how convenient…just blame everything on the US.

did US create hafiz saeeed, molana masood azhar, zaki ur rehman lakhavi, and LET and jamat dawa?

did US protect Osama bin laden few miles from kakool academy in Abbottabad for 6 years?

did US shelter and protect taliban leadership for years… such as mullah Omar, mullah mansoor and all of haqanni leadership?

did US send terrorists from Pakistan to murder hundreds of innocents Indians in Mumbai and which put Pakistan in such big trouble?

Allah say daro sir jee…yes US has committed thousands of crimes but accept our own mistakes as well. Trump is not going to sit back, hand over 1.5 billion dollar every year and then let us play double games easily. this man is a businessman to its core. if there is a problem per his perception, he will fix it and i am telling ya all that we ain’t gonna like the way he fixes the stuff!

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

Drone attacks was already there during Obama and Bush time

Both Nawaz and Trump are businessman first then President/Prime Minister

Don’t think much changes aside from financially/economically

Not that dumb to take panga with a nuclear weapon country directly

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

Man this PD needs treatment from Dr. Amir Liaqat.

I bet that he has indian friends and can say 150% that his IP is from Israel.

If you were a patriot, you would have learned a thing or two from multani panchi on how to “promote” Pakistan. always bad words and then put a disclaimer at the end

TSk tsk..

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

yae multanni panchi kon hai?

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

drone attacks are fine. i am not talking about drone attacks. i am talking about actual real surgical strikes using US air force or quick commando type operatrions similar to bin laden type where they will cross our border and will embarrass us worldwide

and by the way, when the US did bin laden surgical strike, Pak was a nuclear weapon power, what did we do? Nothing

when the US attacked salalla post and killed our 30 soldiers, pak was still a nuclear power, what did we do? Nothing militarily except closing nato supplies

when US conducted hundreds of drone attacks, we were still a nuclear power, what did we do? Nothing

so lets not live in dreams that we are a nuclear power and US will not cross the limit. This man Trump is different. if he can stand against his own powerful agencies including CIA and call them the liar, corrupt, lazy and incompetent, he can certainly do serious stuff against us if he is convinced we are double crossing.

Maybe he will do nothing but I am just saying we need to be pro-active instead of embarrassing ourselves big time in front of the whole world. Lets put our house in order

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

Aik he to hay jo har waqt post karta hai kay PML-n is winning 2018 elections with his cpec pics.

I thought that I would give a shout out to Multan considering pind, takht-e-lahore are name dropped so often.

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

I hope he will do this and clean the country from these ugly so called jehadis.

Re: Phir na kehna, bataya nahin tha

oh you mean desert bird aka sahrai panchiee