There is a road and alongside are fruit trees only those fruits that fall on the road may be eaten but not those that are yet to fall. Walk along the path to get to your destination and feel free to enjoy those fallen fruits for your journey.
What if there are ripe fruits on tree but not fallen yet?
Would you not try to shake the tree or climb the tree?
Will that be a sin?
What I mean is struggling for something of needs is also Sawab!
Being happy is our God-gifted need.
The condition of permissibility addresses the need not the purpose.
Even though this looked a great statement but it has one flaw. the word need being considered as bad or at lower level than word purpose.
I have heard this kind of statements from religious people so many times and never could really understand why people try to make it this way.
What I have been proposing is having purpose and need at same equal importance can be possible. And need was not condemned or degraded even by almighty.
Example 1: It should be our need and purpose to love and care our children.
Both important equally.
Example 2: **Its saying like........ No no, I don't want to be happy since its only my **need. And 'need' what a bad thing to have. Disgusting! Why should a man have needs, he should just have the purpose!
Now that is defeating the Allah's wish. he wanted us to worship while keeping our needs and desires. Otherwise angels were enough. (I have said this above somewhere)
Example 3: **I would rather work at my job for late hours, clean the office day and night, even paint the walls in whatever free time I get, and serve my boss regardless what boss has told me to do. I just enjoy doing that. I love it when boss walks in the office clean and freshly painted everyday. Why should I leave office for even a few minutes, perhaps boss will be **angry **with me. Because I am sure my boss is really an **angry man inside. Only reason he keeps me around because he is **so mercifull **as well!!!!!! Isn't this a proof that I have a job that he is soooo kind?
Now, Boss never wants the worker to be a 'extra hard' worker. He wants his recognition, being thankful, following the office rules, keeping the sanity around, be regular, enjoy other good activities, obey the laws, making good relation with others etc. etc.
I am going to say something here a bit powerful below to ponder:
"It is just as bad and blasphemous as not recognizing Allah at all, as to consider Allah being without mercy and being full of vengeance by default. *Or Consider him as a 'needy person' to ask every creation to have just one goal: His worship....."
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Now what these buzurg or pir or sufi create in the mind of people is as if Allah by default is full of anger and and only reason he will give us the heaven is due to his other quality as being gracious and kind.
Also, they are wrong to say that, unless we minimize our needs (or stop being human), Allah will place us in hellfire. They think only purpose for human is to just worship and that is the goal....
No. It is worshiping **with **keeping the needs and enjoying **both **at the same time.
Angels need to worship Allah (SWT) as their sustenance
No. They do not have needs. They either worship or just follow orders.
Humans have been given respite for a while on the Earth where we can choose to indulge in that what is permissible or not permissible or choose to excel towards what Allah (SWT) has not even made a need for us to do whilst on this Earth, but** set it as our purpose. Worship **...
Unlike angels we can live this life without ever worshipping, and we may take great pleasure in doing that.
Again I never argued in favor of being 'indulged' that we forget Allah!
The meaning and level of excel has taken too far by some people to extreme which is not even the wish of Allah as far as my humble understanding.
Remember Shaitan makes us to haram, if he cannot do this he pushes us towards reprehensible things, if he cannot do this he lures to do neutral acts, if he cannot do that he will make us choose the lesser of two good deeds. To make the permissible things a goal in life when our true goals are something else is a trick - a trick played by the Shayateen of the world and the name of this trick is hedonism.
Anything which makes you forget Allah's presence or worship can be considered bad but with enjoying what is provided one can still remember, being thanful Allah or worship. Yes it is possible unlike these 'sufis' say.
We should not confuse the fruit given to encourages us as the purpose for us. Our purpose can only be our destination.
No sir. Like I said, both are important otherwise it defeats the purpose of being created in the first place. Yes the purpose of being created was to test us with keeping our needs as well.
Off course not be forgetful of Allah by being 'indulged' in our needs. I have said this over and over again throughout this thread.
By the way you say that Angels are like robots ... did you know that Angels too choose?
I am open to your thoughts on it and gave you mine above. :-)