PERMISSIBILITY OF URS

PERMISSIBILITY OF URS

The Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) commanded us, ?I had stopped you from visiting graves. You should now visit the graves, as it keeps you away from the world and reminds you of the hereafter.? (Ibn Majah Page 113)

Even this command of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is an open command, since it is not specific. Thus, if we decide to go to the Mazaar of any Saint to make Ziyaarah during any day in the year, then this will be a part? of the said command, and will be a means of reward and blessing. This is what the Urs really is, that we appoint a certain day, to gather at the Mazaar of a Saint, where we make Esaal-e-Sawaab and make dua through his mediation. Imam Abu Bakr bin Shaiba narrates the following Hadith, ?The Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) used to visit the Mazaars of the Martyres of Uhud, at the beginning of every year.? (Radul Muhtar Vol 1 ? page 604)

These people try to confuse the unwary public, by saying that these actions were not from amongst the practices of the early days, thus making it Haraam and Bid?at. The answer? to this has already been stated earlier in this book, but is being repeated for the benefit of those who did not see this. The method of preparing the syllabus for their Madrassahs, teaching the books such as Qaaida Baghdadi and Bukhari etc, specifying days for examination, passing or failing students, holding conferences and huge functions etc. were not practices of the early days. Even the Bukhari that we teach, was not written then in the way that it is written today, with volumes, chapters, footnotes, sections etc. Are all these not amongst the practices that were not in the early days? Then why only is their objection that which we do? The opposition should answer this, and then we will present our answer.

One so called logical point of Janaab Gangohi Saab is being quoted, where he says, that ?Introduction of something new in religion is Haraam and bid?at, and introducing something which is from or with Deen is permissible and desirable.? This statement of Gangohi is totally contrary to the Hadith of Sahih. It is narrated on the authority of Hazrat Jareer bin Abdullah (radi Allahu anhu), that the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said, ?Any person who innovates some good practice in Islam, will be rewarded for this, and he will also be equivalently rewarded for all those who acted on this after him, and there will be no shortage in his reward and if any person innovated some evil practice in religion, then he will be sinful for this, and he will be equally sinful for all those who acted upon this after this, and there will be no shortage in his sin.?

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Please state the source of the article, or I'll have to lock it down.

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So, you and this writer mean to say that Holly Prophet used to go to the mazaars of these Martyres of Uhud to seek mediation ? :nono4:

Going to a grave and praying for the dead person for his/her forgiveness is a different aspect then going to these URS and seeking for mediation. Mediation from a dead person is totally unacceptable.

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Saadiya did you use to be locksmith :D

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It is specific, he told to us to go to (general) graveyard and for the purpose so we get reminded of the hereafter. When you goto Mazaar for Urs you do not really get reminded of "hereafter", rather there are so many distractions away from the 'hereafter'.

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Thus, if we decide to go to the Mazaar of any Saint to make Ziyaarah during any day in the year, then this will be a part? of the said command, and will be a means of reward and blessing.
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Incorrect conclusion.

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This is what the Urs really is, that we appoint a certain day, to gather at the Mazaar of a Saint, where we make Esaal-e-Sawaab and make dua through his mediation.
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There, thats what people go there for, not for reminder of hereafter.

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Imam Abu Bakr bin Shaiba narrates the following Hadith, ?The Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) used to visit the Mazaars of the Martyres of Uhud, at the beginning of every year.? (Radul Muhtar Vol 1 ? page 604)
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There were no "Mazaars" of Martyrs of Uhud, rather their plain graves.

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These people try to confuse the unwary public, by saying that these actions were not from amongst the practices of the early days, thus making it Haraam and Bid?at.
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I see who is doing exactly that.

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The answer? to this has already been stated earlier in this book, but is being repeated for the benefit of those who did not see this. The method of preparing the syllabus for their Madrassahs, teaching the books such as Qaaida Baghdadi and Bukhari etc, specifying days for examination, passing or failing students, holding conferences and huge functions etc. were not practices of the early days. Even the Bukhari that we teach, was not written then in the way that it is written today, with volumes, chapters, footnotes, sections etc. Are all these not amongst the practices that were not in the early days? Then why only is their objection that which we do? The opposition should answer this, and then we will present our answer.
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Someone is really ignorant of the definition of 'bida`ah'.

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**Mazaars of the Martyres of Uhud, **astegfirullah! Does the author have any common sense? I mean "hello, come on", Prophet(SAW) forbade us to make a stone grave then why would he make mazaars of martyres of Uhud!

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