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Here’s something to continue our coversation (This is not a religious thread, but since digi froze, I am going to continue the general conversation here) :

With regard to the creation of dogs, Allaah created them as He created all other animals; it is not permissible to claim that dogs were created from any specific substance without having evidence for that. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“and we testify not except according to what we know”[Yoosuf 12:81] (Reference)

Question :

does touching dogs and/or dogs’ saliva nullify wudoo’?

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

Touching dogs or their saliva does not nullify wudoo’ because if tahaarah is done according to the rules of sharee’ah, nothing can nullify it except things for which there is evidence in sharee’ah. There is no such evidence that touching dogs or their saliva have this effect. It was not mentioned by the scholars among the things that nullify wudoo’.

Ibn Qudaamah mentioned in al-Mughni (1/264) things that nullify wudoo’, and he did not mention touching dogs or their saliva. Then he said: “These are all the things that nullify tahaarah, and it cannot be nullified by anything else according to the view of the majority of scholars…”

But there is no doubt that dogs’ saliva is very dirty and extremely naajis (impure), and it can only be removed by washing seven times, one of them with earth. There is a difference between this and something which nullifies tahaarah. And Allaah knows best. (Reference )

According to another report, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whilst a man was walking he became very thirsty, so he went down to a well and drank from it. When he came out, he saw a dog panting and biting the soil because of thirst. The man said, ‘He is suffering the same as I suffered,’ so he filled his shoe (with water), came out and let the dog drink until his thirst was quenched. Allaah appreciated his good deed and forgave him because of it.” The people asked, “O Messenger of Allaah, will we be rewarded for how we treat animals?” He said, “In every living thing there is a reward.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath, no. 2363).

(Reference)](http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=377&dgn=4)

Conclusion: You may have a guard dog but may not keep it in the livnig area. You may touch a dog or the dog may touch you or lick you, you can wash yourself or the clothes 7 times and it doesn’t nullify your wudoo.

1} Hadhrat Abu Talha :razi: reports that Rasulullah :saw: said, "Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or an animate picture. (Sahih Bukhari Hadith no. 2986)

2} Hadhrat Ibn Abbas :razi: reports from Hadhrat Maimoona :razi2:
that once Rasulullah :saw: became sad; and said that Jibra’eel :as: promised to meet him at night but did not turn up. “By Allah what has kept him back,” said the Prophet (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam). Then he realised a puppy was under his bed. He ordered that the puppy be removed and the area be sprinkled with water. In the afternoon when Jibra’eel (Álayhi Salaam) came, Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) enquired as to the delay. Jibra’eel (Álayhi Salaam) said that we, the group of Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or pictures. (Sahih Muslim Hadith no.3928)

Yep, these two examples are in my references as well, but again, 'house' is considered to be the area where we live, the rooms etc. People can have guard dogs that do not stay inside the rooms, they can stay outside at the gates. Only guard dogs are allowed to be kept, not the one who stay with people all the times and sleep next to them, lick them, and eat in the same pans etc. And yes, I did read that angels do not enter the house where a dog is kept, but again, house stands for where people live inside. Ofcourse the dogs have to stay some place, which is outside of the rooms in their yards etc.

Thanks for your input LUC. And no, I don't have any dogs at home.

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Thanks for your input LUC. And no, I don't have any dogs at home.
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brov' i never said u had doGs at home. and its true that some jurists believe keeping guard dogs is allowed *

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brov' i never said u had doGs at home. and its true that some jurists believe keeping guard dogs is allowed *
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That was to clarify for others who may think I am defending this topic because I have dogs.

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