Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

[Ali_Syed]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

^ I don't think the clergy will solve the issue, they have already divided us into different schools of thought and we have become very extreme in our beliefs. When we die no one will ask us about our sect, anyways as a start maybe we can convince ourselves, and then very close friends and family. Being very careful that religious matters can inflame very quickly.

[Kinzz]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

@muqawwee123

I don’t think that Saddam would be taken as a saint in near future. There are other reasons for visiting mazaraat besides those mentioned by Kinzz in her post. In Sindh university Jamshoro campus, There are graves of ex Vice chancellor, Allama I. I. Qazi and his german wife Elsa Qazi. Many people visit their graves not because they think that they are saints but for paying homage to their love. Mr Qazi attempted suicide just after the death of Elsa Qazi

What? I didn’t know this

[Kinzz]

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@ninja_hattori

But Saddam is a shaheed according some muslims…and shaheed share same status as saints

Now that’s a different issue but how can we really say if someone is shaheed or not?

[Kinzz]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

@muqawwee123

This reminds me gaRhi Khuda Bux and its shuhada?

Haha and I think no one here knows who you are talking about

[ninja_hattori]

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@Kinzz

Now that’s a different issue but how can we really say if someone is shaheed or not?

and how can we say if someone is saint or not?

XYZ shaheed inshallah kehte haina?

[Kinzz]

@ninja_hattori

and how can we say if someone is saint or not?

XYZ shaheed inshallah kehte haina?

Mai samjhi nahi

[ninja_hattori]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

@Kinzz

Mai samjhi nahi

jab koi shakhs shaheed hota hai…
aur uske naam ke pichhe jab shaheed likhte hai uske saath saath hi inshallah bhi likha hua hota hai…

[Kinzz]

@ninja_hattori

jab koi shakhs shaheed hota hai…
aur uske naam ke pichhe jab shaheed likhte hai uske saath saath hi inshallah bhi likha hua hota hai…

Maine shaheed to dekha hai kaee bar names ke sath per insha Allah nahi dekha

[Ali_Syed]

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@Kinzz

Haha and I think no one here knows who you are talking about :D

we can always ask anwar pasha sb if one is unsure ;)

[Kinzz]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

^ I thought he is from khan’s party

[Ali_Syed]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

As a kid I used to hear a Hadith that near the qayamat there will be 72 firqas and only one would be on the right path, now every sect considers itself to be following the right path while others are destined to be doomed. If some one tries to convince others portraying that he is better and what ever the other is doing is shirk/biddat I don't think he can convince him. The other party would become very rigid in their views too. There should be some middle ground somewhere, but how to achieve it is the issue. At the end of the day one cannot impose their beliefs by the use of force.

[ninja_hattori]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

@Ali_Syed

we can always ask anwar pasha sb if one is unsure

Now i got it i think…

he was talking about ZAB?

[Ali_Syed]

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@Kinzz

^ I thought he is from khan’s party

He is the greatest murreed of the ‘basi of gaRhi Khuda bux’

[Kinzz]

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@ninja_hattori

Now i got it i think…

he was talking about ZAB?

Yes ZAB and family.

[Ali_Syed]

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@ninja_hattori

Now i got it i think…

he was talking about ZAB?

zab, bb the whole family I believe is buried there

[Kinzz]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

But I think going to mazars has nothing to do with sects people from all sects and from different religion visit mazars

@Ali_Syed

As a kid I used to hear a Hadith that near the qayamat there will be 72 firqas and only one would be on the right path, now every sect considers itself to be following the right path while others are destined to be doomed. If some one tries to convince others portraying that he is better and what ever the other is doing is shirk/biddat I don’t think he can convince him. The other party would become very rigid in their views too. There should be some middle ground somewhere, but how to achieve it is the issue. At the end of the day one cannot impose their beliefs by the use of force.

[Kinzz]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

@Ali_Syed

zab, bb the whole family I believe is buried there

Yes it's their Abbai qabristan in ghari khuda bakhsh village.

[Ali_Syed]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

@Kinzz

But I think going to mazars has nothing to do with sects people from all sects and from different religion visit mazars

I don’t have any issue in visiting mazaars, as these were great people who propagated the religion in the subcontinent. I am just talking about some acts which people commit there, I believe one should be a little bit cautious thats it.

[ninja_hattori]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

@Ali_Syed

As a kid I used to hear a Hadith that near the qayamat there will be 72 firqas and only one would be on the right path, now every sect considers itself to be following the right path while others are destined to be doomed. If some one tries to convince others portraying that he is better and what ever the other is doing is shirk/biddat I don't think he can convince him. The other party would become very rigid in their views too. There should be some middle ground somewhere, but how to achieve it is the issue. At the end of the day one cannot impose their beliefs by the use of force.

Middle ground can be sought by our scholars only....if they do that peace is...KSA also has shia population but they dont have sectarian wars like pakistan...i think only christian-muslim fightings in nigeria match pakistani scale of violence..you can see them joining hands with each other for different issues...

[Aceones]

Re: Peer, faqeer aur Mazaraat

apart from religious beliefs (or restrictions), “short cut” is one of the reasons...
Peer sahib aapki namazain muaf karwa saktay hain, zyada mehnat kay baghair aapko exam main achi position dilwa saktay hain, jald business chamka saktay hain
In sab kamoon k liye mehnat kon karay jab short cut mojood hay
Phir sari umar shariyat ki panbandi ki kya zaroorat jab aapkay “peer-o-murshid” aapko qayamat kay roz chuRwa saktay hain...