Hmmm… You make me wonder… I shall work towards this bro… You have actually convinced me… You have shown me and all the Indians and other in the sub-continent the path to success… I hope you are there or at least your thoughts are communicated to the guys(Musharraf & M Singh) at the UN as they meet again. Now for the idea you should get the Nobel Peace prize..
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At times I am amazed to see you guys dreaming about “Akhand Bharat”… this dream has become tooo long for the last 58 years. Strated with the claim that Pakistan will not be able to survive to 2-3 years. Now this has been 58 years. Wake up dudes wake up… the cow has been divided long ago. Accept it.
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Lahore bhai - u can make out sarcasm or not?? (I was trying to ridicule your idea if you didnt get it)
I have never heard anyone talk about akhand Bharat in India except as it having been a dream for some %&%&^ at the RSS decades ago...but now even those bunch of idiots dont talk about it... Pardon the way I put it but thanks to all propaganda and biased media over decades (last few years have been so much better), Indians (just like you Pakistanis) have more of "Pakistan is enemy" thought and so partition is perhaps seen more as Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish!!! (am sure vice versa holds given all the India bashing on this site)
And one certainly hopes Pakistan flourishes in ever aspect just as I hope so for India
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^ India pakistan should have friendly relations thats what all pakistani want that is for sure but pakistan cant compromise on pronciples that is India cant dictate terms just like it takes advantageof smaller countries in the region the best example is Nepal.If indians like to see pakitstan flourish then should compromise.why should only pakistan take one step forward why not india?so india should realise the kashmir issue.Recently the construction of baghliar dam on this issue India didnot even consult pakistan and started the project.Pakistan isdoing everything from pak iran india gas pipeline to options on kashmir.India should respond positively.India should soften its approach.
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Basically, Pakistanis have no time to nuke India. We have to take care of our lovely land, Pakistan. But the problem is what I quoted below. Believe it or not, it is the reason why Pakistanis behave aggressively towrds India. If you do belive in what you said, then I think India should take the initiative and leave Kashmir immediately… resolve all the problems with mutual aggrement, dialogue and consent rather than by using unfair and CUNNING ways to achieve its objective.
I agree to you 100%. Can’t say in better term. They are building this dam and many more to devoid Pakistan of the waters violating Indus river treaty…
This is called “Baghal main churi moun main raam raam”
Sorry PRNR, you need to look at your governement’s policies towards Pakistan. At least I cannot let you go like this… I cannot become friend with Indians in this situation…and you know what, the educated people in India are sitting out and the “Illetrate Jahil” people who eat cow dung and drink cow urine are in the Parliament and they keep on behaving in an immture way, not like sensible Indians (Which I do believe exist)… These people are the ones who represent Indians, peole from RSS, BJP etc. Peole like Adwani, Wajpai, Lallo parsad, Togria, etc etc… who ignited many many issues with Pakistan to stay in power.
I guess I am right… Right? Educated sensible Idnians are “kicked out”. They are not in politics… Those around me who are educated are really nice people. They themselves call their government’s policies wrong. They even say, Indian should withdraw from Kashmir. They admit the illegitimate occupation of Kashmir…
If you are a person like this or I have other Indians who accept the facts, I pay due respect to them. But those who are not, I treat them with “Cow **** and Dung” what they like in reality (as they get offended by these dung talks)
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From what I understand each country's rulers (oh its not like the Indian parliament is full of the kind of people you mentioned - it does have a good proprotion of educated ones too - but politics a different game), have their agendas. No country incl Pakistan does only what it appears to be doing. There are wrongs that both govts have been doing and will continue to do. Coz of the size, India appears the big bully - does not necessarily mean that the smaller ones are doodh ka dhula hua - pls dont assume that.
There are sufficient egs of Pak policies towards India being far from benign - both countries have done enough harm to each other (as i read in some other thread - Vajpayee & Nawaz Sharief talking peace while Kargil was happening is an example of Bagal mein churi aur muh me raam raam from Pakistan's side).
And gving egs of ridiculous happenings in India (yes they happen) does not mean that Pakistan is paradise - am certain there are similarly ridiculous happenings in pakistan as well - dont need your confirmation of that) - and you must realise that it gets reported in an obscure corner of a newspaper and is not the highlight of the day for India. Wonder if you will understand this given the stand you have been taking on these issues.
Leaving Kashmir - maybe Pakistan is right may be its not - it will have to be discussed out. And be realistic - Pakistan also can soften its approach and do what it can to stop aiding terrorists. So it works both ways.
Lets not sit smug with the feeling that the ball lies in the other person's court. We both need to do things to move ahead (now dont calculate who hass to do more etc etc..)
Cheers!!
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The problem is Kashmir and if India even come close to the table to discuss out than…
I can assure you this won’t happen at all. You need to understand India needs to take a step forward instead of being mean and refusing to even talk on Kashmir issue.
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Again you put the ball completely in India's court - the problem is that India believes that lot of the problem is because Pakistan is aiding terrorists in all sorts of ways and from its point of view, it is stupid to be discussing the issue with a country thats actually creating problems for it.
Now all I am saying is that, let both sides not assume/conclude that they are right and see if anything can be done. But if you are going to insist that you are absolutely right and India is completely wrong then there is no way we are going to have an solution for ever.
See there is another reason why it is slightly difficult for this to be solved - not impossible but difficult. Let us assume for arguments sake that India is wrong completely. But over the years thousands of security men have died in Kashmir. From a Pak point of view, they probably deserved to die for capturing what was not their area etc etc. BUT, from the point of view of Indians across India (incl parts of India that are thousands of miles away from kashmir), their sons/brothers/fathers sacrificed their life for the country - now the cause they died for is India. If any Indian govt, decides to give away anything in Kashmir, that party and its leaders will have to take retirement and probably run away from India coz it will be difficult to explain to the Indian population that all those men died for nothing. Even I have lost a close friend in Kargil and feel that it will be next to impossible for me to stay rational if such a thing were to happen.
Am sure the Kashmiris (the ones who actually thought they were fighting for their freedom ad not the merecenaries brought in by Pakistan), will also have similar thougts. Thats were it gets stuck. Bu all this is even if we were to assume that India is wrong completely etc etc.
Practically I feel - status quo is more viable an option. Am not saying that I think this is what you will like or agree to but looks more pragmatic.
Otherwise, looks like we will continue spending more on defence budgets.
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is kashmir core issue or religen itself the problem between india and pakistan
do pakistan worried we are not muslims
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i think this is more of a PA thread now. Moving there.
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i like this PRNR dude.. happy chappy dude.. i mean all hes saying is.. that no is perfect.. and both countries should do well and better themselves.
bt then we have sum arrogant assholes who cant get the simple message.. and go on about india bashing.. i thought dat was all in media between india and pak.. bt wen i cum hea.. nope.. its in ppl too..
bt the weird thing is.. wen we cum out of pak and india.. we don give **** about whcih country we from.. all we care is we are desis..
i hav dis sikh dude workin for us.. and hes one of my best mates.. i would trust him more then any other dude i know.. may they be muslims or pakis or wat eva..
now.. i will be goin to india wen he gets married.. bt man.. he neva gives **** dat m muslim or wat eva.. and i don give **** wat he is.. its all in the house.. we desis dudes hangin out..
y cant u pathetic ppl in pak and india get this simple message livin in india and pak....
i mean ive read a story of a indian who came to usa.. and he had a very negative image of paki.. and yet a paki helped him out.. and he started lovin em....
oh well.. i guess it wil take 1-2 more generations.. 20 yrs to go..
allah hafiz.. peace out..
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My take on this ... INDIA , PAKISTAN friendship is not feasible, you make any number of theories.
Look at the hate everyone carries against each other ....... Its just impossible for indians and pakistanis to be friends except on some occasion of cricket match or some kind of summit .....
besides that for pakistanis indias are always dark, smelly dalits, brahamins, south indians not at all a match for tall, white western looking pakistanis and for indians pakistanis are always violent, mullah following, gun carring idots and friendship with them means trouble for ever.
I dont see anything is possible to remove doubts about each other from there minds and obvious superiority complex that they carry against each other.
Beside that what do you think this the main problem between india and pakistan, **KASHMIR ........ **Bull$$T .....
You solve the kashmir issue ......... and there will be host of issue ...ready to confornt each other ........
Fact is that neither you want a solution and neither do I ......
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Fair point. True for most.
On neither “want” a solution - it indicates that we are happy about a problem with each other as though it is one of our reasons for existence. I dont think the majority think that way.
Solution may not be very possible though…but worth the try definitely.
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what do you mean by try … what is the way out … **NO, THERE IS NO WAY OUT … **
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Sometimes with time, lots of things appear differently...And so being optimistic
Wont help to jjust keeping picking at each other only.
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Sometimes with time, lots of things appear differently...And so being optimistic
Wont help to just keeping picking at each other only.
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Sometimes with time, lots of things appear differently...And so being optimistic
Wont help to just keeping picking at each other only.
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Care to elobrate what issues will come up after Kashmir. There is no other issue big enough to start war between Bharat and Pak.
Minor things will remain but Kashmir issue should not be held hostage by Bharat.
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FIRST GO … AND READ YOUR OWN POSTS
PPL LIKE YOU ARE THERE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER … NO ONE CAN CHANGE PPL LIKE YOU …
There is this saying … you can wake up a man who is sleeping and not the one who is pretending to …
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Why are u guys cursing so much? Using $'s and %'s etc, doesn't mean you're not cursing...
And stop it with the bold caps, please...
Where has all the class gone to in this forum? Has it jumped the border into Afghanistan or something?