PCB vs BCCI

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brahmachari99 sahab ne farmayya:

Baja farmayya… but lets not count our eggs too soon.

InziMullahHaq is retired. Now, the command is, or more likely will end up, with Younis Disco Khan. So its start of a new chapter. Whether it will be autocratic or democratic; inflexible or brilliant; unthinking or attacking … we just don’t know at this time. And Pakistan cricket has had more than its fair share of characters - remember the rebellion against Miandad in early 80’s, and then having 7 former captains playing in Waqar Younis’ ill-fated 2003 WC team.

Anyway, in their current state, despite Naseem Bumbling Ashraf staying put, I think Pakistan cricket may have a slight advantage in this battle of “Who is the more dysfunctional”. Indian cricket, despite having a rock solid Wall as captain seems to be in a mess as far as team unity is concerned. Lets hope Pakistan doesn’t fall into the same kinda issues in days to come.

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I am still scared for our (Pakistani) team..i dont think it'll get better any sooner nor is anything that Naseem Ashraf said in the press conference going to happen at least not for now ;S

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I guess both are ridiculous....Both lack "knowledge" of cricket.

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Posted in other thread in response to Bharamachari's above comments.

Ours is worse than Indian. We were always saved and looked good because of immense talent we are blessed with. Otherwise we would have been minnows for a long time. If it was not for Imrans, Miandads, Wasims and Waqars, we would have been Zimbabwae at the best.

We don't only lack professionalism, but we also suck at forward thinking.

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^ In an article on CricInfo, Sambit Bal says the same thing about Indian cricket. He calls superstars like Tendu, Dravid and Ganguly freaks as they were not produced or nurtured by the farm system (domestic). Pakistan is the same.

But I disagree with the basic assumption.

Pakistan and India share the same colonial past and cricket was nurtured since 1947 is almost similar ways. Brilliance over-shadowed careful planning. We can't have a discussion about what-if all those brilliant players hadn't played for Pakistan. The Kardars, Fazal Mehmoods, Hanif Muhammads, Imran Khans and Miandads are part of our history. Point is that they played and they were given opportunities to represent our country and they delivered.

We shouldn't completely rubbish our infrastructure. Neither should Indians. Its not as efficient or competitive as county or Sheffield (Australian) or whatever the heck South Africans have, but it still gives us good options on a regular basis. And amongst the masses, cricket is extremely popular, so many athletic young men will continue to dream of and have the desire and ability to play for our national team in years to come.

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PCB vs BCCI
hunh...good one...

One has DNA otherone has POWER (pawar)..
(anybody who can't figure out what DNA means, should check their IQ level on one of the free websites)

PCB = Poora Chay board
BCCI = Board of Chora Chamar Idiots

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One of the richest sports bodies in the World and it does not have a website.

What is BCCI ?

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Asking what is the difference between PCB and BCCI is same as asking what is the difference between Pakistan and India.

PCB - Corrupt Dictatorship
BCCI - Chaotic Democracy

You take your pick.

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PCB and BCCI are used as a representation of cricket infrastructure in the two respective countries, and not necessarily limited to Ashraf and Pawar etc.

Well, what you are seeing in terms of media reports about factions in the Indian team can hardly be labled democracy, but chaotic is definitely the right word. Its bordering on dysfunctional. However, if the idea is that a majority of players should “elect” their captain, then India is certainly on the right path to establish “democracy” in their team!! :k:

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:rotfl:

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Pakistan was lucky to get talent like Inzamam and Saeed. It is unlikely that we will produce players like this ever again; they would have broken some serious batting records had they played any county Cricket. Players such as Miandad, Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Saqlain and others have refined their talent playing county Cricket. So, do not expect just another Inzamam and Saeed ever again, especially when we have the present domestic culture, add to that PCB with no back bone to finally play as a head of the board and have an organization. If I recall, Inzamam was picked by Imran rather recommended by PCB. Do not think that passion is going to get it done…we are lucky that Legends like Wasim, Waqar, Saqlain, Inzamam and Saeed were able to play in one team at same time. It will not happen again…you need structure and constitution period. Otherwise, the best is Younis Khan, who will choke as a first down.

If we look in past 4 years, we did have talented players in the name of Salman Butt, Yasir Hameed, Kamran Akmal, Mohammad Sami and Shoaib Malik; but because they are not Saeed, Inzamam or Waqar Younis they had to go through to hell where they are put in all wrong positions. Additionally when they went through a bad patch, there was no domestic cricket to help them; Kaneria also had hard time in 2005/06 but because he played some county cricket, he was able to rescue his career and improve as a player.

With India, problem is they have been smitten by Jaysuriya and Afridi. They love their big hitters and it is unlikely they are going to give up on their Sehwag and Dhoni. Dhoni is not a wicket-keeper, Kaif or Dravid can do a better job, but because he had his lucky 148 and 183* on flat track, they want to see it again, be it after every 2 years while players like Jaffer, Kaif, Raina and Kathrik sit outside and see dust.

PCB and BCCI need to get their act together, have a disciplinary code where no one is above the law, which includes players, board members and coach. Second, make the domestic cricket more competitive.

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I think the board's activities should be limited to arranging international matches etc...one clerk at the board would be enough...

The Chief Coach should find his assistants for bowling, batting & fielding + fitness...the chief coach + his assistant coaches should pick the best boys from the (inter)national arena at a given time...and from that squad...the chief coach should select a captain and a vice captain...

PS: In this way...the whole responsibility lies with the chief coach and not with the board...let the board do only the administrative work and the Chief Coach his cricketing work...