The single fact is Waqar is the thing of the past, no matter what he has done in the past, his contributions to Pakistani cricket team currently is very limited.
He is old, in his mid 30s, and he maybe currently better then Gul and Shabbir but Waqar's status will only go down, while Gul and Shabbir's skills will only go up.
We need to think about 2007, not what happend in the last decade. He should be asked to retire gracefully and play in the last match.
Though I think it should be in different matches, both against South Africa.
Maybe they should call that series Pension Series.
I dont think we should ask Waqar to retire. The whole ideareeks of stupidity and is absolutely ridiculous. How many other countries have asked their cricketers to retire so that they can be given a farewell. This is pathetic. Retirement is Waqar’s personal decision. If the PCB doesnt want to select him, fine. Dont insult the man. Secondly, what kind of signals is PCB giving out to the future stars? I am afraid if this turns into a trend then we can say bye bye to our future cricketers. This PCB chairman is as unpredictable as a 12 year old. One moment Waqar is the captain of the team and in the second moment he’s being asked to retire…gracefully? gracefully my ass.
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Spock
I dont want to get into fight between you and Asif and I respect your opinion that Waqar's days are over as a bowler.But looking at his records and the service he has done for country he atleast deserves to decide himself when he wants to call it a day.Its humiliating for him that PCB is basically forcing him to retire.
Dont just support PCB on this issue just because an Indian Asif didnt like PCB's stands.Dont let your hatred for him hijack your commonsense.
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This is for Yasir and all the guppies who have a hard time reading...
** Waqar's career is finished, he should announce his retirement** I dont care if he accepts PCB's offer, but he should immediately announce his retirenment. Agar ab bhi samajh nahee arahi tu jo marzi karo...
does anyone remember SAEED ANWAR ..no one talks about him ..if PCB don't want him to play anymore for pakistan then they should also do the same as they did with WAQAR...
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This is for Yasir and all the guppies who have a hard time reading...
** Waqar's career is finished, he should announce his retirement** I dont care if he accepts PCB's offer, but he should immediately announce his retirenment. Agar ab bhi samajh nahee arahi tu jo marzi karo...
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well since you are exactly a nobody so your verdict doesnt mean anything at all. its only waqar who is going to decide when and if he wants to retire.
The question is not if Waqar is good enough for the current team or not. After all his services he deserved to be treated better. First of all why make an offer for a farewell match if he is not willing to quit, and even if they wanted very desperatley to make an offer then they should have done that in private. Making a public offer is inslulting Waqar, basically they are trying to force him into retirment and making sure he understanmds along with the public that he will not be considered for the future.
waqar younis is a living legend he shouldn’t be treated in this indisplicable manner, he deserves better personally i have always hated pcb for internally wrecking promising careers so i don’;t think its worth it commenting on this latest stunt.
BTW waqar younis is 31 years old he was born in vaheri (punjab), in november, 1971 and that makes him 32 in november which is 4 months away yet.
i vermehentally deny the fact that his international career is over not at all, ok he hasn’t got the deadly pace no more, but he has over 700 wickets to his credit in both forms of the game and he might even have had more if he wasn’t dropped unfairly under wasim akrams captaincy some yrs back but that’s another issue i’ll leave that for now.
i really don’t know exactly why he is out of contention he is bowling better than shoaibi at the mo’ and even sami but still isn’t picked, in this sport, age in my view bares no resemblance (look at mushi ahmed and waugh) as u need to be fit and performing and as long as ur doing that ur in with a chance but when ur up against a cricket board like ours 
these things will always happen.
this is simply a slap on waQar's face by PCB. by no meanz his career is over. yes he failed as a captain but also proved his worth with his bowling. PCB should bring him back as a bowler. there is still a lot of bowling left in waqar and PCB shouls give him another chance to prove his worth to pakistani cricket team :-)
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Ohh Wiqqi is just gr8.I'm sure there are couple of idiots who are running our cricket.Allah khair karey :<
Kind of an unfair move against a legendary cricketer.
But I am inclined to agree that most of Waqar's career is over with Pakistan and we have some great young prospects who can play in his place. But still he should'nt be forced out and certainly his retirement shoud'nt be mixed with Wasim's. To do so would steal some of the spotlight from Waqar and this is wrong. I say let him play for a year or so more than give him his own going away game.
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Kind of an unfair move against a legendary cricketer.
But I am inclined to agree that most of Waqar's career is over with Pakistan and we have some great young prospects who can play in his place. But still he should'nt be forced out and certainly his retirement shoud'nt be mixed with Wasim's. To do so would steal some of the spotlight from Waqar and this is wrong. I say let him play for a year or so more than give him his own going away game.
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But I am inclined to agree that most of Waqar's career is over with Pakistan and we have some great young prospects who can play in his place
Great Prospect? WHO?
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But I am inclined to agree that most of Waqar's career is over with Pakistan and we have some great young prospects who can play in his place
Great Prospect? WHO?
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Sami, Gul
PCB’s action was immature. Weather Waqar is as effective as he was back in 92 is not the question. His age or present contributions what ever they may be. That was no way to treat any cricketer let alone Waqar. Since Waqar has not announced his retirement, they should not have given him a farewell invitation, specially, publicly. If PCB feels that they have better options than him then send the message across to Waqar by dropping him from the side. You do not become a great player with out brains, Waqar got those wickets cuz he was smart. So PCB should let him decide when he retires, leaving it to his better judgment. Then once he does so, they could arrange for a farewell game for him as well.
Gull ??? I don't think he will ever match the likes of Wasim or Waqar.Sami looks promosing but still he has got a long way to go.
Stupidity ki hadd hoti hai… Go tell this to the selectors, I am sure they will consider your highness’s verdict, 
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Gull ??? I don't think he will ever match the likes of Wasim or Waqar.Sami looks promosing but still he has got a long way to go.
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No one said Gul is Wasim but he is definitly a good prospect.
And it’s goodnight from him…
And it’s goodnight from him …
Wisden Comment by Kamran Abbasi - July 7, 2003
A career can end in many ways. Some prefer a planned exit, others an impromptu departure. Some retire too quickly, others too slowly. Some Asian cricketers drag out their demise, eking out every morsel of acclaim and monetary reward. The bigger they come the slower they fade. Kapil Dev and Javed Miandad are two prime examples. This is not just an Asian trait, but it certainly runs more strongly in our blood.
Such dithering can become a little bothersome for a cricket board intent on a clearout. What to do with a great cricketer who won’t let the fat lady sing? The answer is genius in its simplicity: announce a farewell match and stop the debate. The question is, why has nobody thought of it before? And the man with a chance to go down in history as a pioneer is Waqar Younis.
Waqar has had some difficulty in the last few months. He hasn’t quite got the message. After Pakistan’s abysmal World Cup performance it seemed inevitable that he would retire from international cricket. Indeed, if Pakistan were to fail in the World Cup, a bad failure probably suited the purposes of the Pakistan Cricket Board best. Off the record, Pakistan officials will admit that it was a relief - they now had a mandate for change.
Instead Waqar vowed to fight for his place, with a return to county cricket as part of his comeback plan. But in the meantime Pakistan’s young fast bowlers have rendered Waqar obsolete. And the recent public tiff between Waqar and Shoaib Akhtar underscores the painful tussle between old warhorses and young bucks that has paralysed Pakistan cricket over the last year. In offering Waqar a farewell home game against South Africa the message from the Pakistan Cricket Board is clear and simple: thank you and goodnight. The subtext is that this is Waqar’s best chance of a dignified exit, whereas the alternative is adding his name to the long list of great Asian cricketers who have departed with acrimony.
It is touching too that this planned farewell will be hand in glove with Wasim Akram’s. Together they formed the most potent fast-bowling partnership in the history of Asian cricket, perhaps in world cricket. Together they will reward their fans with a final hurrah. Wasim, as ever, has shown a shrewder touch. Sensing that the mood was against him, Wasim announced his retirement and was instantly rewarded with a farewell game. During the NatWest Challenge in England I asked Wasim if he thought he should be playing. His reply? “I’ve had my time. It is time for the youngsters to enjoy themselves in the middle.”
Waqar should have taken a hint from Wasim’s retirement. Now the ignominy of having a farewell game foisted upon him can only be surpassed if he refuses to accept this unique offer. Waqar’s glittering career has brought many records. But there are no more on the horizon, except the dubious one of the first forced farewell. Waqar has still not accepted the Pakistan board’s proposal. He should. The selectors have said goodnight to Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram. Against South Africa in Pakistan it will be time for thank you.
Kamran Abbasi, born in Lahore, brought up in Rotherham, is deputy editor of the British Medical Journal.
no comments.........
a lot has been been said in other thread .
perhaps the board realizes more than the players that all 'heroes' spoil their names by dragging themselves out of the game when they r useless....