Re: PCB had planned to quash rising ‘mullaism’ within team
^ You answered your own question. Its cricket. Lets keep the focus on cricket. If something does not interfere with their cricketing ability, why make a fuss about it.
Just FYI, though, Yankees baseball team, has every player completely clean shaven. Their owners like that. Its a privately owned franchise team. Owners can make any policies and if a player doesn't like, he can take a hike and go play for some other team. However, it will be inappropriate for a national cricket team to start enforcing their personal views which have nothing to do with cricket.
Re: PCB had planned to quash rising ‘mullaism’ within team
Now I don’t want you to take this word for word but Paa Jee may have a point here. This Jamaat influence/Tableeghi mentality/mullahism within the team MUST go. That said I respect religious people who follow Islam the way it should be.
‘‘Faith ‘distracted’ Pakistan team’’ - PJ Mir
Pakistan’s cricketers allowed their religious beliefs to distract them during the World Cup, according to the team’s media manager.
Pervez Mir told a performance review meeting in Karachi that the players were not properly focused on cricket.
Pakistan were eliminated at the first round stage following defeats by West Indies and, more surprisingly, Ireland.
“I told the committee that the players, rather than pray privately, tried to make it a public spectacle,” said Mir.
He claims that on one occasion a number of players gathered to pray in the galley of an aircraft rather than do so individually in their seats.
The importance of religion to the Pakistan team has grown in recent years. Batsman Mohammad Yousuf, a former Christian, made headlines in 2005 when he revealed he had converted to Islam, resulting in him being publicly disowned by his mother
But last October, Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Dr Nasim Ashraf told the players not to make a public exhibition of their beliefs.
At the time, Ashraf said he accepted faith was a motivating factor for the team.
“It binds them together - but there should be balance between religion and cricket,” he added.
The Habib Bank, meanwhile, has halted a new publicity campaign which featured players Younis Khan and Shahid Afridi.
It followed a number of instances of posters and billboards being defaced by fans angry and the team’s poor performance in the Caribbean. “We decided to suspend this campaign because of the prevailing mood,” said bank spokesman Abdul Raquib.
Re: PCB had planned to quash rising ‘mullaism’ within team
hahaha
Sorry, I know the topic of flop Pakistani cricket team is very emotional for guppies here but I think it is ironic that team who had led themselves and others to believe that their piety will win them gold (or cup) has been beaten so bad.
I guess the old saying, Allah help those who help themselves is very appropriate here.
I suspect that had the Pakistani team won the world cup this year, it would have been almost a guarantee that selection in future would be made on size of the beard, rather than the length of the chaka. Mainly because the selectors, knowing well enough the capabilities of their players would have become believers that with such lack of talent only Allah could make them winners. So lets look at the bright side, it may have been good that they came home as losers.
Re: PCB had planned to quash rising ‘mullaism’ within team
PJ Mir is such a idiot guy. Just saw his interview clip on GEO, he was like
"International media nai mujhey clip dee hai k Airplane ke first class main aazan ho rahee hai, team namaz parh rahee hai, media mujhey sai sawal kerta hai, aab main kia jawab doon?"
He was like "What message are we giving to the world by giving Azan and praying in Airplane?"
What a stupid guy to have as a media manager. Taking interviews on a TV program is different than giving interviews to other media.
Re: PCB had planned to quash rising ‘mullaism’ within team
PJ Mir is such a idiot guy. Just saw his interview clip on GEO, he was like
"International media nai mujhey clip dee hai k Airplane ke first class main aazan ho rahee hai, team namaz parh rahee hai, media mujhey sai sawal kerta hai, aab main kia jawab doon?"
He was like "What message are we giving to the world by giving Azan and praying in Airplane?"
What a stupid guy to have as a media manager. Taking interviews on a TV program is different than giving interviews to other media.
This really has got to stop. By all means they should pray 5 times a day but it should not come in the way of their main task which is playing cricket for the country. They have to be focussed on it.
PJ Mir, Pakistan’s media manager during the World Cup, has blamed the influence of religion in the dressing room for Pakistan’s disastrous performance in the Caribbean.
Speaking to reporters after his appearance at the performance evaluation committee looking into Pakistan’s shambolic display, Mir said, "I could not disclose this fact before, but today I inform the media that most of the members had no focus on cricket. Their fixation was on preaching, affecting the team’s preparations."
**Mir complained that the players devoted more time to praying and preaching than to the game itself. “The boys were up against the most challenging task of proving their skills in the prestigious tournament, but I am sorry to say they had no drive for the game and were much more active in preaching and praying.” **
**Mir argued that the religious influence had gone “beyond limits. I told the committee that Pakistani players, rather than pray privately, tried to make it a public spectacle.” **
Mir added that he told the committee of incidents to highlight his point, highlighting instances where some players, led by former captain Inzamam-ul-Haq, even made it a point to pray in the galley of aircrafts on flights rather than privately in their seats. He said that there is video evidence to prove his point and is offering to pass it onto the PCB to assess the situation further.
Since the England tour last summer, criticism over what is perceived as the team’s overt religiosity has steadily grown. In one of his first public statements after taking over as chairman of the board, Nasim Ashraf called on the team to dampen down ‘public displays of religiosity’](http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/263999.html) in a TV interview. The remark led to a sharp retort from Inzamam, since when the issue has simmered away under the public radar, a number of PCB officials privately echoing Ashraf’s stance.
In a tense press conference last week, Inzamam dismissed speculation of religion taking priority within the team but Mir’s comments have dragged the issue out into the open once again.
The evaluation committee began its work last week and has interviewed a number of players and officials, including Inzamam and Mushtaq Ahmed, Pakistan’s assistant coach. They are due to meet former chairmen Tauqir Zia and Shaharyar Khan as well and are expected to hand in their report on Pakistan’s debacle within a month.
Re: PCB had planned to quash rising ‘mullaism’ within team
^ so you think giving aazan and praying in "first class" of a plane is wrong? and should not be done? It was simply the height of criticism from PJ Mir
Islamabad - The Pakistan cricket team’s media manager said some players’ fixation on religious activities resulted in their dismal performance in the World Cup, reports said on Saturday.
PJ Mir made the observation to reporters after submitting his statement to the evaluation committee of Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in Lahore, who are reviewing the team’s performance in the Caribbean.
“I could not disclose the fact before, but today I informed the media that most of the members had no focus on cricket. Their fixation was on preaching, affecting the team’s preparation,” the English daily Dawn quoted him as telling reporters after the Friday hearing.
Mir said some members of team had “no drive for the game and were much more active in preaching and praying.”
“I have video footage which will prove me right and I will handover those tapes to the Pakistan Cricket Board,” he said.
“It was beyond the limit, this religious influence, and the players were even made to offer prayers during the flights,” he said without naming who had forced the team members to pray.
The newspaper said Mir’s bold statement was seen as an attempt to check the growing religious extremism within cricket in Pakistan amid reports that the PCB had devised a plan to rid the team of extremism.
The world number three side were dumped out of the World Cup by minnows Ireland on March 18. A day later their coach Bob Woolmer’s strangled body was found in his room on the 12th floor of the Jamaica Pegasus Hotel in Kingston. - Sapa-AFP
Re: PCB had planned to quash rising ‘mullaism’ within team
^ Again the anti-islamic propaganda will be mixed in the criticism right now, becuase of what the tableegh culture has made the team into today.
The players of Pakistan Cricket team need to fit the following model to be successful, respected and fulfil their religious obligations:
Committed 100% to give their fullest to WIN.
Be selected on the basis of talent, skill and future aptitude for development in all areas of the game.
Be allowed to follow their faith and beliefs in private or public (for dawah if they choose to do so).
Be clear and confident that a position in the team will be secured so long as they are performing individually as well as contributing to team WINS.
Be clear that their performance includes what and how they contribute to the team spirit and internal environment.
When the above is gauranteed, then it will be only a plus for them that they can:
1. Propagate their views or visions for the world.
E.g. some players in global sports propagate efforts against starvation, some advertise fashion and a love life, while others are a persona of morality or religion.
2. Be able to create an image of themselves on and off the field
3. Be ambassadors for their country and religion.
4. Wear their beliefs as they like.
my hindu freinds like denada say whatever ....
islam is the life-line of pakistan..its the first state that came into being after 1400 years on the islam after Madina state....
as Israel is the state which came into being after 2000 years on judaism....so these two state sare..and inshallah will ever remin one's enemy...and n Armegadon...thesetwo jewish and muslims will have a real fight..no jazbati...this is reality.....
Pakistan=islam
islam=pakistan
you can say anything more but above two equations will never change...i admit thier solutions are not yet available ut theses equations will never chage inshallah...
Pkistan is the fort of islam...and will remain..whatever media say...we damn care about that...... and i think india team defeat is the reason of its "Secularism" !!!!!