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Chachoo jee, I agree with what you said for the most part. There has to be a criteria by which your so called Patriotism can be judged. But I dont think that has to be an actual physical act. The way Pakistan is today, simply believing it has a future and still having hope is I think enough to fit the criteria of a patriot. Look how miserable everyone in Pakistan is, hardly anyone has any hope, everyone feels like a victim. Mohajirs, Balochis, Sindhis, and every joe on the street, everyone is disillusioned, they dont care about the country. Look at India, look how proud they are, they are always glowing with pride, compare that to the look of our people. For someone to still defend Pakistan, and to believe in it and still have hope is I think, saying a lot.
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Yes, Pakistan has its problems just like the neighboring glowing proud nation(s). But to make general statements like the ones you did above is a gross generalization at best. There are a lot of Pakistanis in Pakistan who will prove your statements above completely wrong, don’t just focus on one section of the population take a holistic picture.
That's what intrigues me, what is you hope based on? Why do you defend Pakistan? If it is such a miserable place and everyone is a victim, then why defend it? Why the hope? Is that because you are patriotic? Why?
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Im sure Qatra Qatra can make a difference in some ways and im all for it, but Qatra will not do in Pakistan, what Pakistan needs is a revolution. I mean there are such powerful forces at play, Army wil not allow proper democracy, but then neither will the politicians. Feudals make sure to keep their poor indentured servents as just that poor and indentured. You cant fight them because they are in charge of making the very laws you want to repeal. Religious fanatics rule everything, and you can never fight them under threat of being seriously hurt or worse. Im not sure which Qatra we should be putting in but I dont think any of the real problem will ever be solved through my meager donations. [/qoute]
Revolution? It doesn’t work, it is violent and it suppresses people and change is never long lasting. What you need is a mind set change, that people embrace. That is a painstakingly slow process. We don’t have leaders worthy of leading the nation so the change has to come from the people not from the leaders. What Qatra, a very good question. I will open a separate thread on this very soon.
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And no you dont have to be a patriot to be a good citizen. Being a citizen of Pakistan is hard enough sometimes, being a citizen and a patriot that cant always be easy. In Pakistan we all know that their are actually different kinds of citizens, first class who are Sunni and perhaps Shia, and then the second class who are Hindus, Chiristians, Sikhs and Parsi, and then the third class who are Ahmedi. But then thats justice in an Islamic society.
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Same trend these days blame everything on Mullahs and Islam and take the back seat. “Classes of citizenship” is not just a Pakistani phenomenon it exists in most countries and even in most modern countries like US and European nations. The key is you recognize these issues and if you don’t have a solution look around and see how others deal with it.
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Im all for Islamic society if that wat people want, but is it asking to much to also have a tolerance and respect in this so called Islamic society?
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Not at all, actually that should be the life line of an Islamic Society.
