Parental Control..

[amir_pindi]

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Islamically it applies more to Girls because:

Because they are the weaker and more vulnerbale sex to be able to look after themself alone.

And because Islamically it is more a mans duty to face and deal with the outside world to win the bread for his family.

[njgal]

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My dad usually got "crappy statements" from other people because he gave me and sister too much independence.

His usual response was that -

"In life - they need to deal with men as their employers, husbands, sons and co workers. They need to learn how to how to deal with them now."

It really helped to get out of "Oh my gawd, a boy a boy, *swoon *swoon" syndrome pretty early in life.

[NJMasti]

My dad usually got "crappy statements" from other people because he gave me and sister too much independence.

His usual response was that -

"In life - they need to deal with men as their employers, husbands, sons and co workers. They need to learn how to how to deal with them now."

It really helped to get out of "Oh my gawd, a boy a boy, *swoon *swoon" syndrome pretty early in life.

I agree with your dad!

[amir_pindi]

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I too Agree that in the modern world, women also need to be more independant, and i certanly do not advocate a not pursueing a full education or profession.

However as Muslims we must respect our relgious boundaris aswell, whcih are set merely for our own benefits.

Going to Mixed Colleg Or University itself is not an wrong thing.

However, one does not need to go to a foreign far away location if they can get the same at thier home location.

If A Girl has to go to foreign location for education, then its strongly recomended she does so when she is mature and accompanied by someone, or atleast has relatives or family there to look after or support her once she gets there.

Peace.

[Mirch]

@CM

Amir Pindi and PM the Holy Prophet (SAW) said “Seek Knowledge whether you have to go to China” and the chinese are kufar. So when education is given so much importance by the Holy Prophet that we should even learn from the Kufar who are you to judge otherwise?

A girl has every right to a decent if not brilliant education regardless of where she is living. Dorms are usually walls gender based and never co-ed. So its not an issue. Plus you should trust these ladies as after all they will be mothers and house wives some day.

@amir_pindi

PM nice one..

CM… Nabi pak did indeed say go to china for knwoledge. But note he did say knowledge and not specifically education; education can be gained anywhere.
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And Nabi Pak always advised us to avoid mixing of anykind with the opposite sex and avoiding adverse/inapprpriate enviroments if we could.
And it doesnt mean to do one halaal thing you comrpimise on another haram or makroo (disliked) thing

If Nabi Pak was alive at that time and there was some education in China that was not unavaleble in Arabia, I think he would advise a girl or anybody to and learn it and stay at home.

Th Bottom Line is that:

Un-matured Girls shud not be sent to study in a far off place on thier own.

And when its in a less islamic enviroment, i,.e West, the above applies even more.

I was shocked to know that this hadees quoted about going to China for education by two of you is not sahih. Here is some discussion on it:
Seek Knowledge as Far as China… Really? | MuslimMatters.org

[amir_pindi]

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Hey Really..... mirch

That is very interesting and helpful of you to highlight

Il be reading that

[amir_pindi]

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Lol CM just tried being clever by copying that hadith off another members post in another recent thread

hahaha

bad try cm.