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No way.
Thanks for the advice,
I was gonna do one ne way as I know how my dd would love it, it's a one off I can't see how she would b going on a daily weekly bases,
On eid I put mehndi on her n nail vanish, n she knows it for a special occassion, I don't think it will put any sterotypical thoughts in her head as she still jumps about plays with her brothers, laughs like 5 yr should. Loves Reading n writing not forgetting the countless amounts of drawing and not forgetting wrestling n cricket.
And where it says make up, haven't u ppl got face painting done on children, and for heavens above surely anyone will know and c that these lil 5 yr olds won't b having full blown bridal make up o facials. When I was in pak I had my pedicure done I took my daughter with her cousin n the got there nails painted they thought they had a pedicure done. It was a random moment, they jus felt Girly and special but as soon as we left the salon they soon forgot about what they had done and off they were playing.
I dnt mean to offend ne one here I asked for advice and got, each to there own and that
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i'd not have issues if "pamper" meant actual age-appropriate pampering. what worries me is the use of pedicures/manicures/facials etc as special occasion rewards opening up doorways to gender stereotyping peer pressure, the ugly world of beauty products and brand names, mental blocks towards certain useful activities, sports and even subjects, aversion towards being tough, picking friends based on looks/outfits etc. it is bad enough with the media's gender biases blasted at us everywhere.
i do feel girls can naturally be girly girls or tomboys, and that it isn't fair to impose restrictions on what form of play they prefer to indulge in. but i also think it is unfair to encourage them into this sort of "mimicking grownups" fun. it does not strike me as the same thing as being a girly girl, imho. and i dont see how it is at par with a bouncy castle or a petting zoo. a child's curiosity and memory are powerful things, i'd want them directed at positive influences as much as i can control it, which might not be all that long.
maybe i'm over-thinking it. and like someone said one pamper party wouldnt have any lasting impact. i'd only be comfortable sending her if she's well exposed to the joys of bugs, dirt, chasing after balls, rainwater puddles etc. lipstick shmipstick.. that is not what childhood's happiest moments should be about. definitely not at the age of 5. you are gonna lose your kid to this world anyway once she's a bit older.
(this stuff bugs me tons, i didnt mean to offend anyone)
THIS!!!
Also, will no boys be invited to the party? I would save this type of stuff (sounds like a sleepover/jimjam party to me) for when she is older. Five year old children should be allowed to be carefree and use their imaginations not think about their hair and make up.
Not really related, but it makes you think about why stores such as A&F bring out bikinis for 6 year olds, cos some parents embrace it.
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no way. and i wouldn't want my kid befriending kids whose parents think this is acceptable or a good idea. nor would i want to be friends with such parents.
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as long as it wasn't a Toddlers & Tiaras type of trainwreck,I'd be okay with the occasional mini beauty fest...
but seeing as I'm a mom of 3 boys, not something I'll really ever have to deal with ;)
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but mils, i think when they're older it has more of an impact on them and thinking that this is something that must be done on a regular basis than when they are 5. a 12 year old will be more aware of her looks, her clothes, her friends and i think it would have a lasting impact on her whereas to a 5 year old its just a fun party. i guess i'm confused too because based on a previous discussion here, it seemed a lot of moms would be ok with waxing/threading their daughters at 10 and, to me, that seems a far more mature and adult thing than indulging their love of lip gloss and nail polish.
queer, i totally get your point. a friend of mine has a daughter who just turned 10 and she chose to have her party at reptilia (where they got to handle snakes and bugs etc.) before having a pizza lunch. someone like her wouldn't be interested in a pamper party to begin with so if she were to attend one, i don't know that it would really do much to change her opinions about herself.
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smg - it says a lot about the parents/mother to me.
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As I teach 5 and 6 year olds and have taught 3, 4, 7, 8, 9 and 10 year olds, for me I see some young children having to worry about their self image way before they should. To me, childhood should be about being a free spirit, imagination, saying whatever you want to say and looking however you want to look without having to fit into a box. It's bad enough that these days parents pressure other parents into the whole 'technology' craze by buying their 4 year olds iTouchs and iPads. For me, these things take away childhood. Im all for technology, I really am, but when my 5 year old boys replicate COD in the playground as they dont know how to use their imaginations to play pirates or be explorers, it worries me a lot. Even playdough doesnt excite these kids and it's not 3D and it can't kill someone.
The waxing/threading issue is different as it is personal hygiene that is the focus and it's not for everyone to share, this is a birthday party.
Make up and hair and nails are not essential for 5 year olds IMO and they can wait to see to excitement they bring.
I think it's the whole inviting others the share it to celebrate a birthday that worries me more. I would put vaseline on my 4 year old cousin and tell her it was magic lipgloss that would change colour but only she and I could see it, the mirror and no one could cos they didn't have any. She accepted that, children are quite easy to manipualte, you just need to know how. I've managed to convince 30 5 year olds that Pingu and Buzzlightyear are watching their every move.
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You can’t choose your children friends even at a young age,
What does it say about the parent to you from a having a pamper party???
Do you not have any daughters that do not like to play dress up etc.
Do you not put braids in there hair o bows, o clips o hair bands, oh is it a simple pony tail with a rubber band. 
With your daughters if any:
do you not bake with them, or let them make a chapati o roll one out that is, and if they have dolls aren’t these putting ideas into their heads, to have babies etc.
As to your comment you wouldn’t want to befriend a parent with such thoughts of having a pamper party! I find that quite rude and offensive personally, as I’m sure ur not a text book mother and have bought your children up to the highest standard that you can with your on thoughts and teachings.. Do you allow your children to mix with other races and other genders isn’t that putting ideas into children’s heads.
What ppl are forgettin it’s a one off, it’s her 5th birthday party and it’s something different which I know her friends would like, yes I do dress my children in girly outfits but that’s their choice. Yes I would rather prefer her to look nice than a scruff bag, as I wouldnt want anyone thinkin I didn’t know how to dress o look after her. That doesn’t make me a bad mother o a shallow one!
I have and will inshallah give my daughter a lot of opportunities in life to make it enjoyable and not jus a standard get up, go school, come home watch tv and go bed life.
Having a pamper party for her at her age, makes no difference to the type of mother I am, it will make her feel special and a princess for a day surely there is no harm in that. No I wont b dragging her to modelling agency o to the local Boots store to buy her a loAd of toiletries etc.
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Life is to short for a regimental regime !
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Why are you asking people if they'd allow it if you don't like the answers?
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i'd not have issues if "pamper" meant actual age-appropriate pampering. what worries me is the use of pedicures/manicures/facials etc as special occasion rewards opening up doorways to gender stereotyping peer pressure, the ugly world of beauty products and brand names, mental blocks towards certain useful activities, sports and even subjects, aversion towards being tough, picking friends based on looks/outfits etc. it is bad enough with the media's gender biases blasted at us everywhere.
i do feel girls can naturally be girly girls or tomboys, and that it isn't fair to impose restrictions on what form of play they prefer to indulge in. but i also think it is unfair to encourage them into this sort of "mimicking grownups" fun. it does not strike me as the same thing as being a girly girl, imho. and i dont see how it is at par with a bouncy castle or a petting zoo. a child's curiosity and memory are powerful things, i'd want them directed at positive influences as much as i can control it, which might not be all that long.
maybe i'm over-thinking it. and like someone said one pamper party wouldnt have any lasting impact. i'd only be comfortable sending her if she's well exposed to the joys of bugs, dirt, chasing after balls, rainwater puddles etc. lipstick shmipstick.. that is not what childhood's happiest moments should be about. definitely not at the age of 5. you are gonna lose your kid to this world anyway once she's a bit older.
(this stuff bugs me tons, i didnt mean to offend anyone)
Age appropriate....well that's the big thing missing these days. :(
Why are you asking people if they'd allow it if you don't like the answers?
It's not about you saying no it's the way u said says alot about the parent?? Which is what !
After Reading my comment u couldn't even justify ur stone aged one!
Also stoppit if u read the thread I did say I’d like a opinion n to futher that I said thanks to everyones advice etc etc my 2nd post on this thread
What’s got my bak up is your backward village one liner thinking!
But like I said before each to there own 
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i too think 5 is young for this theme. u can do a gymnastic, art (paint a shirt, make a bracelet, build a bear or doing ceramic/pottery theme)or dance, ice-skating b-day party. we did a swim and gym theme for my daughters 7th b-day and even though it was fun u need 3-4 parent volunteers for that.