Palmistry

Hi Gs friends

i had a Q for all of ya…Kya islam mein hath parna yah kissi ko apna haath dikhana jaayez hey? yah nahee? Agar nahee to kyuu nahee?

TV chanels pe aaj kal tarot cards bhi pick karte hein is tht okay or not?
And if not why not?

Me in person don’t believe in tarot lekin i’m wondering bout palmistry
so if i’m doin something wrong tell me

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i don't know about the exact reference but it is forbidden in islam
because it all works on guess work

these are sometime correct because , most people use them as database intelligence, ie one thing happen with 1000 peoples and somehow they share the same shape of line on palm so the next person with that similar line should also go through that phase etc

but that is not more then 50 % correct

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Any practice which falls under fortune telling and claiming to know Ilm-e-Ghaib is haraam in Islam. Palmistry, Astrology etc

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Activities like these are silly and a waste of time, hence we are told to steer clear:

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وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَنْ يَشْتَرِي *لَهْوَ الْحَدِيثِ *لِيُضِلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَهَا هُزُوًا أُولَئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُهِينٌ

YUSUFALI: But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty.
PICKTHAL: And of mankind is he who payeth for mere pastime of discourse, that he may mislead from Allah's way without knowledge, and maketh it the butt of mockery. For such there is a shameful doom.
SHAKIR: And of men is he who **takes instead frivolous discourse **to lead astray from Allah's path without knowledge, and to take it for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement.

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although i know claiming to know Ilm e Ghaib is haram in islam

i want to ask a irrelevent question that is
what is the point of view on database intelligence

ie in normall companies software with database intelligence are installed
by knowing the trends and activities they help in future management and they are mostly very accurate
should we call them as Ilm e Ghaib as well and should we call them haram as well

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Database intelligence analyzes past trends in data and, using the assumption that future activity will follow past trends, shows what will happen if past trends repeat. Models never claim to predict the future; they show what happens if past trends repeat.

The features of your palm, on the other hand, are based on random combinations of deoxyribose nucleic acid base pairs during fertilisation and embryo development. These chemicals do not pair up depending on what will happen in your future life; nor does your future life depend on the way chemicals paired up in the past.

Palm readers claim to know that which only Allah knows; hence the haraam factor.

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Hazrat Ali (rehmatulaah) adviced not to indulge oneself in activities such as palmistry and fortune telling .. b/e it is a kind of shirk , no one in this world is as great as Allah - to know the future etc.

and for your satisfaction , a friend of mine saw and depicted those things which were somehow connected wid my life

on the other hand another girl depicted something that never ever existed in my life and she herself said that she could read palms better than every one else

the point in telling you is this that ppl make guesses , some of them just happen to be true . wat actually will happen is known by Allah only .

According to Hazrat Ali ... main nay apnay riub ko apnay iradoon kay tootnay say pehchana

Re: Palmistry

Hazrat Ali (rehmatulaah) adviced not to indulge oneself in activities such as palmistry and fortune telling .. b/e it is a kind of shirk , no one in this world is as great as Allah - to know the future etc.

and for your satisfaction , a friend of mine saw and depicted those things which were somehow connected wid my life

on the other hand another girl depicted something that never ever existed in my life and she herself said that she could read palms better than every one else

the point in telling you is this that ppl make guesses , some of them just happen to be true . wat actually will happen is known by Allah only .

According to Hazrat Ali ... main nay apnay riub ko apnay iradoon kay tootnay say pehchana

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Just to clarify. Ilm of fortune telling exist in true form, with the will of Allah SWT. Because it exist, that is why it is restricted.

Quran and Hadees talk about the incident when fortune tellers of Pheros predicted the birth of a boy (moses) who will over turn the kingdom of pheros.

One form of fortune telling is allowed in Islam (if you call it fortune telling) is the interpratation of dreams. But that should only be done by a very knowledgable person.

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^ohh yes , fortune telling also possible through witchcraft, though forbidden ,
there is another waqiya , heard it from some one :slight_smile: not sure about it ,
a women from some distant branch of quraish with her witch craft found out that Hazrat Muhammad :saw: will be the son of Hazrat Abdullah . before his birth ,
she tried her best and many times proposed Hazrat Abdullah , so that his son would be hers.
but some how he refused :slight_smile:

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:salam:

All I will say is that statistical predictions on data and patterns is different from fortune-telling, which has no data gathering and study involved. As long as people understand this difference, all is merry and well otherwise we will have to carry our unmberallas with us all the time.

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fortune telling based on stars and how they impact human lives, effect of one's birthday zodiac signs and our own lines on our palms, as well as picked tarot card readings are means of collecting the combined effect of the past and how it will shape a predictable future.
they are by no means conclusive, yet sometimes, it is unmistakeable to note their accuracy even if it is per chance.

of course, realistic appraisal of one's own life situation and one's most likely possible future situation relies on one's strengths and how one contains the extrenal factors, by being consistent in one's values and principles.

and finally, that what is destined to happen will happen, after all is said and done.

Dushwari

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similary people who believe in palmistry use to claim that same event happend to group of people having thoes certain lines and based on this assumption a person having falan falan line will pass through such event

based on this claim it is very very close to database intelligence
doesn't it