Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
this news is false otherwise it would have been on headlines on cnn, bbc .......
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
It's 3 years old, working on link.
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Then provide the link from the Washington Times, and other mainstream (not second hand links) news sites to back up your allegations. Otherwise you are just telling big white lies.
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
This report is widely contested
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Well since the Palestinians act like animals, its safe to assume that this report is probably true.
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Since the Washingtion Times was quoting religious figures I'd take their word.
and lostsoul the report is not being contested at all, just being told in another manner.
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
muslims don't use toilet paper...they use water...
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
First, show us your link from the Washington Times, and then show us links from other mainstream sites e.g. CNN, NYTimes, Reuters, USA Today etc that corroborate this story. I have an open mind, and just want to see the proof of your allegations.
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
All accopunt of Bible descration is un-sourced. “Some priests” say this and that.
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Even in the Roman Catholic areas of the complex there was evidence of disregard for religious norms. Catholic priests said that some Bibles were torn up for toilet paper, and many valuable sacramental objects were removed. “Palestianians took candelabra, Icons and anything that looked like gold,” said a Franciscan, the Rev. Nicholas Marquez from Mexico.
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You can’t accuse things like that without naming names.
This report is piece of junk
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Well, it’s actually quite a well laid out lie, and UTD might not have made it flow so well…
When you bring the refuge seekers to near starvation, hey, Muslims are allowed to drink alcohol and eat pork…It’s a matter of survival…
Perhaps you also don’t know that IDF had cut off water, food and medicine to the beleaguered monastery, so not only were they thirsty and starved, they were being slowly exterminated…
Here is an eyewitness account of what happened, not the propaganda lies that UTI is spreading:
I [Amjad Sabarra] am a Palestinian from Jerusalem’s Old City and a member of the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land. Ordained to the priesthood in June 1992, I serve as the Roman Catholic pastor of the world’s oldest parish: Bethlehem’s Basilica of the Nativity of Our Lord.
Thirty other friars, four Catholic nuns, nine Greek Orthodox monks, five Armenian monks and I were caught by surprise last spring during the 39-day siege of the basilica and its adjoining buildings.
On the morning of April 2, 2002, 10 armed Palestinian men wandered into the basilica. Father Ibrahim Faltas, O.F.M., and I approached them and explained that we do not allow arms in the basilica and that they would have to leave. They did so quietly and politely. We then bolted the front door of the church.
Around 3 p.m. we heard a lot of gunfire, and yelling in and near the basilica. We quickly entered the church to find several hundred Palestinians running into the nave of the basilica with several dozen men carrying guns and semi-automatics. Apparently, they had broken the front door of the church.
There was absolutely no way that we could have stopped them or even tried to persuade them to leave. Israeli soldiers were shooting outside, and the Palestinians were inside. We had no choice but to give them sanctuary and protection.
http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Aug2002/Feature1.asp
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Washington Times is right wing paper.
La TImes is not. Its report is nothing compared to Wtimes
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Lajo, do you remember when Terrorists back by Khomeni took over Kaba? Do you really think anything is sacred to them?
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Since that is quoting religious figures I’d take their word. 
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
It was the sacredness of the Kaaba for them that they didn’t care for the sacredness of their lives…It was wrong, it was bloody, the Paki soldiers took care of them, it was a stupid act…But it was done out of passion of sacredness for the Kaaba…
An act for which they deserved death no doubt, but an act that must be respected…
You don’t take over the Kaaba not knowing you won’t die…
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Lajo… Can you tell me which side of the mouth you are talking from?… good thing, but deserved to die? Can you make up my mind?
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
That’s like flogging a dead horse…
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Soon after the siege began, conditions inside started to deteriorate. It was impossible to move out the dead bodies, and rubbish began to pile up, leading to fears that there would be an outbreak of disease. Wells inside the compound provided drinking water, but there was never enough to wash in.
After about a week, food began to run short, and for the last two weeks the residents have been surviving on a daily ration of watery soup made from boiled leaves, and a third of a biscuit.
This is a report of the conditions in the church, it speaks of the same things, food running short, rubbish, and deteriorating conditions as 250 people, mostly men, occupied a church for 39 days. As supplies ran out almost immediately, is it so hard to beleive that a bible was used, particularly when no water was available for washing? From the Guardian, a source very sympathetic to the Palestinians. More than likely the “bible” atrocities were self edited by left wing writers sympathetic to the Palestinians. The Washington Times may be right wing, but it has never had problems with factual presentations in its paper.
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/siege/etc/cron.html
More…
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
^^
OhioGuy,
I can find right wing papers in Pakistan, which describe jews and americans kill and chew muslim children all the times.
You might have WATimes a bit better, but it should specificy its source of bible desecration specifically by names, instead of "catholic priests"
If this is standard of reporting, then i can make anyting out of any incident.
You should not be that much blind sighted in ur "attempt to show that muslims also trash bible"
Re: Muslims Used Bible as Toilet Paper, Stole Sacramental Objects.
Give me one reliable source which says bible was trashed in the church.