Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
BTW who initiated the Gawadar Port Project? Politicians or Our "Be-loved" Mushy.
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
It is true what he is telling. But at the same time he might be telling this (when the government already knows that gwadar has its impact) just to get more money sanctioned quickly to buy weapons...eg:- He might be making the government to compromise or shell out more money for AC admiral gorshkov or vikramaditya!
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
INSHALLAH, Mush wont live forever...
merey bhai wo nahee rahey ga, laiken jo gand is ney machaya hey usey saaf kerney men aik nasal barbad ho jaey gee.
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Fortunately so far this is not the case!. Do not be so pessimistic.
Im always optomistic... Why else would I perdict Mushies downfall right after the elections:)
As for investment... We really havent seen the kind of investment we need...
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
merey bhai wo nahee rahey ga, laiken jo gand is ney machaya hey usey saaf kerney men aik nasal barbad ho jaey gee.
Thats true... But hopefully, this time around, the govt in power will be allowed to stay in power and the democratic process allowed to continue until Mushies Gand in is all cleared up...
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Yet again you MQM wallahs refuse to belive any facts that go against your dictator.
The Gwadar feasibility study was started in 1993, by NS, long before Mush was in power. Construction started in 2002, with PM Shaukat Aziz pushing for it.
The groundwork was started in the 90's govts, a simple fact, it does not whether you belive it or not.
Thats true... These people will attribut everything to Mushie, even the rain.
Honestly, you read these peoples posts, and anything good thats happened is because of Mush, and anything bad that happened is because of the politicians that came before him!
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Y-------- ----The Gwadar feasibility study was started in 1993, by NS, --- Construction started in 2002, with PM Shaukat Aziz pushing for it. -----The groundwork was started in the 90's govts, .
Great. So the credit of starting the Gwadar project goes to "government in the 90s".
Then we must be generous enough to give itsy bitsy teeny weeny credit for "continuing the Gwadar project" through 2007 to people who are running the government in 2007.
And you know what, if you want to name Gwadar to Sharifsport (Sharivport), or Nawazport, I'm fine with that. As it sounds much better than Pervezport or Altafport.
Happy now :D?
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
All of India has Strategic Implications for Pakistan............:)
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
fakedeal is a PPP supporter so you couldn't expect much of it. He is probably doing a feasibility study on his stool.. GO FIGURE!! :D
Better a PAKISTANI PEOPLES PARTY supporter then a supporter of a gang of criminal thugs led by a traitor... Aka the MQM...
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Great. So the credit of starting the Gwadar project goes to "government in the 90s".
Then we must be generous enough to give itsy bitsy teeny weeny credit for "continuing the Gwadar project" through 2007 to people who are running the government in 2007.
And you know what, if you want to name Gwadar to Sharifsport (Sharivport), or Nawazport, I'm fine with that. As it sounds much better than Pervezport or Altafport.
Happy now :D?
As long as you admit that Mush had nothing to do with it, our purpose is served...
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
I have a heard a lot of Pakistanis say they keep getting snubbed by US after playing sidekick. Every time there is a conflict between US interest and Pakistani interest, the US interest always overrides.
Why would it be different with China? Seems to me that if major programs within Pakistan are prioritized based on what the Chinese interests are, isn't the same failed story that will repeat, except at the hands of the Chinese instead of Americans?
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
I have a heard a lot of Pakistanis say they keep getting snubbed by US after playing sidekick. Every time there is a conflict between US interest and Pakistani interest, the US interest always overrides.
Why would it be different with China? Seems to me that if major programs within Pakistan are prioritized based on what the Chinese interests are, isn't the same failed story that will repeat, except at the hands of the Chinese instead of Americans?
Oh crasy, don't get bogged down in leftie liberal propaganda mud.
USA gives out contracts for a project to the one who can get the job done. Once the contract is over, it is over.
If Microsoft gets a Banglore company to make a piece of software in 2 years, and then ends the contract after the software is complete. Would you go on complaing about microsoft?
No.
You my dear Indian will simply bow your head or shake it sideways and start looking for the next contract.
That's how the world goes around.
Pakistan has been getting contracts to cursh commies. Once the commies are crushed, that contract is over.
Now we have contract to crush Qaida or Talibans. Once they are done, our contract will be over.
Then off course Pakistani lefties will moan and groan and spread false rumors against Pak-USA relationship.
But then it is the same behavior as those of Indian commies who moan and groan about how Indian poor is being crushed by the big bad West. Then you as an Indian, believe in Indian Commies? Right?
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Oh crasy, don't get bogged down in leftie liberal propaganda mud.
*USA gives out contracts for a project to the one who can get the job done. Once the contract is over, it is over. *
If Microsoft gets a Banglore company to make a piece of software in 2 years, and then ends the contract after the software is complete. Would you go on complaing about microsoft?
No.
You my dear Indian will simply bow your head or shake it sideways and start looking for the next contract.
That's how the world goes around.
*Pakistan has been getting contracts to cursh commies. Once the commies are crushed, that contract is over. *
*Now we have contract to crush Qaida or Talibans. Once they are done, our contract will be over. *
Then off course Pakistani lefties will moan and groan and spread false rumors against Pak-USA relationship.
But then it is the same behavior as those of Indian commies who moan and groan about how Indian poor is being crushed by the big bad West. Then you as an Indian, believe in Indian Commies? Right?
so if a time comes again when america gives a contract to pakistan to crush commies(this time the all weather friend of pakistanis), pakistan will accept it???....as per you it should as it is a contract!
I wouldn't be surprised if musharraf does that also. just like he took a u-turn to taliban, he could do that to his best buddy at the behest of US of A. and that all weather friend in reality triggered/forced lal masjid incident which has led to this chaos.
Re: Pak’s new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Absolutely spot on. :k:
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
so if a time comes again when america gives a contract to pakistan to crush commies(this time the all weather friend of pakistanis), pakistan will accept it???....as per you it should as it is a contract!
I wouldn't be surprised if musharraf does that also. just like he took a u-turn to taliban, he could do that to his best buddy at the behest of US of A. and that all weather friend in reality triggered/forced lal masjid incident which has led to this chaos.
Funny you bring Chinese and commies in this discussion.
Singh bro! Chinese are working 24 hours filling Wal Mart's shelves and you want to call them commies.
In fact Indians would love to snatch the Walmart contracts from Chinese. It is just that Chinese have turned damn good capitalists! Much better than neo-capitalists Indians. :)
If you truly want to harp on the Chinese past, then Indians are still living under commie Nehruvian system.
So keep your thoughts squared, and you will be alright.
p.s. Contract means "mutual acceptable" document. Carter's contract was refused by Gen. Zia. Reagan offered a much much better deal and the contract was accepted by Pakistan.
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Funny you bring Chinese and commies in this discussion.
Singh bro! Chinese are working 24 hours filling Wal Mart's shelves and you want to call them commies.
In fact Indians would love to snatch the Walmart contracts from Chinese. It is just that Chinese have turned damn good capitalists! Much better than neo-capitalists Indians. :)
If you truly want to harp on the Chinese past, then Indians are still living under commie Nehruvian system.
So keep your thoughts squared, and you will be alright.
p.s. Contract means "mutual acceptable" document. Carter's contract was refused by Gen. Zia. Reagan offered a much much better deal and the contract was accepted by Pakistan.
Now you are arguing for the sake of just to prove your point. and Funny you are trying to tell that US government considers chinese commies as their friend/partners just because they have turned into better capitalists than indians. So it is u who needs to keep your thoughts squared and u should be alright.:)
THough i agree that contract is something which is mutually agreed
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
so if a time comes again when america gives a contract to pakistan to crush commies(this time the all weather friend of pakistanis), pakistan will accept it???....as per you it should as it is a contract!
I wouldn't be surprised if musharraf does that also. just like he took a u-turn to taliban, he could do that to his best buddy at the behest of US of A. and that all weather friend in reality triggered/forced lal masjid incident which has led to this chaos.
Well, the Chinese can hardly be considered Commies in the classical sense... I mean that outdated thinking to say the least...
And with Chinas influence in Asia, no Asian countries would dare openly side with America against China...
Chinese are smart little devils... They know how to play the game. Granted they are a bit rusty after being down for hundreds of years, but they are catching up fast.
I think Pakistan, if it does continue it reliance on outside powers, will eventually look to China at the expense of the US...
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Now you are arguing for the sake of just to prove your point. and Funny you are trying to tell that US government considers chinese commies as their friend/partners just because they have turned into better capitalists than indians. So it is u who needs to keep your thoughts squared and u should be alright.:)
THough i agree that contract is something which is mutually agreed
Singh bro! If USA wanted to attack China, it would have done so many years ago.
You don't feed and country, make it fat (Chinese are getting fatter! Literally!) and then go to war.
US policy has always been trade instead of invade. Invasion has only come when all its efforts for trade and friendship were unsuccessful.
Similarly USA will not attack India as long as Banglore is churning out software, or Bombay will not be bombed as long as India is taking care of the 1040.
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
Oh crasy, don't get bogged down in leftie liberal propaganda mud.
USA gives out contracts for a project to the one who can get the job done. Once the contract is over, it is over.
If Microsoft gets a Banglore company to make a piece of software in 2 years, and then ends the contract after the software is complete. Would you go on complaing about microsoft?
No.
You my dear Indian will simply bow your head or shake it sideways and start looking for the next contract.
That's how the world goes around.
Pakistan has been getting contracts to cursh commies. Once the commies are crushed, that contract is over.
Now we have contract to crush Qaida or Talibans. Once they are done, our contract will be over.
Then off course Pakistani lefties will moan and groan and spread false rumors against Pak-USA relationship.
But then it is the same behavior as those of Indian commies who moan and groan about how Indian poor is being crushed by the big bad West. Then you as an Indian, believe in Indian Commies? Right?
These are a number of assumptions.
Microsoft does not give out contracts to any companies to write software. (Don't even try to argue this :) ).
Indians never bow their head and walk away silently when any contract is not renewed. They fight and get it renewed.
It is not just amongst Pakistanis but also in a few knowledgeable US minds that aid to Pakistan cannot be stopped like so many contractual payments.
But yes it is all business. Difference is, a good business man knows a business is bigger than any one transaction.
Re: Pak's new port has strategic implications for India: Navy chief
These are a number of assumptions.
Microsoft does not give out contracts to any companies to write software. (Don't even try to argue this :) ).
Indians never bow their head and walk away silently when any contract is not renewed. They fight and get it renewed.
It is not just amongst Pakistanis but also in a few knowledgeable US minds that aid to Pakistan cannot be stopped like so many contractual payments.
But yes it is all business. Difference is, a good business man knows a business is bigger than any one transaction.
Crasy bro, Microsoft (or IT related) for India, and Walmart (retail manufacturing related) for China are just figure of speech. Do not get hung up on these.
Take your favorite IT outsourcing company and replace Microsoft with it.
Take your favorite retail manufacture outsourcing company and replace Walmart with it.
And yes Indian or Chinese or Pakistanis all should bow their head to the person who gives them $$$.
Bowing head is just to respect others. Look at Japanese, they do a Rakooh (Namaz stance for Pakistani Muslims) every time they meet someone. Does that change their self respect. Heck no! Japanese are among the fiercest people in Asia.
I thought you were a good ole BMW driving, neo-capitalist Indian who is smart enough to understand this. May be! May be not!