sami and faisal iqbal? i don't think it's wise choosing sami when all he'll do is give away prceless runs and not have many wickets under his belt which matter! and faisal iqbal {miandad's nephew?} doesn't have a good technique althogh not as bad as chopra's but he can only make good contributio in pak doemstic circuit in australisif he get's a chance he'll be totally humbled by gillespie. kaspo' etc
we should;ve chose 2 keepers if kami gets injured to try a part timer like younis won't be ideal against the world champs'.
i feel for azhar mehmood he is always on the sidelines some one who performs well isn't considered and someone who on current form doesn't even merit selection is always picked {SAMI! who else}
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wat I fail to understand is why doesnt Azhar Mehmood get a chance in the team. He has been performing exceptionally well in England at the county level. Yet when the team was there for the ICC Knock out tournament he was not given a chance to play even though he is probably more familiar with the condition. I know we have 2 good all rounders in Shoaib and Razzaq...but i think its unfair to azhar.
Opinions???
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sami and faisal iqbal? i don't think it's wise choosing sami when all he'll do is give away prceless runs and not have many wickets under his belt which matter! and faisal iqbal {miandad's nephew?} doesn't have a good technique althogh not as bad as chopra's but he can only make good contributio in pak doemstic circuit in australisif he get's a chance he'll be totally humbled by gillespie. kaspo' etc
we should;ve chose 2 keepers if kami gets injured to try a part timer like younis won't be ideal against the world champs'.
i feel for azhar mehmood he is always on the sidelines some one who performs well isn't considered and someone who on current form doesn't even merit selection is always picked {SAMI! who else}
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No place for Azhar Mehmood in ODI, he is not test material!
Sami is going through a bad patch, we didn't have any decent bolwer to replace sami, Umer Gul or Shabbir would have replaced sami if they were healthy other bowlers don't have ODI/Test experience. I wish Abdul Rauf was given a chance he is only 25 and can swing the ball both ways.
Don't for get Yasir Hammed & Taufeeq Umar both can WK, I am not in favor of taking Younis Khan but I know he will be selected (ass kisser), I would rather have Fasial Iqbal, Misbah or Asim Kamal in the team.
ODI Squad
1) Salman Butt
2) Yasir Hameed / Taufeeq Umer
3) Shoaib Malik
4) Inzi
5) Yohanna
6) Shahid Afridi
7) Abdul Razzaq
8) Kamral Akmal
9) Mohd Sami
10) Shoaib Akhtar
11) Shabbir Ahmed
Test Squad
1) Taufeeq Umer
2) Yasir Hameed
3) Fasial Iqbal
4) Inzi
5) Yohanna
6) Shoaib Malik
7) Kamran Akmal
8) Mohd Sami
9) Shoaib Akhtar
10) Shabbir Ahmed
11) Danish Kaneria
sami has talent but he needs to be kicked out of the ausies series because his bad patch is becoming way too long. take abdul rauf and riaz afridi. although i would prefer rao ifthikar anjum over riaz, he needs to be given another chance at international cricket. he only played one ODI(i think)
If one ask me to choose opener for next 5-7 years I will go for Salman and Taufeeq. I will not give Yasir and Farhat a second thought. But thats why nobody asks me to choose the team:hehe:
But seriously, Yasir is too shaky and Farhat is our Sehwag. We need cool minded, calmed openers who can block, leave the balls and play stroke as per requirements. Salman and Taufeeq are the right answer.
Taufeeq deserves more chances, his fearlessness and confidence reminds me of Amir Sohail. Yes, he shuffles across more than other players, but hey everyone has weaknesses and he can improve. All he needs is backing from Captain/Coach and you will he will emerge as a rock-solid opener for years. Both guys are young, energetic and are not hot tempered who can easily flirt with the balls outside offstumps, when bowler urge them. Building a solid innings is the cry of today. At one down we have likes of Malik and then Inzi, Yoyo to further cement the innings if we have a good start. Both can improve with more experience. Yasir could come in tests at one down if we need to play him and move Yonis/malik etc at 6 and 7. But Farhat is a big no no for me. We are wasting one very important position. He is not the future in that position. Likes of Salman and Taufeeq can be played at that spot if we are anticipating 50% sucess anyways. These guys have potential as long term openners, instead of parchi baaz Farhat.
^ It seems that it doesnt matter how many runs Farhat or Yasr score, you will not be satisfied with them and how many failures Taufeeq suffer you will never doubt him. We saw Taufeeq's fearlessness in series against India at home. I agree he is a very good player and I would ahve him in the team if he is performing well but other guys have earned the place in the team due to performances so give credit where its due. I am happy that we got good backups in opening department.
A Good enough squad. Pakistan needed continuity in WK department and they needed not to bring Moin back and thankfully they didnt. Yes Rashid could have made a comeback but anyways.
Its my hunch that Mohammad Khalil Left Arm fast could be our replacment for Waseem Akram. I keep saying Left Arm Fast
and that could be our key.
India had the right idea in grooming Pathaan and Sri Lanka in Vaas
and Mahroof (I think thats the name of the Left armer) + 1 more.
No body knows precisely and technically how it works but a *Left arm bowler with correct line and a natural seamer hits the deck in spots where the ball swings in or leaves the batsman almost at will of the bowler. The price ball is to the left arm batsman when the ball swings in
and cramps the batsman to the crease and either traps him LBW or hits him the loin area,as long as the Left Arm Fast bowler has the speed and the ability to swing the ball and does it OVER THE WICKET time after time,Thats the Key imo :k:
If Mohammad Khalil does this and has caught the scouter’s eye then so be it..I’ll be watching him keenly more than my own curiosity
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^ It seems that it doesnt matter how many runs Farhat or Yasr score, you will not be satisfied with them and how many failures Taufeeq suffer you will never doubt him. We saw Taufeeq's fearlessness in series against India at home. I agree he is a very good player and I would ahve him in the team if he is performing well but other guys have earned the place in the team due to performances so give credit where its due. I am happy that we got good backups in opening department.
A Good enough squad. Pakistan needed continuity in WK department and they needed not to bring Moin back and thankfully they didnt. Yes Rashid could have made a comeback but anyways.
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The thing in common in Taufeeq and Salman is that they don't look shaky regardless of the conditions and circumtances. I liked Yasir when he was doing well against BD but after that he became Mohsin Khan. If you watch him on TV you will see how nervous he looks and some times he can't keep an eye on the ball till last second. I will search for the pic that someone posted on another site in which the ball has not reached his bat but his eyes are closed, like he has made his decision where he is going to place the ball and also that the ball will not swing away after he shuts off his eyes. On the other hand Farhat is just an ordinary player. Take the whole lot of openners that we have or the ones that are waiting in domestic teams, they can do exact the same thing. 20 runs every game and a 50 every fifth game.
My point is instead of wasting time on blockheads like these two, we should concerntrate on those who are more selective in their shot selection and have patience. There is nothing we are losing in this case so why don't we give it a shot.
The idea is to persist with them rather than flip/flop the team. and for what you think of those two, they are really talented players and something tells me they are here for a long time.
this will be a long gruelling tour, i hope we can play well, we have to stand up and face the oppostion in the face, and after this long tour we have to go to india!!!! so alot of cricket coming up!!!
The thing in common in Taufeeq and Salman is that they don't look shaky regardless of the conditions and circumtances. I liked Yasir when he was doing well against BD but after that he became Mohsin Khan. If you watch him on TV you will see how nervous he looks and some times he can't keep an eye on the ball till last second. I will search for the pic that someone posted on another site in which the ball has not reached his bat but his eyes are closed, like he has made his decision where he is going to place the ball and also that the ball will not swing away after he shuts off his eyes. On the other hand Farhat is just an ordinary player. Take the whole lot of openners that we have or the ones that are waiting in domestic teams, they can do exact the same thing. 20 runs every game and a 50 every fifth game.
My point is instead of wasting time on blockheads like these two, we should concerntrate on those who are more selective in their shot selection and have patience. There is nothing we are losing in this case so why don't we give it a shot.
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I will advise you to look at the highlights or recording of the Last year Triangular series in SL or Pak-India test series with an open mind and you will find how shaky and nervous Taufeeq was throughout his short stays at the wicket. I also thought Taufeeq was not the one to crack under pressure but he did, horribly.
Regarding Farhat and Yasir, both have had better runs than Taufeeq in the last year or so. In a better nick, I will have Taufeeq any day in the team but sadly he has just come back in the team and will take time to settle down.
The thing in common in Taufeeq and Salman is that they don't look shaky regardless of the conditions and circumtances. I liked Yasir when he was doing well against BD but after that he became Mohsin Khan. If you watch him on TV you will see how nervous he looks and some times he can't keep an eye on the ball till last second. I will search for the pic that someone posted on another site in which the ball has not reached his bat but his eyes are closed, like he has made his decision where he is going to place the ball and also that the ball will not swing away after he shuts off his eyes. On the other hand Farhat is just an ordinary player. Take the whole lot of openners that we have or the ones that are waiting in domestic teams, they can do exact the same thing. 20 runs every game and a 50 every fifth game.
My point is instead of wasting time on blockheads like these two, we should concerntrate on those who are more selective in their shot selection and have patience. There is nothing we are losing in this case so why don't we give it a shot.
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Easy for you to say!!
I think these are 2 very good players (i.e. Yasir and Farhat) and they should be given more time in international arena to develope their game. Every time I see Yasir's drive through the cover, I cant imagine anyone else doing it more perfect! he needs to work on his shoulder/arms strength and he will be perfect opener. Farhat should not be coached and simply left alone, let him play his game, he is an opener, he has to take chances. Openers play the new ball, there is no right or wrong when you play the new ball, all that matters is your confidence level and how relaxed your nerves are.
i think pakistan should take salman Butt and yasir hameed because hameed is the best opener we have right now and salman Butt showed the temprament to be a good opener.
I think selector's will select this 15 member squad for aussie tour wht u think guys??
Inzamam-ul Haq (c)
Salman Butt
Yasir Hameed
Imran Farhat or Taufiq Umer
Misbah-ul Haq or Amir Basheer
Yousuf Youhana
Younis Khan
Asim Kamal
Shoaib Malik
Kamran Akmal
Abdul Razzaq
Rana Naveedul Hassan
Danish Kaneria
Shoaib Akhtar
Mohammad Sami
Shabbir Ahmed
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well i just hope we perform up to our abilities and not like the lst tour
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well last odi tour was successful.....pak won that one by 2-1
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