Pakistan's top judge is suspended (Merged)

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How is this Dawn article in anyway pro government genius?

http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/23/op.htm

Even after his death, the government has not refrained from trying to besmirch Bugti’s name and character. In fact, there appears to be a well-orchestrated plan to portray the late Baloch leader as a common criminal. Tales of his cruelty, blackmail, intimidation and murderous traits are being circulated. While some of these colourful stories about Bugti’s personality and character may be true, they have little relevance to the situation created by his death.

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It seems that you are the only blind who cannot see the intimidation of media in Pakistan, journalists have been up in arms about it.

http://www.pakistanpressfoundation.org/usermediafilesdetails.asp?uid=8703

Speaking at a press conference, IFJ President Christopher Warren said the mission was concerned over potential threats to the operation of a free media through the government actions that had promoted cross-media ownership, placed police in positions to regulate media and failed to properly implement independent public service broadcasting.

He was flanked by Iqbal Khatak, country representative of the Paris-based Reporters Without Borders; convenor of Sri Lanka- based Free Media Movement, Sunanda Deshapriya; President Pakistan Federal Union of Journalists Pervez Shaukat and President Rawalpindi-Islamabad Union of Journalists Afzal Butt.

Mr Warren said the continuing killing, kidnapping and harassment of journalists in Pakistan was intolerable and must cease. He pointed out that 20 journalists and media workers in Pakistan had been killed in the past seven years, with four of them murdered in just the past year

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You calling other people stupid makes you the biggest hypocrite on this site

Sitting in Amreeka you may like to believe what your 'uncles' tell you, but as anybody in Pakistan knows, if you are a media person and you try to report on Army corruption, or something serious about Musharraf(apart from a general critique), you will end up as one of the 'disappeared' the former CJ was trying to free.

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Well, from now i'll not post in this thread about press freedom, this thread is about CJ. Open aother thread bout freedom of press and i'll be happy to contribute.

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Reports on the lethal dangers the media face from the Mush govt

Years of Reporting Dangerously
The hype of a free press cannot mask the deadly statistics of a growing band of journalists who have paid with their lives for reporting the truth in the past six years

The media in Pakistan has never been freer, and conditions to practice journalism have rarely been better. That’s been the official refrain these past few years. The truth, however – the very crux of journalism – is starkly different. The statistics tell a deadly tale.

No less than 20 journalists have been recorded killed in Pakistan between January 1, 2000, and November 20, 2006, including one foreigner – The Wall Street Journal’s Daniel Pearl. During this period, there have also been at least 68 recorded cases of arrest or abduction of journalists, 77 cases of torture or injury, 112 cases of explicit threats or intimidation, 20 cases of the media being banned, and at least 24 instances of attacks on media property – in all, 318 cases of various kinds of violence or intimidatory action against the media.

The irony couldn’t be more pronounced: the rising number of murders of and attacks on journalists, the banning of publications and media reports on print, radio, TV and the internet, the shutting down of radio stations, raids on printing presses, institution of cases against journalists and restrictions on media personnel from going about their duties, including aggressively keeping journalists out of large swathes of territory, particularly the tribal areas in the northwest bordering Afghanistan, have all come about against the backdrop of an unprecedented expansion of media space in the country.

Since the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (PEMRA) was set up in 2002 to open up the country’s airwaves to private ownership, over 100 licenses of FM radio stations have been issued to date, of which 62 are currently on air (26 in the Punjab, 19 in Sindh, 11 in the NWFP, two in Balochistan and four in Azad Kashmir), while at least 26 licensed TV channels are operational. Dozens more radio and TV channels are in the pipeline.

The government’s policy of opening up even more space for the private media, particularly in the broadcast sector, is unarguably commendable. And there is nothing to suggest there is an official policy to murder journalists or harass the media. However, what is baffling is why the authorities have been less than forthcoming in issuing clear policy statements denying their complicity in serious cases of press harassment and intimidation, including murder, in which their involvement has been widely and publicly alleged.
In at least two instances the suspicion of the collusion of secret agencies in the abduction or murder of journalists has been accentuated by the disinclination of the authorities to establish their non-involvement.

For instance, on June 16, 2006, the bullet-ridden body of Hayatullah Khan, reporter for the Urdu-language daily Ausaf and photographer for AFP was recovered. Khan had gone missing six months earlier. His disappearance had come as no surprise since he had a history of receiving threats from the government agencies, Taliban and tribal elders alike for his reporting of the clashes between the Pakistani forces and Taliban and Al Qaeda in the tribal areas. He went missing after reporting an explosion in Haisori town of North Waziristan on December 1, 2005. His story contradicted the official version, according to which a senior Al Qaeda commander, Abu Hamza Rabia, had died after an arms depot exploded inside a house. In his reports, Hayatullah quoted locals as claiming the house was hit by an air-launched missile. He photographed pieces of the missile for EPA. The international media identified it as a Hellfire missile fired from an American drone. Many believe Khan was taken away by the military intelligence.
After vociferous demands from the media community, the government formed a tribunal to determine who Hayatullah’s killers were, but its findings have not been made public. There were conflicting statements from government officials throughout the period he remained missing.

His mother and brother say he told them that the government was threatening him. He had reportedly been told to leave journalism or the region, or accept a government job, which he refused at his peril.

Then there is the case of Dilawar Khan Wazir of BBC and national newspaper Dawn who was kidnapped by unidentified persons from Islamabad in the third week of November 2006. The manner of the reporter’s abduction from a taxi as he was travelling from an area near the main office of the Islamabad police, his account of interrogation by his abductors about his work in the tribal areas, his torture – continual blindfolding and bound hands right up to his dumping in a forested area – all bear the distinct imprints of the intelligence agencies. And the casual response of the ministries of interior and information to the media’s barrage of questions has done little to dispel this impression.

Another instance of suspected official involvement in the disappearance of a media person is that of Munir Mengal, the chief of Baloch Voice, a Balochi-language would-be TV channel based in the UAE. Mengal went missing from Karachi soon after he arrived here on a flight from Bahrain on April 7, 2006. Only days earlier had he announced he would be launching the channel to represent the views of “the Baloch nation.” His family claims the secret services arrested him to unearth his sources of funding. It appears odd that the authorities would feel threatened by the launch of a vernacular language TV channel since Sindhi, Punjabi and Pashto language channels already exist in the other three provinces. Mengal’s case is perhaps different because Pakistani forces have been battling rebellious nationalists in Balochistan who seek greater national resources that they contend have been denied them. It is against this backdrop that suspicion of official involvement has been fuelled. The authorities, of course, deny involvement, but speculation of their complicity in Mengal’s disappearance is widespread.

Also worrisome is the authorities visibly increasing level of determination to prevent journalists from entering or reporting from the tribal areas. Several journalists have been either detained, expelled from the region or obstructed in one way or another from reporting on the government crackdown against the Taliban and Al Qaeda militants in the region. Government authorities are not the only ones involved in restricting journalism in these areas; militant groups have also openly threatened and attacked journalists, making the tribal areas the most dangerous area in Pakistan for media personnel.

Overall, the range of intimidation of the media has ranged from attacks in the field to attacks at the office, and even at home. Identified intimidators have included members of the government, military, police, intelligence agencies, religious groups, politicians, landlords, etc. In some cases it is unclear who the attackers have been. Not a single person has been prosecuted for attacks on journalists. The targets of the media intimidation expanded from last year’s list of journalists, freelancers, television stations, newspaper officers and independent radio this year, to cable service operators and internet websites.

Records available with Intermedia, a Pakistani media assistance organisation, compiled from reported media, show that 2006 has been the most violent of the six years under review for journalists. At least four journalists have been murdered, 33 arrested or abducted, 47 injured or tortured, 23 threatened or intimidated, 12 media properties attacked and three media outlets banned. The authorities may have failed to provide adequate protection to journalists in Pakistan, but the media community has also failed to adequately safeguard itself through greater networking and organisation. A system is required whereby the response by the media community to attacks against any of its members or organisations is better coordinated, and where safety networks and resources are established.The authorities may have failed to provide adequate protection to journalists in Pakistan, but the media community has also failed to adequately safeguard itself through greater networking and organisation. A system is required whereby the response by the media community to attacks against any of its members or organisations is better coordinated, and where safety networks and resources are established.

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^^How do journalists getting killed relate to the Pakistani government? Look genius, can you not see the contradiction you’re making? On the one hand, Pakistani papers and journalists can write reports that are published everyday in the major newspapers criticizing the government. On the other hand, you claim that journalists are being murdered left right and centre. What is the point of allegedly killing a couple of reporters a year, when there are whole newspaper outlets and major circulators publishing whatever they like including criticizing the government and its policies?

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1) I'm not in Amreeka
2) The Pakistani media everyday criticizes Musharraf. How come they dont disappear?

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‘An unprecedented occurrence’**
By Reema Abbasi and Iftikhar A. Khan**](http://dawn.com/2007/03/10/top3.htm)
KARACHI/ISLAMABAD, March 9: Former chief justices of the Supreme Court, senior lawyers and human rights activists have criticised President Gen Musharraf’s decision to suspend Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry on the charge of misuse of authority.

** Former chief justice Sajjad Ali Shah, who was unceremoniously removed during the Nawaz Sharif government, termed it ‘an unprecedented occurrence’. “This has created immense insecurity amongst other judges and is another step towards the ruination of an institution. A chief justice has never been sent to the Supreme Judicial Council, but other judges have been tried and action has been taken against them,” he said.**

** Justice Sajjad Ali Shah observed that the Chief Justice cannot be removed, suspended or made ‘non-functional’ under Article 209 of the Constitution in its present form.He said under the relevant Article, the Chief Justice has to head the Supreme Judicial Council with two next senior most judges of the apex court and two senior most Chief Justices of the High Courts as its members. He said under Article 209 (3), if the inquiry is against a judge of the Supreme Court, the judge of the court next to him in seniority, and if such member is the Chief Justice of a High Court, the Chief Justice of another High Court next in seniority amongst the Chief Justices of the remaining High Courts shall act as a member of the Council in his place.**

** He said the Constitution was silent on what to do in case the complaint was against Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

He said there was an ambiguity in the law and it was open to interpretation. He said it was the job of the lawmakers to spot a mistake and rectify it.

He said the judge against whom a complaint is being considered by the Supreme Judicial Council, stops discharging his duties till the disposal of the case. He, however, said the orders for suspension or making a judge non-functional cannot be issued by the president. "This is against the principle of trichotomy of powers. He said all the organs of the state must function within their own scope and there should be no overlapping, interference or domination.**

** Justice (retd) Sajjad Ali Shah accused the government of weakening the judiciary and stressed that the judiciary must assert itself at this point of time. “The constitution and the constitutional institutions cannot function in the absence of the judiciary,” he remarked**.

He was of the view that the action against the chief justice had a nexus with the upcoming polls. He said the president wanted to be elected again by the existing assemblies, and there were speculations that elections might be postponed for one year. He said important cases were being heard by the larger bench headed by the chief justice, which also included the one pertaining to enforced disappearances.

He said the government wanted to create an impression that democracy had failed to deliver and only the army can save Pakistan from total disaster. “My fear is that chaos will grip the country and the government will come up with a new constitution.”

In reply to a question, he said the bold decisions in the Steel Mills and the kite-flying cases may have prompted the action against the chief justice.

Sajjad Ali Shah said the action against Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry was different from his (Sajjad’s) removal as chief justice. He said in his case the judges and the government had joined hands in a conspiracy to unconstitutionally remove him from office.

In reply to another question, he said even after suspending Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, Justice Baghwan Das, who was the senior most judge of the court after him, should have been appointed the acting chief justice. He said `India is not far away. It takes just 25 minutes to reach Lahore from New Delhi," he remarked.

Former chief justice Saiduzzaman Siddiqui, who ceased to hold office after his refusal to take a fresh oath in Jan 2001, said that under Article 209 of the Constitution, the president does not have the powers to remove any superior court judge except on the recommendations of the Supreme Judicial Council.

He said only the president was empowered to make a reference against a chief justice or judge of superior courts if he is incapable of properly performing the duties of his office or was guilty of misconduct. But before taking any action, he must wait for the outcome of the inquiry to be conducted by the SJC. If the SJC rejects the reference, the judge would continue to hold office.

Justice Wajihuddin Ahmed, who also stood retired in 2001 following his refusal to take oath, said the government action was illegal, unconstitutional and unethical. It would lower the country’s prestige. He said there was no vacancy in the office of chief justice and no acting chief justice could have been appointed.

If at all an acting CJ had to be appointed, the senior-most judge, Justice Rana Bhagwandas, should have been given oath. He is on a visit to India and could have been recalled on short notice

Nasir Aslam Zahid, a former chief justice of Sindh who was relegated to the Federal Shariat court during Benazir Bhutto’s second tenure, supported Sajjad Ali Shah’s condemnation. “This is a highly retrogressive step and is more serious than the PCO. It opens up actions against any judge. If someone does not agree with the president, he can just be accused of misconduct or something and removed," he says.

Mr Zahid said that the power of removal can only be exercised after the preparation of a report. “My understanding of Article 209 is that action can only be taken after the necessary proceedings have been completed and the report has been submitted by the SJC to the President.”

He also said there is "no provision for suspension of any judge’.

But the retired judge is cognisant of the fact that the government may be armed with a counter argument. “They can say that a power to pass a final order includes a power to pass an interim order.”

However, former chief justice Saeed-uz-Zaman Siddiqui played it fairly safe with milder comments. “It is not good for the judiciary and its reputation has been greatly affected. But the president has the right to take such an action and whether it is right or wrong, can only be determined when the report is presented by the SJC.”

Mr Zaman also said that the SJC comprises the chief justice, two senior-most judges from the Supreme Court and two senior-most judges from the high courts.

Abid Hassan Minto, a prominent senior lawyer, feels that Iftikhar Chaudhry’s suspension may have come about because some of his decisions were viewed as acts of dissension. “He was involved in some judicial activism and it is said that the government was allergic to him and his actions were being perceived as anti-government. This move has created several questions and is controversial,” says Minto.

I.A Rehman, a leading human rights activist, also criticised President Musharraf’s decision. “In a country where such a thing happens, it is a symptom of something very rotten in the state structure. The state is faced with such utter collapse of everything valuable and the cancer eating into the vitals of a democratic state has reached a very dangerous stage,” says an irate Rehman.

“Sajjad Ali Shah was undone by his own colleagues. The state has been corrupting the judiciary for a very long time,” he continues.

Asma Jehangir, chairperson of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), seconded Mr Rehman’s opinion. “The removal of the Chief Justice of Pakistan is a bitter blow to the independence of the judiciary. There were rumours that the government wanted to remove him.”

“Such a dismissal can only be acted upon after the Supreme Judicial Council decides on merit against an accused judge. The speed with which the Chief Justice of Pakistan has been removed shows that the executive is nervous of an already tame judiciary.”

An official statement issued by HRCP doubts that Iftikhar Chaudhry’s removal was prompted by any misuse of authority "as such judicial practices are fully tolerated, if not encouraged by the Executive. The process adopted is also illegal and irregular. A reference by itself cannot grant the Executive the powers to dismiss a judge of the superior courts.

“It is significant that the Chief Justice of the Sindh High Court was flown to the capital in haste and in a chartered plane to secure a prompt decision from the Supreme Judicial Council."

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Oh yes, a really controlled media that cannot even seem to make up its mind on what it the correct law!

Another version

However, former chief justice Saeed-uz-Zaman Siddiqui played it fairly safe with milder comments. "It is not good for the judiciary and its reputation has been greatly affected.* But the president has the right to take such an action and whether it is right or wrong, can only be determined when the report is presented by the SJC.***
http://www.dawn.com/2007/03/10/top3.htm

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You two need to do more independent research. Anyhow, I doubt you will or are capable of it, and I'm off for a bit.

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you should have actually underlined this part:

However, former chief justice Saeed-uz-Zaman Siddiqui played it fairly safe with milder comments. "It is not good for the judiciary and its reputation has been greatly affected.But the president has the right to take such an action and whether it is right or wrong, can only be determined when the report is presented by the SJC.

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Good, no more of your BS

You may not be in Amreeka, but with your thoughts, you are definitely not in Pakistan,as u clearly have no idea what is happening in Pakistan

You need to go back to school and learn the difference between permissible 'general critique of a govt', compared to in-depth investigations, that result in media person's being arrested and killed

If u post, you should at least have an element of truth, not the lies you post.
Learn from Fraudz, and other posters.

Maybe when you grow up you will realise how dumb you are

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And BTW his comments don’t make any sense to me. First he says *“It is not good for the judiciary and its reputation has been greatly affected”, *then he says “But the president has the right to take such an action” and then, “and whether it is right or wrong, can only be determined when the report is presented by the SJC.”.

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Here is one view of what happened:

A well-planned action

Azaz Syed

ISLAMABAD: Ostensibly, it was the misconduct and misuse of powers which prompted the president to ‘suspend’ the Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry. But, highly placed sources in the capital attribute the development to the not-so-good relations the top judge was having with the legal lieutenants of the government, who, according to them, drew up his exit plan.

If they are to be believed, the decision to proceed against the ‘unwanted’ Chief Justice was made some 90 days ago at a high-level meeting, President General Pervez Musharraf presided in Rawalpindi. Sharifuddin Pirzada, an advisor to the prime minister, and some senior officials of the intelligence agencies were also in attendance. **During the meeting, the bosses of secret agencies grumbled about Justice Iftikhar’s keen interest in the cases of “forced disappearances” and their everyday hearings and pushed the president to remove the Chief Justice to pull them out of a great embarrassing situation. Feeling the case put up to him against the Chief Justice a genuine one, the president directed Sharifuddin Pirzada to set down ways and means to fire Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry. The president, at the same time, ordered the intelligence outfits, to which he consider his “eyes and ears” to collect documentary evidence against the ‘undesirable’ guy. Sources claim that a top legal advisor to the government and the Chief Justice of a provincial high court, who feel bad about Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, are the real actors behind the move. **

The ‘suspended’ Chief Justice was also ‘indirectly’ advised to quit, but he didn’t. In this regard, the persons concerned came up with the idea of taking fresh oaths from the Supreme Court judges except the Chief Justice. But the idea was dropped for the fear that a few judges might announce support to Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, to the government’s embarrassment.

Sources also said a National Accountability Bureau (NAB) reference against Dr Arsalan, the son of the Chief Justice, and an open letter by noted lawyer, Naeem Bokhari, facilitated the execution of the presidential decision.

Federal Law Secretary Justice (retd) Mansoor Ahmad, after taking directions directly from the Presidency two weeks back, spoke to one of his lieutenants, Additional Secretary Mohammad Azam Warraich, and asked him to provide record of some previous cases regarding removal of the judges. In this regard, a comprehensive summary of the methods adopted in different judges’ removal cases by the then governments was prepared and presented to the officials concerned.

Sources said a panel of top legal aides, headed by Sharifuddin Pirzada, after going through different ways of removing the CJP, prepared the draft which was later implemented by the government Friday morning. Meanwhile, Justice Javed Iqbal, other judges of the Supreme Court and Chief Justice Sindh High Court Justice Sabihuddin and Chief Justice Iftikhar Ch were also taken into confidence. Both who are also the ex-officio members of the Supreme Judicial Council, were already invited to the town before Friday to smoothly effect the decision.

Until Friday, CJP Iftikhar Ch was not aware of the developments taking place around him. At the last time, he was asked to “complete his work early because the President wants to see him”, said a source who works in the Chamber of Chief Justice. Later, he was taken to an undisclosed place. However, rumours made rounds in the city that he was taken to the Army House, Rawalpindi. But when The Post contacted the director general of the Inter-Services Public Relations, Maj-Gen Wahid Arshad, said: “I don’t know about the whereabouts of the CJP. He is not there.”

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It's really quite obvious what he means. The reputation of the judiciary has been brought down by the behaviour of the Chief Justice if he really has abused his powers.

But the President was within his rights to order an investigation.

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No I don't think it is what he meant to say otherwise he wouldn't have begun the very next sentence with 'but'.

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In depth investigations? Alright, genius, I’ll bite this one time. What exactly was so in depth about this reporter’s reporting? Shahid Soomro covered the elections in 2002. Yet he was blasted. How many reporters covered the elections in 2002, and why were they not all shot in the same way?

In Pakistan, Shahid Soomro, correspondent in the town of Kandhkot for the Hyderabad-based Sindhi-language daily Kawish, is reported to have been shot dead on October 20 in revenge for his recent election reporting. Commenting the assassination, Mr Matsuura declared:
http://portal.unesco.org/ci/en/ev.php-URL_ID=6010&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html

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Whatever man, you seriously need to learn some English before commenting on this. The But does not show anything, except to suggest there's a flipside to what he said. It's not good he gave us all dententions for playing football in the park, BUT the headmaster was right to do so.... It's not good for the judiciary that the Chief Justice has been accused of abusing his power and has been suspended, BUT the president has every right to accuse him and suspend him pending an investigation.

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Ok yara I'll try to learn some english, thanks for your kind advice.

But all he is saying is that the way the CJ has been suspended is bad for the judiciary and its reputation has been gravely affected 'but' the constitution allows the president to suspend the judge and whether his decision is right or wrong can only be determined when the report is presented by the SJC.

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so you won’t be satisfied until ALL journalists are killed…no wonder people here are calling u an idot :rolleyes: