Pakistan's top judge is suspended (Merged)

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LHC moved to cancel licences of private TV channels

By our correspondent

LAHORE: Justice Hamid Ali Shah of the Lahore High Court (LHC) on Monday sought reply from the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra) over the operations of two private television channels.

The judge directed the Pemra to submit a report whether or not two of the private television channels were telecasting their transmission in accordance with the rules and regulations. The court issued this direction while taking up a petition filed by a local lawyer Muhammad Arshad and also referred the petition to the chief justice of the LHC to constitute a larger bench for further hearing of the petition.

**The petitioner-advocate has submitted that the respondents’ television channels were telecasting derogatory information about current national issues especially in relation to the reference filed by President Pervez Musharraf against Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry.
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The petitioner said that almost all the private television channels were trying to outpace each other in maligning the Army and the judiciary, which are the two highly placed and esteemed institutions of our homeland. He submitted that while issuing licences to the TV channels their owners are being bound by certain terms and conditions including observance of respect of sovereignty, security and integrity of Pakistan.

The television channels are bound to ensure that their programmes do not encourage violence, terrorism, extremism, militancy or hatred to comply with the rules framed under the Pemra Ordinance, 2002, he added.

He said that according to the rules of the Pemra, no programme would be aired or distributed which passes derogatory remarks about any community. Muhammad Arshad advocate submitted in his petition that almost all the TV channels including the respondent channels were indulging in all aforementioned illegal activities these days tending to undermine the integrity and solidarity of the country. He prayed the court that the government and Pemra be directed to initiate punitive action against both respondent TV channels and such other channels and to cancel their licences.

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MKF: You wanted things to be one sided :slight_smile: It could have been but then, as far as I am concerned, I give a good thought before any comments or conclusions. I live and work in UK since many years and developed my values here that I believe is mostly fair and thoughtful. Nevertheless, I have regular contacts in Pakistan and well aware of many things that is happening in Pakistan.

So, let me explain you my thoughts and conclusion, how I came on conclusions that I wrote and how I look at things regarding CJ.

Starting point: First forget Musharraf, consider him as someone in power at the moment that can do something. Come on the issue of CJ and what is happening regarding this issue. Consider Musharraf as XYZ who is president, that’s all.

CJ name was sent for enquiry by president. Question arises why? I ask myself that if I know everything that CJ done or that I know all complains and allegations that was against CJ? Obviously not, as I am not in a position to know that, my knowledge comes from media.

Can media publish everything against CJ? No, because even if media can publish many things, be it true or lies on executive activities or even on President, publishing against CJ or thing related to court in Pakistan could still come under contempt of court. Actually, even Naeem Bukhari open letter was not published in any newspaper because of this reason.

Now who is the best person that would know all complains against CJ? Obviously President as he is the person that appoints CJ and is the post above him (especially in present situation, most complains against CJ would have gone to President).

Due to internet, I know that complains and allegations were there against CJ and some allegations were very severe. Naeem Bukhari letter may not have got published but still it was available on net. Other complains and allegations, I do not know though it is getting claimed by government now that there are many other allegations against CJ, other than what is made by Naeem Bukhari.

So, if there are allegations on CJ, in my personal opinion as well as opinion of any civilised person, post of CJ becomes questionable. Still, CJ should not get sacked without hearing and if hearing could not clear CJ, then allegations on CJ should get investigated (enquiry should be initiated).

In my opinion as well as opinion of any civilised person, leaving CJ in office after allegation would mean, running judiciary under tainted person, and that is obviously wrong in every way. Thus, allegations should get investigated (enquired). Nothing wrong in enquiry and that is the most civilised thing to do. It can separate black due to allegation with white of CJ innocence. After enquiry, CJ could be found guilty of allegation or could come crystal clear.

Now, how allegations on CJ could get enquired and investigated? For any investigation, first thing is to create conducive atmosphere, where allegations is investigated without interference or pressure from CJ and with full freedom to the investigating body consisting of respectable people. Conducive atmosphere for investigation can be created only when CJ is suspended. Else, if CJ is guilty of allegations, it is obvious that in office he would interfere with investigation, and if not guilty then his suspension would make no difference.

The most respectable investigating body could consist of supreme and high court judges and that is happening. All supreme and high court judges work under CJ and if CJ is not suspended, their working could not be considered as neutral and without interference or bias. In such situation any enquiry would be meaningless. Thus, I believe that suspension is automatic and part of any such enquiry, especially if enquiry is of someone holding key post like CJ.

Unless I believe that an alleged person could still stay CJ and no enquiry should be made on him, I have to agree with all what is happening. In my opinion I am not wrong, but if my opinion is wrong, you can point that out. Well, you can say that there were no allegations on CJ and if that is the case, all what is happening is wrong, but again, I believe that there were/are allegations on CJ and all what is happening is due to those allegations.

If you think that there were allegations, you can answer my previous post #189](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=4849329&postcount=189) and try to answer the question I put there. I hope that you will answer my post as none really answered yet.

Anyhow, I know that whatever correct or wrong, we can have opinions. No one is in any position to impose opinion on others, but we can just mention. So, that is what I did, read opinion of others and mentioned mine. No arguments :slight_smile: In few days, all of this issue will be sorted out so let wait and see.:slight_smile:

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and what has Ishrat-ul-Ibad got to do with CJ's sacking? From page 1 this thread is irrelevant Musharraf bashing and has nothing to do with the actual issue.

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faisal saleh hayat, sherpao, ishrat-ul-ibad and the likes are what your democracy left for this country. Why blame musharraf for these people? like minerva said, there is more that meets the eye and for some

aankh jo kutch dekhti hae lub pe aa sakta nahi

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because he is the one who put them in the present govt, despite his pledge for clean govt

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Musharraf should also arrest these brick throwing illiterate lawerys protesing on the streets of Lahore & Islamabad...He has to deal with these anarchists with full force...

They occupied the supreme court the whole day yesterday in hundreds...Most of them belong to some particular political party and just want to give a political color to this CJ drama...All of them should be caught up & put up in Jails.

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^^ You can see why the Pakistani judicial system is a mess..These lawyers dont even understand that Musharraf is Consitutionally in the right to do what he did.

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^^ Besides look at the CJ trying to come out clean ,infact a martyr.....with all this fake support from PPP-P/MMA & PML-N ghunda Lawyers.

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...Musharraf is Consitutionally in the right to do what he did.

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Rights things need to be done in right manner.

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and at what legel grounds do you think it was not done in the right manner?

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hear hear...

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One of the funniest aspects of what happening at the moment in Pakistan and mentality of some Pakistanis are questionable :slight_smile:

If Musharraf do not act against CJ alleged of corruption and misconduct these people are not happy (as it was few days back regarding CJ whom these people were calling corrupt) and if Musharraf eventually did acts and initiate enquiry, these same people become unhappy again, while same CJ whom these people were calling corrupt before enquiry started becomes most honest to them, just because Musharraf started enquiry on CJ, things changed for them. :rotfl:

What is wrong with these people? what can be said of these people? :smiley:

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So who sacked the CJ?

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well the previous post said that because CJ appointed Aitzaz Ahsan as his lawyer and as Aitzaz belonged to PPP he must be corrupt. Got the picture now. The guys I mentioned all belonged to PPP and are now with the General. I am sure you get the picture now.

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The whole country has united against the dictator on this issue. The chamchas running up and down on gupshup for their army paycheck are irrelevant to the events in motion.

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CJ was not bought before the council and told of his crimes.

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damn boooooooooooy, we can get paychecks and shyt?
like howcome no one told me bout that guv?

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i cant believe that parvez musharraf can just sack the judge that sort of stuff is unheard of in the uk pakistan needs proper law and order

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oh an i do not agree with the point that he has not been allowed to see anyone or speak 2 the media. this makes law and order in pakistan seem like a joke to outsiders

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Not you, but I'm sure two individuals here have some incentives that are less than moral. Saleem has already mentioned the money he made in the stock market bubble.

In no other democratic and civilized country in the world is it the norm that the CJ is suspended and put under house arrest even before the specific allegations are made public or presented before any council.