Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

[ravage]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

you didnt answer my question. if you think its a characteristic of a great leader, do you think no dogs actually went without food during the time of Caliph Umer?

[Spock]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

you didnt answer my question. if you think its a characteristic of a great leader, do you think no dogs actually went without food during the time of Caliph Umer?

Ravage, as a Muslim I do believe Caliph Umer's reign was an example for all form of governance and leadership, even today...

[Reza_Pahlavi]

Re: Pakistan’s Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@Aalsi

People will continue to moan about Pakistan and its govt. without understanding the whole situation and gigantic scale of the disaster that had hit Pakistan. Their hate for President Musharaf is clouding their judgement.

May god bless all the people that have helped in the relief effort, and continue to do so, whether through donations or voluntary work.

Earthquake in Kashmir has been regarded worse than the tsunami in December 2004, according to the UN.

"This is a huge, huge disaster … perhaps the biggest ever that we have seen’', as said by Mr Annan.

Earthquake worse than tsunami, says UN | Environment | The Guardian

Now that is quite a telling fact Aalsi. The Asian Tsumani caused devestation to some one dozen countries all across the Indian ocean, and still today they are picking up the pieces. We thought that was the worst natural disaster ever, but the UN says the Pakistan earthquake was much worse in impact. Yet, by the grace of the Almighty we the Pakistani nation - it’s people, government and army overcame that together and have done absolutely splendidly. Of course more has to be done, and that is not surprising considering this is a disaster worse than any other seen before, but we the achievments so far are quite historic. Well done to the Pakistan Nation. :k::jhanda:

[Spock]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

^ Yar, I am not accusing you directly, but thats what I feel has been going on.

Everytime I say soemthing about altaf or musharraf or any pro govt person, i get 50 PMs from Haris giving me all sorts of warnings, posts moves, deletions etc, my inbox is full of them, and I deliberately posted insults about Nawaz and BB, but those slip by easily for some odd reason. Even my signature was deleted, though I dont think the word I used for President Musharraf was an insult, it just signifies his great friendship with Saddar Bush. Mush aur Bush, ik hi gal haye! I mean president Musharraf ko busharraf kehney sey kun sey phaddey start hon gey yar?

[system]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

^Hey Fraudia bhai, How many warning points do I have?!?!? Am I contender or do I need to work harder?!?!:)

[Khehkeshan]

Re: Pakistan’s Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@Fraudz

i know your warning level and I know the warning level of ppl who u are complaining about, and unless laws of math have changed they have more warning points than you.

Arey bhai, just tell him what my warning points are.

[Khehkeshan]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

Haha, well whatever his warning points are, give me +10 of those.

[system]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@Fraudz

bhai saab u are actually banned, u are posting in your dreams :D

Man... Im totally wasted! I think some of the smoke from my neighbors bong must have leaked in my bedroom through the vent! :)

[Haris]

Re: Pakistan’s Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@Spock

^ Yar, I am not accusing you directly, but thats what I feel has been going on.

Everytime I say soemthing about altaf or musharraf or any pro govt person, i get 50 PMs from Haris giving me all sorts of warnings, posts moves, deletions etc, my inbox is full of them, and I deliberately posted insults about Nawaz and BB, but those slip by easily for some odd reason. Even my signature was deleted, though I dont think the word I used for President Musharraf was an insult, it just signifies his great friendship with Saddar Bush. Mush aur Bush, ik hi gal haye! I mean president Musharraf ko busharraf kehney sey kun sey phaddey start hon gey yar?

What people “feel” under the influence of their paranoias is not the truth most of the time.
The fact that poster with diff views also feel the same paranoia at times, is a big certificate for the mods’ neutrality.

Plus, would you care to explain to the readers, who judge and make conclusions based on what people post, who changed your signature and why?

@Fraudz

spock**, when a mod moves posts, lets say he moves a number of posts from a thread, teh system automatically sends u a note, sometimes for each post, now whether u were reacting

i know your warning level and I know the warning level of ppl who u are complaining about, and unless laws of math have changed they have more warning points than you.

so what you FEEL is going on is not the fact. I know it, I see it.**

so in essence you are saying haris is baised, but then we have Flame of Life who is staunchly anti musharraf and so is ehsan bhai, so u think they will let the stuff slide by intentionally?

Thanks Pir Ji for the good clarification!

@Fraudz

** and you know how many of your posts I have moved, think about how many of those i gave you warning for. as I have said, my hope always is that phaddas that start and tempers that flare just be sidelined because otherwise they start a domino effect and dont like giving warnings unless it becomes a massive issue, even ignoring low class ghatiya personal attacks that I get.**

** and as far as calling musharraf busharraf…someone calls banazir bayazmir, and the whole thing will start, and sadly there are ppl here who get from there to maan behen ki galian and choosna this and chatna that very quickly. and that is something that is simply not going to be tolerated on this forum, period.

thats the logic, and that why it is in place.
**
anyways, lets return to this topic on thsi thread and we can continue this separately.

My views and approach here exactly! :k:

@Khehkeshan

Haha, well whatever his warning points are, give me +10 of those.

Thanks for showing the other side.

[Haris]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@Farid

When some motabars use ugly language for other parties such as PPP, ML (NS), MMA or even JI etc, though irrelavent in that discussion no warning has ever been issued. Is MQM is a sacred cow, untouchable?

Be it known once again, I am NOT pro MQM!

@Fraudz

the policy the mod is referring to was put in active implementation last week so things that happend prior to that are not a factor, and things that happened after that, if someting was missed, please send the mod a note and they will take needed action. if unresolved escalate it to ehsan, obviously he is not pro MQM so u cant say he is biased in MQM favour.

anyways, lets get back to the topic..

Yes.

@Spock

Leave it man, trust me, I never complained in the past openly about biased modship, but am doing so now, and theres a reason behind that, because now Im posting against the government...

Seriously, the entire nation right now is galli gallooching the Government at a pathetic job done, and some people are trying to use all means possible to somehow portray them as being 'saints' and merely 'better than others'... It wont work though...

I hope other members can recall your behavior when you were proMusharraf or even before that...

Secondly, if there is a lot of gali galoch on the street or in everyones opinion, I'm sorry i don't think thats ANY excuse for you or anyone to be allowed to do the same here on this forum, which a lot of ppl put in a lot of effort to make a worthwhile place for intellectual peaceful interaction.

@Fraudz

o yaaar bola toh..report it to the mods, copy ehsan on it, if you have abigger problem copy azkar on it. send them specific examples and they will take action.kya rona dhona machaya hua hai :)

** spock, criticism of govt is fine, gali galoch unfortunately results in phadday and it pollutes the entire site,a nd that is why apolicy which was lighhlty enforced is being enforced.**

I know how junoon forums are run as well, i doubt you allow gali galoch there that can result in phaddas.

** criticize govt all you want, show their corruption, others will show positive aspects .. but that is what a discussion is right, that is what stating yoru view is, why do we have to eresort to gali galoch for that. that is the point.

and lastly when u accuse the site of being biased you accuse eshan, azkar, muzna, faisal and I to be biased. is that what you really mean? cuz coming from soemone i consider a younger bro it sure hurts**

Yes, thanks again for putting it well Pir Ji!

[Captain1]

Re: Pakistan’s Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

Thread kahan se kahan chala gaya

[Khehkeshan]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@Haris Zuberi

Be it known once again, I am NOT pro MQM!

If you support Mush and are mohajir, you will automatically become pro-MQM in their eyes.

[suhaib]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

here in uk there are many many kashmiris and from what i have heard is that the earthquake reconstruction is a mega success story, and gov. has suprised them all.

[suhaib]

Re: Pakistan’s Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

A view of one of the reconstructed school after the earthquake.

[shriek11]

Re: Pakistan’s Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

Yet the mirpuris still have the highest support for Gunja aka do no good der?

On side note, i hope everything is quake proof this time..

[Khehkeshan]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@suhaib

here in uk there are many many kashmiris and from what i have heard is that the earthquake reconstruction is a mega success story, and gov. has suprised them all.

mqm paid agents

[Haris]

Re: Pakistan’s Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@Khehkeshan

If you support Mush and are mohajir, you will automatically become pro-MQM in their eyes.

Even that equation is way out of balance and doesn’t quite fit right…

@Captain1

Thread kahan se kahan chala gaya

Unfortunate and true, but just because of some posters who always just don’t seem to know how to be straight.
Fortunately now though, the thread is back on track.

[Haris]

Re: Pakistan’s Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

@suhaib

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/kbboy101/Nothern%20Areas/chakothihighschoolforboys.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/kbboy101/Nothern%20Areas/chakothischools.jpg

A view of one of the reconstructed school after the earthquake.

Beautiful!

[Captain1]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

^ true, hopefully this area won't see an earthquake again and that if God-forbid it does strike then these buildings are good enough to survive.

[Robert]

Re: Pakistan's Success Story: Rising from ruins of the 10/8 2005 Earthquake

Ravage, as a Muslim I do believe Caliph Umer's reign was an example for all form of governance and leadership, even today...

Are muslims required to believe that?
If not, they are not muslims?