Pakistan's Islamists target English literature classics

Hmm a bit of a typo in this article it was the PML(Q), government and the Faujis who launched this attack on English Lit, and not the MMA.

10 July 2003 07:23
http://www.mg.co.za/Content/l3.asp?ao=16957
Some of the great works of English literature could be scrapped from the syllabus of one of Pakistan’s leading universities because of what professors fear is a rising tide of Muslim fundamentalism.

A review of books studied in the English courses at Punjab University in Lahore singled out several texts, including Alexander Pope’s The Rape of the Lock, Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, and Jonathan Swift’s Gulliver’s Travels as containing offensive sexual connotations which were deemed “vulgar”.

Academics from the English department have fiercely resisted the proposed culling of the syllabus and warn of other moves to curtail liberal and critical opinion in favour of Islamist thinking. “Ordinary, professional liberals feel that there is no space for us in our own town now,” said a senior academic. “I feel increasingly that Lahore is polarised and the threshold of tolerance is falling.”

The review appears to have been triggered by complaints made about the syllabus by the wife of a retired army general. She criticised the inclusion of two poems, including one by WH Auden, which she said promoted Jews, and a poem by Vikram Seth, who she said was too pro-Indian. She also said the poems of Adrienne Rich were unsuitable for study because she is a lesbian. “We have been tolerant for too long,” the general’s wife said in a meeting with academics from the department.

President’s wife

She reportedly passed her criticisms on to the wife of General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan’s president, who asked the retired army officers who run the university to take up the case.

The review of books on the English literature undergraduate and masters syllabus was conducted by Shahbaz Arif, a lecturer in English, who in an interview staunchly defended his proposal to rule out dozens of texts studied around the world. He said the books he had singled out used “vulgar words” and left students who came from conservative backgrounds and had poor spoken English “shy” and “embarrassed”.

“Limitations should be there, it is required,” said Dr Arif, adding that he himself was westernised, citing his PhD in linguistics from Essex University. “The majority of students come from a background where literature is not available. Sex is a taboo. It is very difficult to teach these things in the classroom. We have to be very careful in the selection of texts.”

But an internal memo drawn up by Arif and seen by the Guardian reveals the startling nature of his criticisms. He begins a section about books on the masters syllabus by saying: “Almost every second text in the syllabus contains direct/indirect references of vulgarity and sexuality.” He highlights Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises: “All characters sexually astray: men homosexuals; females lesbians/promiscuous; Brett Ashley nymphomaniac and so on.” The list includes Pope’s The Rape of the Lock, about which Dr Arif says: “The title of the book itself shows vulgarity.”

He then highlights a book of John Donne’s poetry, saying: “Almost every poem has the connotation of sex where the poet wants to take every lady to bed for sexual pleasure.” Other books are criticised for scenes involving alcohol.

Perhaps the most bizarre criticism is of a Sean O’Casey play, The End of the Beginning. Dr Arif makes no specific comment on the text but quotes several passages in which the apparently objectionable phrases are underlined. They include the phrase: “When the song ended, Darry cocks his ear and listens.” Dr Arif has underlined the word “cocks”.

Arif said his proposals would go before the next meeting of the university’s board of studies, which has the final say on the syllabus. Many on the board say his suggestions will be shot down immediately. Professors in the English department, who have now been ordered not to speak to the press, have been incensed by the proposals.

“This is something that has been working gradually and slowly over time. This is cashing in on the fundamentalists,” one academic said. “You are not going to stop talking just because the human anatomy is being discussed,” said another professor. “We have to teach our students that there is a whole world out there.”

Lahore, Pakistan’s pulsing cultural heart, is the city where the country’s largest and most ideologically rigorous Islamist party, Jamaat-e-Islami, has its headquarters.

In the wake of a surprisingly strong performance at elections last October, Pakistan’s religious right has become increasingly assertive. In Peshawar, religious parties control the provincial parliament and have voted to impose sharia law. In Lahore, advertising billboards depicting women have been painted over and western soft drinks have been banned from sale in the university.

Professors have spent hours in fierce arguments beating off an attempt, endorsed by the religious parties, to drop English as a compulsory subject at undergraduate level.

Masood ul-Haq, a retired army colonel and the university’s registrar, said no books on the syllabus would change. The row was simply a “tussle” between Arif and others in the English department, and Arif had been moved to another department. “We are proud to be Muslim but we are broad-minded Muslims,” Col ul-Haq said. “There is nothing known as fundamentalism in this university and nothing known as fundamentalism in Islam.”

The offending texts

Extracts of texts with “references of vulgarity and sexuality” include:

Paul Scott, The Jewel in the Crown

“He tore at my underclothes and pressed down on me with all his strength. But this was not me and Hari. Entering me he made me cry out. And then it was us.”

Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises

“What if Brett did sleep with you? She’s slept with lots of better people than you.”

(Lecturer Shahbaz Arif writes: “All characters sexually astray: men homosexuals; females lesbians/promiscuous; Brett Ashley nymphomaniac and so on.”)

Tomas (sic) Hardy, Tess of the D’Urber Villes (sic)

“To Tess’s horror the dark queen began stripping off the bodice of her gown – which for the added reason of its ridiculed condition she was only too glad to be free of – till she had bared her plump neck, shoulders, and arms to the moonshine, under which they looked as luminous and beautiful as some Praxitelean creation, in their possession of the faultless rotundities of a lusty country girl.”

Jonathan Swift, Gulliver’s Travels

“I must confess no Object ever disgusted me so much as the sight of her monstrous Breast, which I cannot tell what to compare with, so as to give the curious Reader an idea of its Bulk, Shape and Colour. It stood prominent six Foot, and could not be less than sixteen in Circumference. The Nipple was about half the Bigness of my Head, and the Hew both of that and the Dug so varified with Spots, Pimples and Freckles, that nothing could appear more nauseous.”

Alexander Pope, The Rape of the Lock

(Dr Arif writes: “The title of the book itself shows vulgarity.”)

John Donne, Love Poems and Divine Poems in Metaphysical Poetry

"Enter these armes, for since thou thoughtst it best,

Not to dreame all my dreame, let’s act the rest."

(Dr Arif writes: “Almost every poem has the connotation of sex where the poet wants to take every lady to bed for sexual pleasure.”)

Sean O’Casey, The End of the Beginning

“I’ve seen you, when you thought I slumbered 'n slept with nothing at all on you, doing your physical jerks in front of the looking-glass.”

“When the song ended, Darry cocks his ear and listens.”

Edmond See, An Old Friend

“They gave me five or six cherry brandies during each performance. It took the place of a meal because alcohol is nourishing and it warms you.” - Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003

nothing wrong with revising what they teach in school. now if they make urdu simpler, that'll be perfect.

Excuse me?. Sex is vulgar? I find most of Ghalib's ghazals vulgar too where he freely discusses sharaab and sex.

Banning these books is a good way to ensure students read them…

Re: Pakistan’s Islamists target English literature classics

i was offended too .. gulliver is so long and hung like an elephant and the midgets are tiny like a beetle… so unfair :disgust:

Why not abolish the English lit courses altogether? Go a step further, ban English in Pakistan. I wonder what will the wicketkeeper be called? How about Gugli or silly mid-off?

Anyway, it is University of the Punjab, and not University of England. I propose a rejuvenated and revitalized Department of Punjabi Lit, with all kinds of Punjabi sexy poetry (believe it or not, most Punjabi Sufi poetry is homoerotic).

In terms of what sort of English literature can students read or not in public schools, I think Pakistan is still far behind the US. Read this for an interesting read. The book has really caused a stir and made American policy on sensitive words quite a target of redicule in radio and tv shows.

Here are a few excerpts:
An anthology used in Tennessee schools changed “By God!” to “By gum!” and “My God!” to “You don’t mean it.” The New York State Education Department omitted mentioning Jews in an Isaac Bashevis Singer story about prewar Poland, or blacks in Annie Dillard’s memoir of growing up in a racially mixed town. California rejected a reading book because The Little Engine That Could was male.

To what exactly do the censors object? A typical publisher’s guideline advises that

• Women cannot be depicted as caregivers or doing
household chores.
• Men cannot be lawyers or doctors or plumbers.
They must be nurturing helpmates.
• Old people cannot be feeble or dependent; they
must jog or repair the roof.
• A story that is set in the mountains discriminates
against students from flatlands.
• Children cannot be shown as disobedient or in
conflict with adults.
• Cake cannot appear in a story because it is not
nutritious.
If they want, Pakistani authorities can learn a lot from the US in this matter. :slight_smile:

Faisal, the community boards that govern schools decides what to include on the reading list, and not some lowly professor of an English department. What exactly are you implying? Your argument is not really making any sense.

The curriculum in NY Public schools differs from block to block, but mostly to make sure that kids are exposed to different lifestyles, such as 'it's OK to have two mommies". Now are you suggesting that Pakistan should follow similar policies concerning public education?

^ Peshawar can be a start. “Daddy has a roommate” :hehe:

Yeah Matsui, my sister has her own mommy, like my other brother.

Actually if you had read the link, you would have known that it is not my argument, but of Diane Ravitch who is the Research Professor of Education at New York University. She holds the Brown Chair in Education Policy at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C., where she is a Visiting Senior Fellow and edits the Brookings Papers on Education Policy. Not only that, from 1991 to 1993, she was Assistant Secretary of Education and Counselor to Secretary of Education Lamar Alexander in the administration of President George H.W. Bush. She was responsible for the Office of Educational Research and Improvement in the U.S. Department of Education. As Assistant Secretary, she led the federal effort to promote the creation of state and national academic standards.

And based on what she has seen during all those years sho wrote a whole book called “The Language Police” which documents how stringently (and in some cases rediculously) the so-called “community boards” enforce standards of language read by the students in US.

So you see, Pakistan is following the same foot-steps. As a self-proclaimed leader of the free world, I am sure, US deserves no less. :k:

Ofcourse it is not your argument Faisal. That one is pretty gratuitous. It was a cut and paste.

Whether the school board or the community board, they should get out of the policing business of education.

Faisal, community boards that govern school districts have the absolute say as to what is taught to their kids. A professor can write about it all she wants, it does not change the reality. Look at the examples you have listed as the kind of censorship in place? I think they are all noble and enforce an environment of greater understanding of the society. I wouldn't like my kids to read certain materials when they are in elementary or Junior High.

When they start to rewrite Huckleberry Finn, that will be the kind of censorship that is being sought at the University of the Punjab by the Islamists.

Pakistan can learn a lot from my little school district, let alone learning from the US educational policy.

Matsui....community boards are very important. I am for them, so long as they keep religion based nonsense out of classrooms.

Thats the spirit, my man! :k: Everyone, including you, have some tolerable limits on what kids should or should not read at certain ages. That is what US Education policy does, that is what your community boards do and that is what mullahs do too. The limits of tolerance for each is different, ofcourse and so its just a matter of what is suitable for each of you.

Point is, relevant authorities regulate what will be censored for students and you agree with that approach, now you can haggle about the limits being too tight or too lax, and frankly that is for them to decide in Punjab University, just as it is for you to decide for NYC or your kids.

Com'on Faisal...there is a difference between elementary schools kids and young men and owmen doing their post-graduation in a foreign language.
Let us put it another way, should it be a matter instituitonal of policy what a 20 yr old person reads?(in or out of university)

Chann ji.. once you give in to the point that others have authority on what someone reads, then its only a matter of difference is as till what age and to what content should this censorship apply.

NYA, for example, stops at junior high, and what is available for reading to the kids at that level... for a mullah sitting in Peshawar the period spans all the way to post-graduate and beyond. NYA, for example, wants to make his kids aware of diversity, the mullah wants to make vulgarity (as he defines it) unavailable to the students. So its just a matter of details.

Conceptually both think censorship is appropriate. That was the whole point.

Pakistan is not lone in this. Many governments, including US, China, Singapore, Malaysia, probably even India, interfere and dictate what should and what should not their citizens/students/kids have access to in terms of syllabii in public institutions, information, literature, news and what not.

Faisal, that’s totally not my point, my point is completely the opposite. “I” want to have a “say” into what my kids are taught at a young age. It is totally not ‘censorship”. I want the religion and sexism kept out of my kids learning until they are mature enough (early adolescent) to understand what the intricacies are. When they are old enough to know it, it is upto them what they want to read. I don’t want any Mullah or any Politician telling “me”what my kids should learn in the classroom. And that’s where the school districts come into play. The case in point about English Lit courses at the graduate level in Uni Punjab are a completely different story. What they are trying to achieve by excluding modern classics from the reading list is beyond my comprehension. I hope they are not suggesting to ban these books to be sold in Pakistan. I wonder if they took out Auden, Pope, Hardy, Scott and Hemingway out of the readings, what are they going to teach? Allama Iqbal? As was said earlier, it will make interested student read more about the authors and that kind of literature. No one goes to do a graduate degree in English literature to learn morality and decency. They enroll in such programs to learn the fking literature.

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*Originally posted by NYAhmadi: *
I want the religion and sexism kept out of my kids learning until they are mature enough (early adolescent) to understand what the intricacies are. When they are old enough to know it, it is upto them what they want to read.
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Someone sitting in Pakistan, supposedly in a position of authority is probably using the same arguments, although his or her definition of "mature enough" and whether to keep "out" or keep "in" is different, or in total contrast to yours. So, this is now an issue of finer points and details. Conceptually you are both arguing the same thing. A "say" in what "kids" under your responsibility read in public classrooms.

It seems like some of these so called Muslim Ullema want us back in the days of stone age. The world has moved on and the idiotic behaviour of some of these extrmists is nothing but stopping this or the other. There are a million other things they can do to improve the life in Pakistan and in the muslim world alltogether....
Instead of finding flaws in the education system try improving it.
By stopping a book here and a book there they are just making the new students even less marketable in the industry of today.

I am not saying that all in the English Lit is proper for education in the Islamic world....but Gulliver's Travels for crying out loud.

Couldn’t really have said it much better fayax :k:

Censorship has it’s place and value but looking at the bigger picture you can’t help wonder why so much time and energy is being expended on fairly trivial issues like this.

If the same amount of effort was put into regulating police behaviour for example wouldn’t that be more useful?