Considering the amount of flak pakistan gets in the world nowadays, who do you think are REAL friends of pakistan.. no matter what happens.
I can think of only two.
China and Saudi Arabia
maybe Turkey to some extent (who by the way is the only muslim country with some balls)
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Saudi Arabia ... u kidding me?
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The only thing that matters is interest. There are very few real friends. But yes Saudi and China are it. There are no more since Pakistan has *ed up * so much for its own people and the world.
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Friends in name.
USA, Britian, France, India, Saudi Arabia, Oman, UAE
Friends in support.
China
Friends who sympathise with us.
Brazil
Iran
Turkey
Indonesia
North Korea
Freinds we should depend on....
Allah
Re: Pakistan's friends
i agree with Faris!
besides China I cant think of any other friend who would actually support us, stand by us!! ...
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So did China stand by Pakistan in kargil, after all weren't "we" China's Israel always?
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You do realize the point you are trying to make is contradictory? If we are China's Israel, China's support should be unconditional no matter how many international laws and human rights we violate. But as you said yourself do they do so?
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Saudi Arabia ... u kidding me?
what do you expect from a friendly state exactly ?
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The only thing that matters is interest. There are very few real friends. But yes Saudi and China are it. There are no more since Pakistan has *ed up * so much for its own people and the world.
yes you are hundrend percent correct .friendship between states is not a matter of emotion , few people think if it is a friendship of two muslims states, unconditional freebees and support should come automatically.
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does 'friend' mean feed, clothe, shelter, arm, fund, hug, kiss, sleep and go to jail with you? for gossake shouldn't a country stand on its own or at least try to? Otherwise you will always feel betrayed
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China did not stand by us then or in 1971 becuase we have always favoured America over China. Its a sad truth… 
China has actually done more than its fair share for Pakistan but not that our leaders appreciated it much… China used to see us differently but since Zia sided with the US instead of the Chinese and Russians when he was a General and working for the CIA project “L S T” him and many others in the Pakistani political game worked behind the scenes during the Cold War particulalrly in Vietnam arms scandals.
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You do realize the point you are trying to make is contradictory? If we are China's Israel, China's support should be unconditional no matter how many international laws and human rights we violate. But as you said yourself do they do so?
I am just asking if they stood by us, since Pakistan is supposed to be their Israel. No need to argue just to argue because you don't like the premise of my question.
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We opened up China to America (read up on kissinger - nixon visit to china) so I don’t know why are you giving them so much benefit of the doubt? I don’t know why desis are so thick, as take anyone in the fifties and sixties and they would sing the praise of America no matter what and who it supported in Pakistan. As for 1971, I believe it was the threat of Soviets that would have really kept the chinese at bay (if they wanted to engage indians in the 1st place) considering the spanking the soviet mechanized division could inflict on china per the friendship and peace treaty with India. I could see why Iran might be pissed off at Pakistan - US relationship, but Pakistan hasn’t worked against China, so far as to refuse free US offer to widen the karakorum highway. You guys just can’t see what is in front of you i.e. no one wants to hang out with a loser like Pakistan, and no it isn’t just an “indian conspiracy” this time.
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I am just asking if they stood by us, since Pakistan is supposed to be their Israel. No need to argue just to argue because you don't like the premise of my question.
Your premise is wrong. Nobody save for you have stated we are China's Israel.
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So pakistani newspapers lie when they quoted the chinese?
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Which newspapers we talking about?
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news, dawn etc.
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The 129 countries that voted for Pakistan to get a seat on the UN security council show who our friends are.
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India was one of them so are they our ......... ? Wow that turns this forum upside down! :D
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reliable sources tell me there is a last minute amendment - all countries who voted for - except India.