Pakistan's Forex reserves fall to $8.82bn.

With no new investment coming in, and no policies towards getting Pakistan out of Economic crisis, the Pakistan’s foreign reserves have now dwindled down to $8.82billion.

Thank god for the Unprecedented amount of Foreign reserves Pakistan had accumulated until the end of last year, otherwise Pakistan would have been even greater trouble than it finds iteself now. Time for government to start governing and thinking about* ‘roti, kapda, aur makan.’*

Forex reserves fall to $8.82bn -DAWN - Business; September 26, 2008

Forex reserves fall to $8.82bn

KARACHI, Sept 25: Pakistan’s foreign reserves fell $90 million to $8.82 billion in the week that ended on Sept 20, from $8.91 the previous week, the central bank said on Thursday.

The State Bank of Pakistan said its reserves fell to $5.41 billion from $5.52 billion previously, while those held by commercial banks rose marginally to $3.41 billion from $3.39 billion.

Pakistan’s foreign reserves hit a record high of $16.5 billion in October last year but have dwindled because of a soaring import bill and foreign investors withdrawing funds because of political uncertainty.

Some inflows are expected in coming weeks, including $1 billion from the World Bank and $500 million from the Asian Development Bank (ADB).

An expected Saudi oil facility would also help Pakistan save foreign exchange. But all of these have still to materialise.

The current account deficit widened sharply to $2.572 billion in July and August, the first two months of the 2008-09 fiscal year, which is equivalent to about 1.6 per cent of the gross domestic product (GDP), compared with a full-year target of 6.0 per cent of the GDP.

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alasi at this pace, we will eat up all the FR in couple of months, by the time WB and ADB will give us 1.5B. no doubt we have state of the art financial team of experts in govt at the moment, Naveed Qamer(who never had a clue when you ask him any question)

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i stated this point numerous times.. western countries specially US wanted other countries to depend on their economy so that US $ is prime currency of whole world and they can feed on african and asian economy. Pakistan and India are no more than manufacturing industry for US now and both economy will suffer as US suffers. Also found one blog entry on current credit crisis which result in pakitan and iceland’s near bankruptcy conditions..
rajesh purohit: Enough of Investment/Retail Banks, Now it’s time for Countries…

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Simple Solutions,

Asif sahib zara jaib dheli karaiN, Nawaz Shareef bhi iss kar-e-khair maiN hisa laiN, Pervaiz Musharaf say bhi paisay nikalwayaiN, aur Shokat Aziz say bhi laiN... aur kuch nahi tu aglay 6 mahinay ka kharcha tu nikal hi aye ga.

Performance is best answer for critics. When performance is continuous and lasted for over 8 years, it becomes proof itself of competence, good governance, and honest leadership void of corruption. Only crooks and thugs would demean obvious economical performances backed by facts and figures with their lies and propaganda, because crooks and thugs always try to demean honesty, because they are dishonest to their core.

Brother, to see where sugar is going, one has to taste the meal. No point shouting that sugar is stolen when meal is sweet. Only when meal get sour than we can say that where sugar is gone and who stole the sugar. When meal is sweet, only thieves and thugs shouts that sugar are getting stolen, because they want to hide their own looting and plundering with propaganda. Further, 8 years of management is long enough to see the quality and honesty of management with the result, as no luck can give 8 years of continuous growth and good performance, taking a country with bankrupt economy to become one of the fasted growing economies in the world.

It was Musharraf and SA who kept paying around $4 billion dollars interest every year and still did not let Pakistan dollar debts increase … debt that were $38 billion in 1999 was only $40 billion at the end of last year (2007). On top of that, it was their management because of whom Pakistan reserves that was few hundred million dollars in 1999 increased to 15.6 billion dollars (15600 million dollars) over 8 years (Nov 2007). Oil price is also not an excuse, as Musharraf government was giving such performance even when oil price was continuously increasing from $10 in 1999 to $97 at the end of last year (around 900 percent), and trade deficit for Pakistan was there throughout last 8 years. During their period, not for a year or two, but since 2000, Pakistan rupee was also holding its value at Rs 60 to a dollar. Now think what could have happened after SA left that Pakistan debt increased to $45 billion and reserves also decreased to $8 billion? Accumulative difference of $13 billion in less than a year.

Even rupee debt was not increasing much as it increased Rs 950 billion between 1999 and 2007 (8 years), but increased Rs 662 billion in one year, between 2007 and 2008, most during last few months. For instance, Pakistan borrowed Rs 662 billion during 2007-2008 but borrowed only Rs 279 billion in 2006-2007 (higher than average borrowing because of bhangra dances by devils on road, who were destabilising the economy for enemy of Pakistan who were paying them) … but then borrowing was very little before 2006 (around Rs 700 billion in 7 years, between 1999 and 2006) … and that is the reason interest rate in Pakistan decreased from around 20 percent in 1999 to below 5 percent in 2007.

Thus, it is not a big deal to understand that reserve that was increasing every year since 1999, rupee that was holding its value since 2000, and foreign debt that was almost constant (actually decreased during most years), everything started deteriorating so rapidly because crooks took over in April 2008. Obviously, Musharraf and SA was keeping Pakistani wealth within country and managing them well, but we saw such rapid changes because now we have crooks looting, plundering and mismanaging the economy. So blame those who deserve, not those who should be appreciated, else no one would care to work hard for the country with such undeserving people who could not even appreciate good, efficient and honest works. I can only say that one should not be amongst thugs and crooks or try to be their agents, who could not appreciate good works of others because they do not even have intention to change and do good works themselves.

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If the figures are right.. it shows either Musharraf took chunk he earned along with him Or present democratic government pocketed joining bonus...

Unfortunately things are not looking good. The 8 months of inactivity of the government, and their obsession with non-issues during this time rather than tackling real problems is now coming home to roost.

God help Pakistan. Interesting times ahead.

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^ Aalsi rejoice, its all because of that national reconcilliation you asked us to celebrate.

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See my thread. The future is bleak, unless drastic decisions are made.

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I got an idea.. lets blame Musharraf.

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^^

Some of the eco issues can be linked to the high levels of imports/borrowing, which was unsustainable.

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**Pakistan facing bankruptcy **

Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves are so low that the country can only afford one month of imports and faces possible bankruptcy.

Officially, the central bank holds $8.14 billion (£4.65 billion) of foreign currency, but if forward liabilities are included, the real reserves may be only $3 billion - enough to buy about 30 days of imports like oil and food.
Nine months ago, Pakistan had $16 bn in the coffers.
The government is engulfed by crises left behind by Pervez Musharraf, the military ruler who resigned the presidency in August. High oil prices have combined with endemic corruption and mismanagement to inflict huge damage on the economy.
Given the country’s standing as a frontline state in the US-led “war on terrorism”, the economic crisis has profound consequences. Pakistan already faces worsening security as the army clashes with militants in the lawless Tribal Areas on the north-west frontier with Afghanistan.
The economic crisis has already placed the future of the new government in doubt after the transition to a civilian rule. President Asif Ali Zardari has faced numerous but unproven allegations of corruption dating from the two governments led by his wife, Benazir Bhutto, who was assassinated last December.
The Wall Street Journal said that Pakistan’s economic travails were “at least in part, a crisis of confidence in him”.
While Mr Musharraf’s prime minister, Shaukat Aziz, frequently likened Pakistan to a “Tiger economy”, the former government left an economy on the brink of ruin without any durable base.
The Pakistan rupee has lost more than 21 per cent of its value so far this year and inflation now runs at 25 per cent. The rise in world prices has driven up Pakistan’s food and oil bill by a third since 2007.
Efforts to defer payment for 100,000 barrels of oil supplied every day by Saudi Arabia have not yet yielded results, while the government has also failed to raise loans on favourable terms from “friendly countries”.
Mr Zardari told the Wall Street Journal that Pakistan needed a bail out worth $100 billion from the international community.
“If I can’t pay my own oil bill, how am I going to increase my police?” he asked. “The oil companies are asking me to pay $135 [per barrel] of oil and at the same time they want me to keep the world peaceful and Pakistan peaceful.”
The ratings agency Standard and Poor’s has given Pakistan’s sovereign debt a grade of CCC +, which stands only a few notches above the default level.
The agency gave warning that Pakistan may be unable to cover about $3 billion in upcoming debt payments.
Mr Zardari is expected to ask the international community for a rescue package at a meeting in Abu Dhabi next month.
This gathering will determine whether the West is willing to bail out Pakistan.

Pakistan facing bankruptcy - Telegraph

Pakistan’s rating on loan return dowgraded
FT.com / World - Pakistan rupee hits record low

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This news is in all papers. Pak is broke. FACT.

Same situation as Argentina a decade ago.

Explain to me which aspect was unsustainable and materialized exactly when Musharraf left.

Please read carefully and try to understand the situation Pakistan is today compared to last year: Some uneducated and illiterate Pakistanis (including many Journalists and TV anchors) last year used to criticise Shaukat Aziz government that Pakistan has $15.6 billion reserves, rupee is strong, GDP is increasing, per capita income and tax collection is increasing, still country has many poor, why? Well, they use to argue without understanding, even when they were told that dollar reserves does not directly belong to government as it belongs to State Bank, and government cannot distribute it to people. Dollar Reserves are tool that gives confidence to investors and attracts capital to the country at low interest (or return). Reserves helps the currency hold its value and also gives boost to economy, that in turn gives poor opportunity to come out of poverty.

http://www.statpak.gov.pk/depts/fbs/statistics/national_accounts/table2.pdf

Anyhow, many did not like what was happening, so here is news for them. We saw good economic growth during last 8 years that increased Pakistan GNP from $62 billion in 1999 to over $175 billion in 2008. Per capita income also increased from around $468 in 1999 to $1085 in 2008. Anyhow, Shaukat Aziz government has gone, and with it Pakistan economical strength also started deteriorating. The situation today is, Pakistan reserve has decreased to around $8 billion and in turn rupee got devalued to Rs 78.5 per dollar. Here is the effect of such changes:

Pakistan stock market capitalisation decreased from around $78 billion on April 2008 to $36 billion on 6 Oct 2008.

Pakistan GNP for financial year 2007-08 was $175 billion (as average dollar rate for the year was Rs 61.35 and GNP was Rs 10712 billion), that gave per capita income of $1085 (that was Rs 66548).

But new reality at current exchange rate is: Pakistan GNP gone down from $175 billion to $136.5 billion (at $= Rs 78.5) and per capita income that reached $1085 dollars gone down to $848 … that is below $1000.

Things do not end there, as Pakistan dollar debt at end of June 2007 was $40 billion or Rs 2400 billion. This debt increased to $45 billion at the end of June 2008, but in reality, equivalent rupee debt increased to Rs 3532 billion (that means, increase of Rs 1132 billion or 50 percent from last year).

Pakistan internal debt increased from Rs 2601 billion at the end of June 2007 to Rs 3264 billion at the end of June 2008, or an increase of 663 billion.

So, we can see that Pakistan reserve did not only decrease from around $16 billion to $8 billion but since April 2008 due to devaluation and capital flight:

Pakistan stock market lost $42 billion in capitalisation.
Pakistan GNP lost $38.5 billion.
Pakistan per capita income lost $237 per head.

Pakistan total debt gone up from Rs 5000 billion in 1999 to Rs 6785 billion in 2008 (after effect of devaluation), that is an increased of Rs 1795 billion in one year (increase of Rs 1132 billion foreign debt plus 663 billion internal debt).

It is estimated that people living below poverty line, that was reduced to around 20 percent at the beginning of 2008 from 34 percent in 1999 has taken huge leap during last few months and could be above 30 percent again.

Here is an article from Jang (The News) on the issue, though some figures given in the article are wrong, as it seems he took some last year figures and used it as this year figures. Anyhow, what writer wrote is same as what I have mentioned above.

Foreign debt soars after rupee’s plunge

Foreign debt soars after rupee’s plunge

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Tuesday, October 07, 2008
By Mansoor Ahmad

LAHORE: A sharp fall of the rupee has played havoc with the economy, with foreign debt rising from Rs2,759 billion to Rs3,493 billion, size of the economy dropping below $150 billion and per capita income slipping to $780.

Economists have urged the government to realise the urgent need of addressing the factors that are putting pressure on the rupee and damaging the economy. They say Pakistan’s foreign debt at the end of the last fiscal year in June stood at $44.5 billion, which has increased in rupee terms by Rs743.25 billion as the currency plunged after July from Rs62 to a dollar to Rs78.50. The decline is still on and the government has not taken any concrete steps to stem the rot.

Gross domestic product, which was $160 billion on the basis of the rupee value of Rs62, has slipped below $150 billion. Earlier, Pakistan was moving steadily to join the club of Middle Income Group countries as its per capita income increased to $990 at the end of the last fiscal in June. However, the per capita income has now declined to a little over $780 after the sharp fall in rupee’s value.

The country is likely to remain among ‘low income’ states for a long time. This, the economists say, is in line with the purchasing power of the rupee which has declined considerably during the past six months.

They say the government would have to revisit the poverty profile, which has deteriorated in line with the decline in the purchasing power of the country. Some economists state that poverty must have increased by 10 per cent to above 30 per cent based on the soaring inflation.

They say Pakistan had a better Gini Coefficient than India till the 1990s. Now Pakistan is classified among countries with Gini Coefficient ranging from 0.30 to 0.34 depicting huge inequality in society. India’s Gini Coefficient ranges from 0.35 to 0.39. (Gini Coefficient of zero indicates complete inequality and one depicts complete equality).

Constant increase in imports after over 20 per cent decline in the rupee is a dilemma which has surprised most economists who say Pakistan is perhaps the second country after the US which has seen its trade deficit widen irrespective of the value of the currency at that time. The US, however, bears a huge trade deficit because its foreign exchange inflows are three times its trade gap and it ends up with a huge current account balance.

Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves are depleting and except for workers’ remittances from abroad other inflows are too low to cover its huge trade deficit.

Economic experts point out that every country in the world devises a trade policy which benefits the local industry. The US has average import tariff of less than five per cent but its import duties on textile products from Asian economies range from 11 to 25 per cent. This has been done to protect the labour-intensive clothing industry.

The economists say import duties on textile products from high-cost Western European countries are either zero or a little higher according to the prices of apparel which does not hurt their high value-added clothing industry.

The trade regime in Pakistan is operated in such a way which encourages imports and discourages local industry. Pakistan is the only major cotton-producing and textile-based economy in Asia where imported clothing and fabrics dominate local markets because of a flawed import regime. They point out that smuggling is another major menace which could only be controlled if those monitoring border checkposts are made fully accountable.

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It just looks like Pakistan mismanaged all the loans and aid they got over the last decade.

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Pakistan should avoid taking loans at any time. Loans are nothing but a modern form of colonization. Just look at Africa.

Finally, some good point coming out of L-K-C!! Totally agreed