Pakistani women speak up on rape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4271504.stm
**After a series of rape controversies in Pakistan, the BBC News website spoke to women across the country to find out how this contentious issue was viewed. **
Here they talk about women’s rights, Islamic laws and foreign NGOs.

Uzma Saeed is campaigning for the repeal of the controversial Hudood laws, which rule that all extra-marital sex is illegal.

Hudood laws are a tool in the hands of men - with these laws they can rape women and be totally unaccountable.

Under Hudood if a woman makes a rape allegation she must provide four pious male witnesses or face a charge of adultery herself.

So a woman is in the ridiculous position of having to produce four Muslim adult male eyewitnesses, men who just stood there and watched. If sex by force is not proved, this woman can be charged with “zina” - sex outside of marriage.
About 60% of women in our jails have been imprisoned as a result of Hudood laws.

I know many cases where a husband has wanted to marry again and so accused his wife of illicit relations with another man.

A repeal is essential.

I’m working on a legislative watch programme - the first of its kind in Pakistan. We are lobbying parliamentarians, media and political parties to raise awareness.

We are engaging village mullahs in this process. Rather than going on the defensive against extreme religious groups, we are playing on their own pitch.

Many religious scholars are producing research which says that these laws are not in accordance with the Holy Koran. They are political tools to control women in our country.

**Robina Nawab works for a radio network which produces programmes on women’s issues. She says that coverage of rape in Pakistan obscures the achievements of women across the country. **

**I work for a radio project called “Hear My Voice”. **

**We have covered rape victims, bonded labour, mine workers, drug issues and focus on subjects relevant to women and children. We go to rural villages and meet women in far-flung places to talk about their lives and hardships. **

**Having been exposed to the huge variety of problems across Pakistan, I can say that there is too much coverage of rape. **

**Such problems exist elsewhere in the world and I fear that the international community has the wrong image of women in Pakistan. **

**I encounter problems everyday on the streets with men staring at me, making funny expressions, sometimes touching me. **

**I show them that I am confident enough to face such challenges. **

**Our problem is not a high incidence of rape but laws which prevent women from reporting rape without getting jailed themselves. **

**But I believe the government is working to address it and I believe these changes will come. Meanwhile, I live an independent life in my city. **

**Sadia Suhail works from inside the women’s prison in Karachi for a legal aid organisation. She meets women from the poorest sectors of society, many of whom have been imprisoned for extra-marital sex.

It is not that rape is a particular problem for Pakistan, but that this country outlaws extra-marital sex for women.

Our office is literally inside the premises of the Karachi women’s jail. We have two windows which open onto the prison.

We are the only set-up in the world where a lawyer can meet their imprisoned client and also be sitting inside their office.

About half of the women in this prison are here because of zina. Some of these women are here for enticing another woman into zina. Most of these cases are acquitted and many of the charges are false.
If a girl escapes from home and marries against the will of her family, they sometimes forge a prior marriage certificate to try and prove that she has married twice.

By the time the case is heard and she is released, she could have spent years in jail.

These women are totally illiterate, hardly aware of their rights, they don’t know about zina laws and know nothing of the problems that exist for women in Pakistan. Most of them are here without any support. Sometimes, their family is the cause of their plight.

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**Zunaira Mehfooz believes that NGOs publicise the issue of rape just in order to attract funding for themselves. **

It’s very easy to criticise Pakistan when you don’t live there.

Rape is a problem in rural areas. But this needs to be tackled by the country and within the country.

I’m not convinced that NGOs do much to alleviate our problems. Their role has always been vague and I’m not sure they have played a significant role in enabling women in Pakistan.

They have their own agenda - they are run by the affluent and the rich and do not appear to be working seriously for the people.

A good way of getting foreign money is to highlight something and make it an issue.

Rapes happen all over the world but if we are serious about handling the issue in this country, we need to strengthen our laws and deal with village courts. Speaking out to the world does nothing to address these

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i agree.... in order to effectively fix a system u need to be part of it one way or another.

i asked this question before too. is hudood always referred to in pakistan for raep cases? this article does suggest so....

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This lady seems to be sensible and addressing the real issue. Excellent comments.,…

  1. What is the problem? People wanting pre-marital sex to be legalized? It appears from this artical to be so… :rolleyes:

  2. I feel people appear to concentrate more on “women” being raped, but nobody talks about improving the society as a whole. Nobody talks about the “incentives” “motives” and temptations leading to such crimes… Right? Everybody talks about “Hudood Laws”, which is fine but I am sure is not gona help without the treatment of the whole society.

  3. I agree that women “Lack” the knowledge of their rights, which leads to the exploitation. Men are “unaware” as well. So, both needs to be educated…

  4. These NGO’s, who are they? How much education about Islam they have? What is their origion? Who funds them? Except presenting the reape issue in a highly "sensitizing, emotional and tentalizing manner, they do not do anything else. These are the people who create more problem than doing any good…

  5. I personally cannot comment on the rape issue because I don’t have adepuate knowledge of Islamic laws and the shortcoming of pakistani Law in addressing this issue. I’ll first read myself and then comment why 4 witnesses are needed.

  6. It appears from this artical that the women are unilaterally, being punished for “extra-marital sex”… There are two things wrong with this sentence.

A) Unilaterally punishment: It is not clear. I cannot understand how a woman who is married can go for extra-marital sex, not man. Either the women is totally responsible OR the man has been protacted. This issue is very confusing… and does not tell anything about the origon of this problem. This does not highlight the person responsible…

B) “Extra-marital sex” as the artical suggests, is in itself wrong. Isn’t it? Then how can it be used as a basis for raising an argument for the Hudood Laws or women rights? Yes, if it was a rape, I can understand… What is the need of this extra-marital sex? I cannot understand. Do they want it to be legalized? What do they want?

Despite the artical points to a problem, it is quite suspicious to me and seems to be written by someone who has no knowledge of anything regarding Islam as he/she seems to be presenting “extra-marital sex” as something legal in Islam…

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hmm i sorta agree wid dis lahori dude..

bt I TOTALLY AGREE ON THE NGO part.. msot NOG ppl are thre for the money.. the money the international society gives to help the victims.. goes mostly into the NGO beings pockets..

e.g. LANDA bazar.. most of the things sold on landa bazar were donations from wat i heard..

third.. hadood law.. not sure wat it is.. bt yea..

bt just one hting .... JUSTICE.. DATS WAT PAK NEEDS TO WORK ON.. PURE JUSTICE!!! and everything fall into place..

Allah hafiz

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Well.... extra/premarital sex IS a crime, its' a crime against society, against Islam, no doubt about that. However, what this Hudood Law fails to do is make a distinction between consensual sex and rape. These people try to emulate the West when it comes to women's rights, in saying that premarital/extramarital sex is permissible and good, which I do not think is the right way to go. It's done in order to project a more modern, "enlightened" vision of Pakistan.

People of Pakistan should do all they can in order to fight for rights, but they must not look to the West for inspiration. Each culture/society has thei rown definition of freedom and rights. Ours are spelled out in teh Quran and we must follow those if they want their country to succeed.

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just once questions.. if pre-marital sex is a crime.. den how cum they never catch those ppl who go to moti bazar???.. i mean dont dey sex wid dose randies also??.. how cum they neva catch those men....

bt then... the govt themselves employs those ppl to do performance on stage.. and well u know.. most of our film industry and dancing industry is from that area.. so they cant..

bt that is a lot of hipocrasy.. till there is no proper ruling.. and just laws.. till then we will stay corrupt.. justice

Allah hafiz