Pakistani Temporary Protected Status in the US

[sheyn]

** A bill has been introduced in the US Congress to allow temporary protected status for qualifying Pakistani nationals in America on account of the situation and hardships created in Pakistan by last year’s floods.

After the passage of the bill in US Congress, the illegal Pakistani immigrants would be able to enjoy temporary residence status is US, while the bill will also benefit students and those staying is US on ‘visit visa"
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http://truthdive.com/2011/01/16/Bill-for-Illegal-Pak-immigrants-protection-tabled-in-US-Congress.html

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\01\17\story_17-1-2011_pg7_12

[FairyTale]

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Bill samajh mein nahin aaya

[Mirch]

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It will only benefit those who will be able to prove that because of floods in Pakistan they cannot go back till things normalize in their flood affected area. Once the situation is under control and normalize those people will have to go back. TPS does not a way to get permanent residency (green card)

[X2]

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they will do local shaadiaan by then

[KKF]

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*Zardari et el will be receiving a big fat check soon and sarHadi folks will receive FREE missiles from the Ibleesii Drones! what a balanced deal! *

[firenze]

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*Zardari et el will be receiving a big fat check soon and sarHadi folks will receive FREE missiles from the Ibleesii Drones! what a balanced deal! *

hmm.. what !

[Aceones]

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*Zardari et el will be receiving a big fat check soon and sarHadi folks will receive FREE missiles from the Ibleesii Drones! what a balanced deal! *

thats sad, but somewhat true! i just cant digest our people dying every day without any reason : s

firenze: it wasnt for you... we have got one more reason to "love" amreeeka, and let them do whatever they want yaayyy

by the way, i cannot figure out how its going to help flood affected people

[X2]

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How is it going to help flood affected people? It allows flood affected people to go to a place where they can be away from the disease that spreads after floods, have a source of income as their livelihood may have been lost until things return to some normalcy. Similar to refugees from war zones who can get to places of safety

[The_Jinx]

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@X2

How is it going to help flood affected people? It allows flood affected people to go to a place where they can be away from the disease that spreads after floods, have a source of income as their livelihood may have been lost until things return to some normalcy. Similar to refugees from war zones who can get to places of safety

Interesting.

So does this bill suggest that flood affected people from villages, who have lost their homes and are unable to sustain on their own, will be allowed to migrate to USA due to the calamity? :)

[Aceones]

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@The_Jinx

Interesting.

So does this bill suggest that flood affected people from villages, who have lost their homes and are unable to sustain on their own, will be allowed to migrate to USA due to the calamity? :)

you said what i wanted to...

plus if it suggests this, is US also going to finance their movement from the flood affected villages of Pakistan to US? no matter if its temporary or not, how are they going to benefit if most of them are not even able to move to the major cities of Pakistan itself, how are they going to move to US?

[sheyn]

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***I believe this bill only applies to those who are already there and probably belong to flood affected areas and can prove that they cannot return to their homeland due to loss of land , home , property or livelihood !

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[Aceones]

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@sheyn

***I believe this bill only applies to those who are already there and probably belong to flood affected areas and can prove that they cannot return to their homeland due to loss of land , home , property or livelihood !

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if that's the case, then its just drama.
there will hardly be anyone in the US with immediate need to leave the country, who belongs to the severely affected areas where people are still living in tents and have nothing to eat...

its just a lollipop, and even that in a showcase...

[sheyn]

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It could just be a way to weed out the illegal immigrants…

[X2]

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@Aceones

if that's the case, then its just drama. there will hardly be anyone in the US with immediate need to leave the country, who belongs to the severely affected areas where people are still living in tents and have nothing to eat...

its just a lollipop, and even that in a showcase...

so maybe they should not do it at all. lets oppose the bill.
There are plenty of students in US who are graduating or have graduated and basically need to go back, same goes for people who would be on H1 and it did not get renewed due to employment situation in US. even if it is a few hundred people, thats a few hundred people who have an opportunity to support their families in pakistan and not have to go back to that area while it is a mess.

[Mirch]

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And there are many who were just visiting a relative and now lost, as Sheyn said , land , home , property or livelihood.

[Aceones]

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so maybe they should not do it at all. lets oppose the bill. There are plenty of students in US who are graduating or have graduated and basically need to go back, same goes for people who would be on H1 and it did not get renewed due to employment situation in US. even if it is a few hundred people, thats a few hundred people who have an opportunity to support their families in pakistan and not have to go back to that area while it is a mess.

ok so why not just provide jobs to those "students" who have graduated, and same for the H1 holders? why not just renew their visa and give them jobs if they dont have? why its difficult for usa to give those few hundred people jobs and go the already available legal way, instead of bringing this charity bill of "temporary protection" ??? what the state of pakistan is supposed to give the USA in return?

before we start supporting and jumping in joy, why not we first show the figures, how many of those students who have completed their graduation are actually from the flood affected villages and have lost everything that they cannot come back?

nobody is against anyone's chance and right to earn the livelihood in the US, the only thing that needs to be answered is why a new law of "temporary protection" inside the USA instead of giving them support and building their homes and giving them resources to earn their livelihood inside pakistan? why not?

[X2]

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ok so why not just provide jobs to those "students" who have graduated,

because the students are free to seek jobs just like the other students, citizens, permanent residents, included.

and same for the H1 holders? why not just renew their visa and give them jobs if they dont have?

same, while the best scenario would be for those people to get jobs, the state of the economy is for everyone to see with 9%+ unemployment rates. so, if best scenario is not possible, the worst scenario that they have to go back does not occur. with available capacity of permanent residents and citizens who can do the work, the ability of a company to hire a non resident is affected. You cant just go and change the entire immigration and labour laws.

why its difficult for usa to give those few hundred people jobs and go the already available legal way, instead of bringing this charity bill of "temporary protection" ??? what the state of pakistan is supposed to give the USA in return?

unemployment rate of 9%+
pakistanis can reject charity bill
they can also reject the aid.

before we start supporting and jumping in joy, why not we first show the figures, how many of those students who have completed their graduation are actually from the flood affected villages and have lost everything that they cannot come back?

before we start opposing and whinging in despair, why not first show the figures, how many of those students who have completed their graduation are actually from flood affected villages and have lost everything that they cannnot come back? .. btw it does not only impact students who have finished graduation, if someone was being financed fully or partially from family who is in those areas and now can not continue education because source of funds has stopped, they would otherwise have to go back as well.

nobody is against anyone's chance and right to earn the livelihood in the US, the only thing that needs to be answered is why a new law of "temporary protection" inside the USA instead of giving them support and building their homes and giving them resources to earn their livelihood inside pakistan? why not?

Pakistanis and govt of Pakistan is more than welcome to do just that, why not?

[X2]

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ok so why not just provide jobs to those "students" who have graduated,

because the students are free to seek jobs just like the other students, citizens, permanent residents, included.

and same for the H1 holders? why not just renew their visa and give them jobs if they dont have?

same, while the best scenario would be for those people to get jobs, the state of the economy is for everyone to see with 9%+ unemployment rates. so, if best scenario is not possible, the worst scenario that they have to go back does not occur. with available capacity of permanent residents and citizens who can do the work, the ability of a company to hire a non resident is affected. You cant just go and change the entire immigration and labour laws.

why its difficult for usa to give those few hundred people jobs and go the already available legal way, instead of bringing this charity bill of "temporary protection" ??? what the state of pakistan is supposed to give the USA in return?

unemployment rate of 9%+
pakistanis can reject charity bill
they can also reject the aid.

before we start supporting and jumping in joy, why not we first show the figures, how many of those students who have completed their graduation are actually from the flood affected villages and have lost everything that they cannot come back?

before we start opposing and whinging in despair, why not first show the figures, how many of those students who have completed their graduation are actually from flood affected villages and have lost everything that they cannnot come back? .. btw it does not only impact students who have finished graduation, if someone was being financed fully or partially from family who is in those areas and now can not continue education because source of funds has stopped, they would otherwise have to go back as well.

nobody is against anyone's chance and right to earn the livelihood in the US, the only thing that needs to be answered is why a new law of "temporary protection" inside the USA instead of giving them support and building their homes and giving them resources to earn their livelihood inside pakistan? why not?

Pakistanis and govt of Pakistan is more than welcome to do just that, why not?

[Naabigh]

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On a side note - The U.S. Consulate General in Karachi has relocated to a new compound at Plot No 3-5, TPX Area, Mai Kolachi Road, Karachi. It has started operations at its new location on January 18, 2011.

Please check the website http://karachi.usconsulate.gov for details on the services offered.

good news - as now people living in southern Pakistan dont have to travel all the way to ISB for getting the Visa …:chai:

[Aceones]

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@X2

because the students are free to seek jobs just like the other students, citizens, permanent residents, included.

same, while the best scenario would be for those people to get jobs, the state of the economy is for everyone to see with 9%+ unemployment rates. so, if best scenario is not possible, the worst scenario that they have to go back does not occur. with available capacity of permanent residents and citizens who can do the work, the ability of a company to hire a non resident is affected. You cant just go and change the entire immigration and labour laws.

unemployment rate of 9%+ pakistanis can reject charity bill they can also reject the aid.

before we start opposing and whinging in despair, why not first show the figures, how many of those students who have completed their graduation are actually from flood affected villages and have lost everything that they cannnot come back? .. btw it does not only impact students who have finished graduation, if someone was being financed fully or partially from family who is in those areas and now can not continue education because source of funds has stopped, they would otherwise have to go back as well.

Pakistanis and govt of Pakistan is more than welcome to do just that, why not?

so to sum it up, this charity is only available to people who are already in USA, and they are from the flood affected areas, and because they have completed studies or the their contract period, as per law, they need to go back. and this "temporary protection" is only for those who wish to live in the USA on support perhaps? because you yourself mentioned the unemployment rate, and the difficult job market, so they are not going to get jobs. most probably they will be living off the state provided support, ok fine.

and as for rejecting the bill, we all know that our govt cannot reject any thing that may result in some $$$ for them. lets not talk about them