Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb

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according to yesterdays pakistani press ttp have denied any links to him. apparently the press got ‘ttp claim resposibility’ from an unrelated warning to the US issued by the group

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Every random joe has met TTP leader, according to them.

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Thats going to be hard because Pakistan was created as a homeland for Muslims? If there were no Muslims in what was India then there would have been no reason to create Pakistan.

So religion should be a distant second? Should those pakistanis that pray Namaz, stop? Should those Pakistanis who fast during Ramadan and go to Hajj stop? Should those Pakistanis who respect the elderly, love the younger ones, give alms, wish for their neighbours what they want for themselves, stop doing all this?

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Pakistan was created for the PROGRESS of muslims of India -- Jinnah created the nation that out of a fear that they would be denied their due rights and would be treated as second class citizens in the independent nation of India after the brits left.

Religion was used as a tool for t he creation of Pakistan -- NOT THE REASON ITSELF!

Once the nation had been created, muslims MUST have turned their attention towards progress in education, the industrial sector, and should have strived to establish a fair, free open society where everyone is respected.

We did not. To this day, courtesy people like you, MANY in Pakistan think that the goal of the nation was to create a a space where they could worship as much as they want and to whatever extent they want. Its that mindset which was cultivated by the likes of Zia that has gotten into this shyt now. Islam should not be BE ALL END ALL of Pakistan -- economic progress and education MUST be. However, given the level to which everyone in that country is indoctrinated and biased, that seems like a distant possibility.

The idiots don't realize that their religion wins when Pakistan wins -- not the other way around.

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This is just like the concept of Trinity.

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what stalker doesnt understand is that its not the people who have decided to put religion first, its a requirement of islam to put faith in Allah subhana wa taa'ala first and foremost, and then with a bit of barkat you may be successful if Allah ajjawazal wills it.

btw even if pakistan was to put religion in a far off second, it wont be going anywhere fast. poverty, and increasing poverty is what waits for pakistan

so go ahead and put your faith where it belongs. i know pakistanis want glory. this is is where our glory is

to those low in faith: if the welfare of pakistan is your primary concern then youve got nothing to lose.

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I'm at a complete loss. This myopic focus on faith, strangely not found in any nation with a significant muslim population except Pakistan, is causing problems. It causes problems when the religious right interferes with progress related to education, development in far of areas, mitigating populatin growth, and dealing with the rest of the world. It prevents your country from building alliances with other, friendly countries, who may happen to be non-muslim but probably have a lot to offer you. It allows extremism, the militant camps, and other nonsense to breed. It disaffects the rest of the world which on its face is secular. It even disaffects to more tolerant, moderate segements of the society who want to contribute to the welfare of the society -- and not just pray in the mosques. I'm sorry, there's enough faith in Pakistan already. It's time its brought under control and we're taken back to our more secular roots that prevailed in the period when Jinnah was alive. He would have shuddered to see what is going on today.

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The problem is when ANYONE tries to shove their concepts on others. Thats what we should address and not discard religion because of some idiots.

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It is time for all of us to learn beyond the 6th grade history text book. No use of repeating sarkari propaganda.

Did you EVER think that if Muslimsness was the cause of Pakistan's creation then why on earth?

  1. Pakistan wasn't created in UP and Bihar that had HUGE Muslim population?

  2. If Islam was the pre-requisite, then why every Mullah worth a dime was OPPOSED to the very concept of Pakistan? and even Jinnah was a declared Kafir?

Learn bhai, learn!

Parh likh lo, shaid samajh aa jaay aap ko!

AGain a 6th grade Mutaliay Pakistan argument. Did you ever read before posting these nuggets?

Muslim pray Namaz even when they live in Hindu, Christian, and Jewish countries. However those countries do no allow Islamo-fascism to take over the country. But we did in Pakistan, and that's precisely why our beautiful country is slowly being turned by primitive tribals into Islamist Jahannum of Afghanistan.

hahahah. dragging Namaz and Haj in national affairs. Wah ray Wah. Kaisay kaisay log aa jatay hain, doooor doooor ki uraanay walay.

Afsos sad afsos aisy wahayati baton per.

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stalker, islam doesnt impede any of the progressive points you mentioned, even from a governmental policy prospective. much of islam is in the intention, so with intention of making an islamic country successful, by using islamic principles is the way forward

remember much of pakistan is only peaceful with its neighbouring village because they come togather under faith. la illaha ilallah is what keeps PAKISTAN togather, take it away and you'l see. its no use completely importing systems from europe/US, designed by and for someone else. we have our own identity

capitalism is a known unfair system with regards to the third world, and at the same time dont under-estimate the fruits of barkat. i dont want to gointo too much detail about 'interests' because that would taint our intention. put it this way, make sincere intention, put in effort and dinner will be on the table!

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Actually peopel liek Burqaposh have a serious problemn with Islam. They cant even comprehend the fact that Islam encourages education be it wordly or religious.

You seem to think Islam is this religion that is about blowing people up. You very rarely say antyhing positive or FACTUAL about islam.

You wrote keep Islam a distant second. Do you know what the most important aspects of islam are?

So this Islamic fascism is the biggest threat to pakistan? So previous to 1979 Pakistan was a land of paradise - education for everyone, a free national health system, social welfare for the disadvantaged, many employment opportunities, clean drinking water, a clean democratic and corrupt free system where all politicians and army staff were accountable, provincial harmony based on fairness of resource distribution?

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**RAND report: Threat of homegrown jihadism exaggerated, Zero U.S. civilians killed since 9/11

All terrorists are Muslims, except the 94% that aren’t
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Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated

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agree with you their, this 6% are the target only - one day every one of these suckers will be buried alive along with their goats !

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I think we need to stop living in denial, and start taking names. General Zia, FATA/Pakhtunkhwa-Khyber, elements of ISI, nexus of Western/Saudi interests in the 80s.

Reform the ciriculla, stop indoctrinating kids and the broader population, genuine focus on economic development. The army/intelligence should work on the real enemies and start building alliances with civilians (and not jihadis!!) in Afghanistan. All of this can only happen with an iron hand. And that seems like a remote possibility