Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies

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Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies

@mercenary2k

Of course USA has spies in various terrorist groups. I would be surprised if they didn’t. Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda, TTP, etc. I am glad they have spies in these networks so that they can get a headsup on any future terrorist attacks. Why do you think the Drone Campaign has been so effective in killing off these TTP animals?

Your analogy is ridicious. Its like saying if the FBI has a spy in the Mafia, that means the FBI is a Mafia organization? Do you even read what you type?

TTP terrorism has decreased from the dark days of 2008-2010. Some terrorism do occur but TTP operation tempo has been greatly reduced. Before 100 people were killed on a daily basis now it occurs on a weekly basis. Sad but its still an improvement nonetheless. But many more Drone Strikes are needed before these animals are wiped out. However, Drones would not be needed if the Pakistani Army actually did its job in defending the nation rahter than playing hide and seek with India.

TTP are not that technological savy, you need human intelligence rather than signal intelligence. And thus having intelligence agents within terrorist organizations such as TTP greatly assists in wiping out these animals.

The blowback is occuring because for years Pakistan has been brainwashing people and sending to fight jihad and implement Sharia Law where as Pakistan never had that type of government. As the saying goes, “Charity begins at home”. And thus before they export Jihad to foreign lands, these guys have turned their guns on Pakistan to implement a draconian Sharia Law. But since you cannot comprehend a Jihadist attacking the Fortress of Islam aka Pakistan, you have to console yourself by inventing nonsensical conspiracy nonsesne that any person who attacks Pakistan must be foreign supported rahter than doing some soul searching and figuring out that this nothing more than the fallout from Pakistan’s disastarous jihad policies.

The TTP have not done anything differently than what the Afghan Taliban are doing in Afghanistan. Blowing up girls schools, stoning women, throwing acid, recruiting kids to be suicide bombers. But over there you call their struggle a fight for freedom. When the Pakistani Taliban do the same in Pakistan, you call them American backed agents. Thats the height of hypocracy.

The blood of Pakistanis will continue to flow until people like you finally stop blaming all the problems of Pakistan on boogey men such as India, RAW, Israel, Mossad, Jews, CIA, America, Zionists, BlackWater, etc. and take responsibility for your own actions.

But who am I kidding. Keep on blaming other for your problems. Its the Cowardly way out.

We are getting there slowly. You have admitted that TTP is supported by CIA. Then you go on to justify CIA support by saying that:
a) It allows CIA to get informatiuon about future attacks
b) Drone strikes become effective as a result of having CIA agents inside TTP.

However you admit that TTP is still active due to according to you lack of sufficient drone strikes to eliminate TTP.

Despite having admitted CIA involvement in TTP you don’t think that CIA is a terrorist organisation.

I don’t think that I need to add anything further to your views, except that there is a difference between FBI having an agent within a Mafia Organisation, and CIA having agents in a terrorist organisation. The difference is that FBI agent is not above the law, he cannot indulge in criminality or murder without being held to account by the law of the land. CIA terrorists are free to commit murder, explode bombs and indulge in terrorism. CIA is above law. They are doing this in a sovereign country, that is supposed to be an ally makes it worse. They are doing it in a country that fought for them, and for peanuts made them the sole superpower is worse. They are now destabilising a country that won the cold war for them. That has been struggling for more than 3 decades, with the blowback froms it support of the US. Even now without Pakistani support, the US would not be able to stay in Afghanistan. In return it has got terrorism, its economy has been weakened, its citzens have been killed, its institutions have been weakened. On the one hand you are killing our people with drones, on the other through terrorism and the rest through poverty. You have installed a corrupt puppet regime in Pakistan that been both incompetent and corrupt, that has mismanaged the economy, looted the national wealth and increased poverty and inflation. The IMF has given them billions in loans which they knew would be looted and in return Pakistan has compromised its soverignity, so the US does not need to attack Pakistan and can just destroy in economically.

Your claims that having CIA terrorists within TTP allows CIA to get information about future attacks would seem true only if terrorism was significantly reduced or eliminated, however terrorism has only increased so your claim does not seem to be true. So CIA agents aren’t stopping future attacks they are making them more likely.

You also claim that drones strikes become effective due to CIA having terrorists agents. This would be true if terrorism was reduced but terrorism is only increasing. Out of upto 3,500 killed in drone strikes you have stated only 2 TTP members as having been killed. So CIA drones are not killing TTP terrorists.

Pakistan does have a lot of problems but the nation is resilient and capable of dealing with its own issues and addressing them. If the US cannot help Pakistan then at least it should not try to create further problems for Pakistan.

I have no doubt that as soon asthe US leaves Afghanista,n then terrorism in Pakistan would also disappear as the centre of gravity of terrorism would disappear. If any other nation had been through what Pakistan has been through as a result of fighting the US’s wars twice then they would have been destroyed by now. Pakistan is also close to destruction not through some external threat by internally through US sponsored terrorism and through US supported corrupt regime in power.