To Arshad 
Your argument was Foreign Agencies were supporting the TTP. You failed totally to come up with any logical argument of this instead went on rambling on US history, throwing tangent arugments like OBL, ISI, etc. and when push came to shove you put those laughable links. That is the definition of disproving someone’s arugment when they get so desperate to support their viewpoint they throw in sites like “Rupee News”. :rotfl:
They conducted a joint attack last year when they killed 17 Pakistani Soldiers. Ask the mothers of the dead Pakistani soldiers if that is a figment of their imagination.
That was an attack by TTP. Show me the proof that was a joint attack.
Here is the site which tracks all the dead terrorist leaders including the numerous Pakistani Taliban commanders that have been killed: The Long War Journal - Senior al Qaeda and Taliban leaders killed in US airstrikes in Pakistan, 2004 - 2011
Trust me, this site is a lot more authentic than “Rupee News”
Here is an article published just on January 3[SUP]rd[/SUP], in which Afghan and Pakistani Taliban are developing a joint strategy for their shared struggle and this is from an established Pakistani Newspaper not some Zionist controlled Newspaper.
Pakistani and Afghan Taliban groups set up council to coordinate attacks - The National
The links were requested because we demanded proof. But since you failed totally to provide any tangible proof intead some amateurish blog and conspiracy sites, what else do you expect? I wanted quality news sites and empirical evidence. You failed on both counts.
Here are some of the key TTP leaders taken out by Drones. This doesn’t list the countless foot soldiers and mid-level commanders who have been taken out.
Badr Mansoor
Mansoor, a Pakistani citizen, served as al Qaeda’s leader in Pakistan and a key link to the Taliban and Pakistani jihadist groups.
Date killed: Feb. 9, 2012
Ibn Amin
A senior al Qaeda and Taliban military commander who led forces in Swat in Pakistan.
Date reported killed: Dec. 17, 2010.
Qari Mohammad Zafar
A leader of the al Qaeda and Taliban-linked Fedayeen-i-Islam wanted by the US for attacking the US Consulate in karachi in 2006
Date killed: February 24, 2010.
Baitullah Mehsud
The overall leader of the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan.
Date killed: August 5, 2009
Khwaz Ali Mehsud
A senior deputy to Baitullah Mehsud.
Date killed: June 23, 2009
No wonder terrorist attacks in Pakistan have gone down. US drones have devastated the TTP and thus reducing their capacity to launch terrorist attacks.
**We are not talking about AQ here and we are not talking about the tribals, we are talking about TTP. Out of close to 2,000 killed the best you can do is name 2 people from TTP. Out of these can you provide a link for the second from a news site? The first one has killed to silence him.
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These SWAT militants didn’t run right into SWAT. Are you for real? Do you even read the news? They retreated into North Waziristan and from there expanded their base of operations into the neighbouring regions of Afghanistan after US pulled out some of its troops needed for the Surge.
**So you are saying that the US has pulled its troops away from guarding the border. So they don’t feel threatened by the TTP fighting them in Afghanistan. That does explain a few things alright.
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No, I am saying that US changed strategy and focused on more populated areas. US is not leaving in 2014. They will keep a residual force to keep training the Afghans to kill these Taliban Terrorist Animals.
**No they don’t want to leave the country but the Afghans are forcing them to leave.
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So USA is killing its own intelligence agents in an attempt to convince Pakistanis that the TTP is an enemy of USA. :rotfl: Oh man, you are too much. Please tell me more.
**TTP is a short term asset that is expendable. As are the mercenaries from Blackwater or whatever it is called.
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Pakistan had a choice to make. Either it joins the community of nations in condemning terrorist attacks eminating from its terroitory and do something about it or it gets labelled a state sponsor of terrorism. TTP’s guns are trained on Pakistan because they want to implement a draconian version of Sharia Law. Why is that too hard for you to understand? Pakistan is not this vanguard of Islamic causes and nor is the truest and most purest Islamic nation that ever existed in the history of the world that no extremist Islamic militant will ever think they can improve upon. TTP are hell bent on establishing an extremist Islamic state in Pakistan much like the Afghan Taliban are doing in Afghanistan. If you cannot understand this basic fact then you need serious help.
**Funny isn’t it they TTP does not emerge when the Taleban is in control of Afghanistan but only after the invasion of Afghanistan, with the purpose of attacking Pakistan.
**Drones have devastated the TTP and thus it shows the big drop in terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
**Drones have only devastated the opponents of TTP, the best you can do is to name 2 TTP people out of close to 2,000 killed by drones.
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I don’t know Zardari and why would I ask him. He was voted in by the people of Pakistan. You live in Pakistan instead of complaining and whining and wasting my time with your ridiculous conspiracy nonsense, why don’t you do something about the political mess in Pakistan.
**Zardari is only in Pakistan because of the NRO which was negotiated by the Americans to allow him back into the country. Why did the US want him in Pakistan? To further their agenda. The US does not believe in providing free lunches.
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If you want Pakistan to become this great humanic state, then you must be against the Taliban Terrorists who are burning girls schools, throwing acid, killing innocents, training young kids to be suicide bombers, using Pakistani ground as a base for global terrorist attacks.
Yes I am against them, but I also against the sponsors of TTP.
The others nations that supported Pakistan was Saudi Arabia and UAE who gave Pakistan money because Taliban are a Sunni state and they were fighting other factions in Afghanistan who were backed by the Iranians.
They are fighting Pakistanis because they don’t believe that the current government in Pakistan is as Islamic as they would like.
LOL current government in Pakistan is not Islamic but government in Afghanistan is Islamic led by a puppet of the US.
I am totally with you here. I hate the Taliban and all extremist. Either it’s the secular extremists like MQM, or religious extremists like Afghan Taliban, Pakistani Taliban, Al Qaeda, etc.
Others didn’t have an opportunity to judge it as it has not been presented to them. This theory that US are supporting the TTP is a Pakistani only theory. It’s too stupid and absurd to be exported anywhere else.
I have proved you wrong more times than I can count.
**No you still have not proved me wrong. If you have proved me wrong then I have also proved you wrong. Show me the proof that the US in not behind TTP? I am still waiting for that proof. All I have is your word for it, which you want to portray as the truth.
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