main phoochta hoon kay why no one ever blames Pakistani masses who are baigharat and hypocrite… who want badkardar, badmassh, chaloo type people to represent them in their respective constituencies both in rural and urban areas as those chaloo folks are considered strong and smart who can play with the system and get things done
can anyone tell me one single honorable guy especially in punjab who ever won elections? honorable people like fazal mahmood will always lose by huge margins. masses laugh at them and call them stupid.
and it is not about uneducated masses only. even educated middle class to high-class exhibit same kind of hypercriticism. they will never pay taxes, do money laundering, will have sexual relationships outside marriage but will lecture about democratic values and need for a clean leadership but when it comes to vote, they will look for chaloo folks who can help them evade taxes.
this is an important element which is often ignored. such hypocritical behavior by masses forces our parties to issue tickets to chaloo folks…so it is a vicious cycle. I challenge any political party in Pakistan to give tickets to honorable people who want to play by book. that party will lose miserably.
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It is not entirely fault of Pakistani masses. They are mostly illiterate, dependent and gullible. Most are slaves of their tribal elders. On the other hand, haramkhors portray an image, to fool the masses, Ask any average Pakistani, and he would say that NS is religious, pious, honest, caring and truthful … without even thinking that how NS could be religious, pious, honest, caring and truthful when … he from Madina could lie that he left Pakistan in 2000 without any agreement … one who bought many properties and have billions but could not give any source of income he used to accumulate such wealth?
That is why, awam (public, voters) rely on Election commission sorting candidates and giving them certificates that they are illegible to contest election … voters (especially illiterate, dependent and ignorant) think that when EC has cleared them, than they must be honest, trustworthy, truthful and so on.
Meanwhile, haramkhors swines, pay tribal elders to buy their votes, bribe and intimidate state employees to do rigging, and portray themselves as honest, truthful and trustworthy (something EC should check before allowing them to contest election).
So, until education become norm in Pakistan and state machinery become honest and independent of government, haramkhors would keep coming in parliament and tormenting Pakistan. We should know that institutions are always independent of government in most democratic countries, and anyone, including PM of a country, can get investigated of crime or corruption and can get punished by state institutions.
Thus, until education plus state institution do not become independent of government, haramkhor corrupt Swines would keep getting into parliament to loot and plunder the country. Occasionally, army and judiciary intervenes, but that should be normal thing to do in country like Pakistan … rather, eligibility of candidates for contesting election should be done by armed forces (not because they are right institution to do that, but because effectiveness of EC and other institution has got compromised by Haramkhors).
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
^^^ Waisay … you are right for those who are educated and know that the leaders they are supporting is Haramkhor corrupt (corrupt financially and do nepotism). Such people (supporters and voters) are obviously characterless, baigharat and (munafiq (hypocrite) … or , are partner in enjoying haramkhori (enjoying corruption money).
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
I am not distributing certificate. What I wrote is accepted fact, that is: Anyhow, who knowingly support a crook person in his crookedness, is also a crook. Anyhow:
If I am wrong than, What would you call someone who supports a Haramkhor corrupt KNOWINGLY that he is supporting Haramkhor corrupt?
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
So you re saying that you have divine guidance and you dont say anything but what is right and anyone does not do or act as per your say!!! they are haramkhor or wajib-ul-qatal…
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Who decided if some one is crook ? Subjectivity much ? What do you mean knowingly. Seems you have strong opinions but others dont have to agree with your opinions. A crook is pretty objective thing and at least my conscience is absolutely clear. Are you sure you know if some one is crook or you Think some one is crook.
Yes if some one supports a crook knowingly that he/she is a crook makes that person aslo crook.
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
You were the first one to make fun of Jolie’s comment on why people are still voting traditional parties. remember stockholm syndrome?
On a serious note, I tend to agree with her that its either racism or stockholm syndrome that keep people voting these corrupts.
I dont how much time you have spent in pakistan but you being from a chak(village) must know how minor masses fantasize and glorify oppressors by adding moral twist to thier stories. This is punjab it needs someone as charismatic as bhutto to make its people excited or over exited to get out of thier shell. Rest of the Pakistan ia still in identity crisis.
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
Born and raised in Karachi - till early 80s as per family influence we thought the moulvies were only the leaders who could lead us to success and then came the MQMers who proved far more detrimental than the moulvies.
Crooks are like Abid Sher Ali, Rana Sanaullah, many PPPians Mulla Fazlu - definitely these people are crooks.
Another reason is that voters turnout has always been less than 60% in Pakistan.
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^^ Well voter confidence has been low, its not like every few years a theft takes place from crooks in GHQ on peoples choices. What ever it is, no more decisions from some people. Power of Vote is a process and that process must continue.
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
Well democracy is not for Muslims - they still liked to be ruled by Kings and Generals - only Muslim people who are some what democratic are the ones not conquered like Malaysia and Indonesia.
Even Hasina Wajid has been successful in getting rid of the army influence. Our democratic leaders are coward who choose either self - exile or prefer to run away.
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
Had Quaid-e-Azam set the precedence of democracy, you would’t have seen such scenario. Of and on dethroning elected governments and then installing puppets has created this atmosphere. It will take next 50 years to clean the process unless the adventures do not interfere in those 50 years. Otherwise chor uchakay, badmaash corrupt leaders is qaum ka muqaddar hain.
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
Nawaz Sharif has been made leader by military although he turned against them in the late 1990s. He was the first to get removed Gilani from PMship after the SC decision.
Contrary to this we can not cleary say that Imran is a military stooge. He found his popularity from his cricket. Even if he is at least his party has people who come from middle class educated backgrounds. It has a very popular support in Karachi.
I hope after some decades PTI will be the major party of Pakistan.
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
my point is… that every voter in Pakistan shd ask himself first. will he vote for a clean principled guy? will he vote for someone who want to go by books? will he vote for someone who will not allow corruption or tax evading? Will he vote for someone who will not play with the system?
i am sorry but most of the voters in Pakistan will stay away from such guy…
so before we blame every political party for being a crook, how about we voters take some responsibility too? we like to lecture a lot but when it comes to vote, we only selfishly think of our petty benefits.
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^^This can only work if at least 10 governments fairly elected by people to complete their tenure. In past it is no secret how military has involved in politics. You can not blame public for fups of those with absolute power. Secondly in democracy military works under civilians but in Pakistan it is vice versa and still this saga continues one way or the other.
SC has created an excellent example for dethroning most powerful person of Pakistan. I hope this process will continue and there will be more causalities of most corrupt people of Pakistan.
Re: Pakistani Masses…Why are they left off the hook?
Last time I went there 22 yrs ago I was cheated, lied, deceived, threatened at almost every single transaction..from custom officers, to immigration to airline staff to porters, to fruit vendors, to butchers, to guy offering to wash my car etc..we have a system that rewards corruption and punishes honesty. They will rape, rob and beat the Sharif guy into oblivion. I had to become a big ghunda just to protect my family.
