I really think justice here is "just a formality" ; it's words and nothing else. Since i've been here, i've seen firsthand, Pakistanis love to talk, but they don't deliver, from the darzi saying "yes ull get ur suit tommorrow" (when he's three weeks late) to a "justice system" that doesn't even protect the most innocent of its citizens. This isnt' JUST based on teh cases of Aisha Parveen, Mukhtara Mai, Sonia Naz, etc, human rights reports, but personal experiences as well. Someone told me, the way to justice here is get your brothers n male relatives to beat the guy up for you.. that's considered justice, not the police or anyone helping you out.
I am so glad girls are raising their voice - this is why i hate mentality of Pakistani men.
How can these people pray to Allah and at night rape a girl.
Its so sad this change is going to occur after thousands of girls got raped in Pakistan
ADULTERY - my *** - i wont be surprise if over 50% of janta has commited adultery.
laws in pakistan are made for women only - ullo ke.....
SOLUTION in my eyes!
Things have gotten so far and so brutal that its time to do some major changes. Until we do physical harm to those who raped another human this wont change.
Government should ask all those who have been raped to come forward. Identify the person who harmed them and ask them what would they like to do with them. They cannot kill them anything other then that is acceptable.
That girl/woman will punish him. Either they can throw stones in public, Put kala kola on their face make them sit on gadha and let them have a tour of the entire city, take small knives and hit them wherever they want, put burning wax on them or water, chop few body parts. But they cant kill.
The moment country will see women are getting in charge people will be able to keep their mardangi in their pants and underneath their "kacheeey". Because they will have a chance of losing it for good and usually they dont grow back.
Once we have this law enforced and we know girls are getting more stronger - every single student has to take either karate class or self defense class in school you simply wont graduate without it.
We would need a lot of modest and decent human beings to come foward.
We will make sure we are fair to men as well. We will not accept any type of unjustice to them either. Although i am dying to hear a case where a woman raped a man in Pakistan or there was a gang rape for such and such male - i am still willing to offer punishment fot that.
Rape can leave horrible nightmares behind we would need some good speakers in the country where they can help people become better at what they are.
khair this was a little episode under NIA's Goverment....
we shall discuss rest of issues later on.....
Nia, emotions are good, but unchecked will lead you to coronary at an early age. Having said that, I say the rapists need to be put to death, they cannot be cured/rehabiliated. It has been shown time and agian that they will committ the same crime if given the opportunity. This incident is not only sad, but also shows the hypocrisy of our society. Only when we truly fear Allah and do what is right and just, we can expect help from HIM.
Nia I agree with you. These peole should be punished so severaly that others learn their lesson.
Sara, what happend to Ms. Parveen's case? Any update? Are Civil Society Org. (NGOs) raising their voice in her support?
It hurts me to say but frnakly speaking when the president of a country gets on international media and says about a woman (a rape victim) that she is only trying to get a visa abroad or international attention ...... oh my goshhhhhh ....... what justice can you expect from that govt. Allah hee reham keray iss mulk peh!!!
Its easy to get angry in these cases but you have to remember that if the verdict is erroneous in a rape case, it can be havoc.. I guess the best thing to do is to implement sharia and setup Islamic courts in each town/village and make purdah strict for everyone! If women would have stayed home, this would not happened.
How do Arabs control everything so well? Why no one dares to do such an evil act in the arab land.. anyone cant even think of raping a woman cuz laws are laws there- eye for eye, blood for blood and death for rape! Unfortunately, we Pakistanis are stuck somewhere in between- we dont have system like them neither do we have been able to ape the west completely. For sure we have a population which thinks they are homely being like westerners..
Well, if you are so much pro-Arab, or anti-West, y dont u go and live in Saudia, or try to live the life of an average poor person in PK, so that you know what it means? this discussion aside ....
My question is to all those on this chat, who are bothered by this injustice, what are we doing about it in our individual capacity, those who are in Pk and/or those outside? Knowing our sickening and corrupt justice system, can we do anything about it? Can we help a poor survivor or are we just gonna watch that survivor beocme the victim again?
You have got to be kidding me! Whatever happened to "lower your gaze." The girl was kidnapped on her way to school - how do we know she wasn't wearing a hijab? The fact is that it is not safe in Pakistan for a woman to walk around alone anywhere - that is not the way it should be in a muslim country.
When I was in the Gulf, it was very easy and safe for me to go to the shops, even if I didn't have anyone with me. I have never been to another muslim country that was as unsafe for women as Pakistan (except India), and I have been to quite a few.
How about actually punishing men for abusing women, or, better yet, mothers actually educating their sons about the proper way to treat women.
What can I say now? Sheesh I meanme saying all the pathethic words to the government and people won’t do no good. How many of the women has been through this crap and yet nothing has done to stop it.
Mukhtara mai came out and still there were low headed people were critisiing her for coming out in public and yet another case of this woman…sigh
I am so sorry for the girl but look at this way- if you invite others, you can possibly end-up being like her. I am not saying she did that but its possible if any girl does that. I think we shud have harsh punishment and strict enforcement of law and order to take care of this stupid things. Amen
we are talking about abusive pakistani men here. mein ne yeh to nahee kaha sab karab hain … 5 fingers are never equal EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ON ONE HAND.
so no worries.. i know few really nice pakistani mundas
THIS IS THE MENTALITY - which is leading towards issues.
I think all the countries went through this transition where women started to work years ago. But few pakistani men got disgusting dirty minds.
mulz- with that type of thinking i would create a island for people like yourself and make sure you folks wont leave from there.. this would be under nia’s government .
There is no point of discussing more with this mentality simply throw you folks on the island and let you have your own fun
captaan ji didnt expect that from you folks. whats surprising you guys would still do it even if you see a total jalbabaan…
and yet another case of this woman…sigh