Pakistani ISI has links with Taliban / Islamic militants and is playing a double game

U.S. military officer says Pakistan’s intelligence agency ISI has connections to militants fighting in Afghanistan and is playing a double game. President Asif Ali Zardari has accused the army of playing both sides of the war on terror; distressingly, an abundance of evidence backs him up. Is ISI with the help of army ruling Pakistan?

Lashkar - e - Taiba responsible for Mumbai attacks gets patronage from ISI.

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The Pakistani Army and the ISI cannot be relied upon to fight all of the jihadi Frankensteins they have helped create over the past three decades. Even Pakistan’s own president, Asif Ali Zardari, has accused the Army of playing both sides of the war on terror—distressingly, an abundance of evidence backs him up. Take Lashkar-e-Taiba, the terror group that attacked the Indian financial capital of Mumbai in 2008, killing 164 people. Today, LeT continues to enjoy Army patronage. Pasha, the intelligence chief, has even been summoned by a New York City court to answer charges that the ISI oversaw the Mumbai attack.

The complexity and contradictions of Pakistani behavior—most of which is driven by the Army’s obsession with India, actually—lies at the heart of the dispute between Islamabad and Washington.

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Re: Pakistani ISI has links with Taliban / Islamic militants and is playing a double

Gayee Zardari ki kursee....

Re: Pakistani ISI has links with Taliban / Islamic militants and is playing a double

This article and the tone of Mike Mullen in Islamabad is showing stress/frustrations due to their own failures in Afghanistan. Now they want some scapegoat to shift all the blame to, although they should just read the history books about afghanistan and study what happened to the brits, and russians, a similar fate is awaiting them too.

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The ISI role has always been suspicious. It is high time all the skeletons are out in the open and everyone stops playing these games of hypocrisy.

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Whatever role ISI has in Afghanistan, the army cannot be separated from that. As far as Afghanistan is concerned, the Pakistan army has the following considerations:

1) The role of India in Afghanistan, and importance the Americans give to Pakistan while deciding the future of Afghanistan
2) Pakistan does not want to sever its relationship with Haqqani network as they know that the Americans will leave the area sooner or later but they themselves have to stay in the region therefore they cant afford to take on every one, besides for the army the most important is to fight the menace of TTP presently

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True, as ISI is military intelligence agency though not as heavily militarized as MI. I think ISI ultimately needs long term career spooks not so different from the case of CIA as the current situation in Pakistan shows things aren't working as well as they should. I guess a mossad model might also suffice

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so what!

Raw/CIA doing samething always, everybody play double tripple games to save their causes, and I hope that ISI are not egnaged with devils zaliman.

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may be now it will dawn on the US establishment that funding the Pak military is counter-productive

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http://www.dawn.com/2011/04/25/guantanamo-files-show-isi-listed-as-‘terror-organisation’.html

Guantanamo files show ISI listed as ‘terror organisation

ISLAMABAD: The US military classified Pakistan’s top spy agency as a terrorist support entity in 2007 and used association with it as a justification to detain prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, according to leaked documents published on Sunday that are sure to further alienate Pakistan.

**One document (Reuters World News - Podcast - Apple Podcasts), given to The New York Times, say detainees who associated with Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate “may have provided support to al-Qaeda or the Taliban, or engaged in hostilities against US or Coalition forces”.

The ISI, along with al Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah and Iranian intelligence, are among 32 groups on the list of “associated forces”, which also includes Egypt’s Islamic Jihad, headed by al Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri.**

The document defines an “associate force” as “militant forces and organisations with which al-Qaeda, the al-Qaeda network, or the Taliban has an established working, supportive, or beneficiary relationship for the achievement of common goals.”

The ISI said it had no comment.

The “JTF-GTMO Matrix of Threat Indicators for Enemy Combatants” likely dates from 2007 according to its classification code, and is part of a trove of 759 files on detainees held in Guantanamo Bay, the US military prison in Cuba.

The secret documents were obtained by WikiLeaks and date from between 2002 and 2009, but they were made available to The New York Times from a separate source, the paper said.

They reveal that most of the 172 remaining prisoners have been rated as a “high risk” of posing a threat to the United States and its allies if released without adequate rehabilitation and supervision, the newspaper said.

The documents also show about a third of the 600 detainees already sent to other countries were also designated “high risk” before they were freed or passed to the custody of other governments, the Times said in its report late on Sunday.

SEAT-OF-THE-PANTS INTELLIGENCE GATHERING

The dossiers, prepared under the Bush administration, also show the seat-of-the-pants intelligence gathering in war zones that led to the incarcerations of innocent men for years in cases of mistaken identity or simple misfortune, the Times said.

The documents are largely silent about the use of the harsh interrogation tactics at Guantanamo that drew global condemnation, the newspaper reported.

The Times also said an Obama administration task force set up in January 2009 had reviewed the assessments and, in some cases, come to different conclusions. “Thus… the documents published by The Times may not represent the government’s current views of detainees at Guantanamo.”

WikiLeaks previously released classified Pentagon reports on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and 250,000 State Department cables. Bradley Manning, a 23-year-old US soldier accused of leaking secret documents to WikiLeaks has been detained since May of last year.

Last week, the Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Pakistani media that the ISI had a “longstanding” relationship with the Haqqani Network which is allied to al Qaeda.

“Haqqani is supporting, funding, training fighters that are killing Americans and killing coalition partners. And I have a sacred obligation to do all I can to make sure that doesn’t happen,” Mullen told Pakistan’s daily Dawn newspaper.

“So that’s at the core – it’s not the only thing – but that’s at the core that I think is the most difficult part of the relationship,” Mullen said.

Pakistan’s powerful ISI has long been suspected of maintaining ties to the Haqqani network, cultivated during the 1980s when Jalaluddin Haqqani was a feared battlefield commander against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

US-Pakistan ties have been strained this year by the case of CIA contractor Raymond Davis, who shot dead two Pakistanis in Lahore on January 27, as well as by tensions in Pakistan over US drone strikes that have fanned anti-American sentiment.

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Everytime someone from USA puts an allegation against Pakistan, Indians get orgasms.

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^ don't you have to worry more abt the message than the messenger?

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If CIA can stop their game in Pakistan then we can talk :smokin:

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:smack: Indians kahan se beech mein aa gaye ?

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In this case the message is hardly relevant. Its an old accusation that's been discussed to death.

The relevant part is that of the messenger, Mike Mullen.

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Its their obsession obsession obsession with bad Pakis Pakis Pakis :D

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pakistan has to face the consequences of wat they did in 80s - dividing people in the name of religion spreading hatred for non muslims-were as we put more imphasis in education - thats the fact were as we r ,more secular and educated they r full of crap only minorities of them prevail some sence-hope they turn up in majority and we see a better pakistan.

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^ i can gauge the level of education from your post :)