Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
I say Mr. Cheema resign if he has any dignity left in him, (
An incompetent brigadier-cum-interior minister of an incompetent president-cum-general.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
I cant believe that everyone is still trying to put her name in the top martyrs. Its very clear that she didnt give a damn about democracy. If she did, she would have allowed the leader of the party to be selected democratically. And here on GS no one remembers how she stole millions of dollars from a third world country. I am sure if I check everyones posts about a few years ago, everyone hated her for stealing soo much money from Pakistan, and now suddenly she was the savior of Pakistan. And now a person who can be called the most corrupt in the history of Pakistan, is leading this "pro-democracy" party. She is the last person who can be called martyr.
u should check again in a few years...we'll be saying that sorta stuff about Musharraff too, because as soon as his bubble bursts and he's sent out on exile, u'll start seeing proof of his foreign accounts as well.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
And once again i will say it. I dont see why government would hide whether she died of bullet or the fall. Everyone can see that there was an attempt on her life, and they succeeded, one way or the other. There are alway different theories that come out when such a complex murder is investigated.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
u should check again in a few years...we'll be saying that sorta stuff about Musharraff too, because as soon as his bubble bursts and he's sent out on exile, u'll start seeing proof of his foreign accounts as well.
Benazir's corruption was obvious during her PM time. Her husband was already called mr. 10 percent. With geo and everyone after Musharraf, if no one has found anything about him stealing money so far, I highly doubt it will happen in the future.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
But if the Govt. was right to put that 'theory' out there...then why apologize and take it back? I mean They were so certain how she died, and even explained it 'Scientifically'....the reason why they are retracting their statement is cuz the ppl didn't wanna swallow that one....and had they insisted that's how she really died (the evil lever assassinated her) it would further infuriate people so they had to take that lame 2-bits tale back.
And i'm upset and sad at the same time because it just goes to show how inferior our Govt. and its media expertise and campaign looks to the internationals who have gone to lengths of switching the angle on the video to clearly show the person doing it, while Mr. Cheema stood there showing the video from an angle where the blast was more apparent than the shots....shame on the entire ISB lot for not solidifying their claims and rushing to be politically correct.
So much for a Credible Govt.....now everyone really will not accept the election results if Q-League wins cuz there is no way, it's a fact that majority is against them....i wouldn't be surprised if they still came on TV to claim their victory and then 2 days later put on a fake smile apologizing 'miscount'
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
Benazir's corruption was obvious during her PM time. Her husband was already called mr. 10 percent. With geo and everyone after Musharraf, if no one has found anything about him stealing money so far, I highly doubt it will happen in the future.
Trust me! Check back in a while...u'll be surprised!
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
But if the Govt. was right to put that 'theory' out there...then why apologize and take it back? I mean They were so certain how she died, and even explained it 'Scientifically'....the reason why they are retracting their statement is cuz the ppl didn't wanna swallow that one....and had they insisted that's how she really died (the evil lever assassinated her) it would further infuriate people so they had to take that lame 2-bits tale back.
I think the easiest solution is to take her body out and do an autopsy. Otherwise its useless to argue. But mr 10 % will not allow it. if he does allow it then there wont be any controversy, and they want controversy at this time.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
I think the easiest solution is to take her body out and do an autopsy. Otherwise its useless to argue. But mr 10 % will not allow it. if he does allow it then there wont be any controversy, and they want controversy at this time.
While you seem hooked on that...and i agree he should have allowed for an external autopsy, nothing invasive and there are female specialists who could have performed it.
However, you say nothing about the lack of govermentship the musharraf lot has shown, or are you convinced they're still the good guys?
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
While you seem hooked on that...and i agree he should have allowed for an external autopsy, nothing invasive and there are female specialists who could have performed it.
However, you say nothing about the lack of govermentship the musharraf lot has shown, or are you convinced they're still the good guys?
I dont know who is the good guy. I know for sure that benazir and her husband are not the good guys. The only sad thing about her death is that she stole millions of dollars and now there is no hisaab kitaab. She is suddenly a martyr. Every other person want her to die of bullet wound. Her husband doesnt want autopsy.
I just dont understand why would musharraf try to hide the cause of death. I dont see anything that the govt can gain from it. I dont know why NO ONE would just consider it an honest mistake on part of the doctor. Why does every single thing has to be planned by Musharraf.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
I dont know who is the good guy. I know for sure that benazir and her husband are not the good guys. The only sad thing about her death is that she stole millions of dollars and now there is no hisaab kitaab. She is suddenly a martyr. Every other person want her to die of bullet wound. Her husband doesnt want autopsy. I just dont understand why would musharraf try to hide the cause of death. I dont see anything that the govt can gain from it. I dont know why NO ONE would just consider it an honest mistake on part of the doctor. Why does every single thing has to be planned by Musharraf.
Correction: she HAS died of bullet wounds.
Correction2: The doctor did not make any mistakes, he issued the report he was 'required' to. So it could reflect and allow Govt. to muster a response, which obviously failed miserably. Secondly, no one is saying it has to be planned by him per se. But him being a righteous man that he claims to be, he should have fired Cheema for showing such amateur ministership and twisting the truth to taint the event that took place. Moreover, he himself should have come to calm the people and fired the police squad in charge of security of Bhutto Rally, obviously there was no police in sight, that in comparison to the number of people surrounding the vehicle of a prominent politician. So yes the blame does lie on him and all those under him.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
Correction: she HAS died of bullet wounds.
Correction2: The doctor did not make any mistakes, he issued the report he was 'required' to. So it could reflect and allow Govt. to muster a response, which obviously failed miserably. Secondly, no one is saying it has to be planned by him per se. But him being a righteous man that he claims to be, he should have fired Cheema for showing such amateur ministership and twisting the truth to taint the event that took place. Moreover, he himself should have come to calm the people and fired the police squad in charge of security of Bhutto Rally, obviously there was no police in sight, that in comparison to the number of people surrounding the vehicle of a prominent politician. So yes the blame does lie on him and all those under him.
Let me ask u something. If someone tries to kill you once while u are rallying in a car. Would you sit inside your bullet proof car or stick your head out and give everyone a fair chance to shoot you. Please dont blame Musharraf for Benazir's stupidity. It is impossible to provide security when u do such big rallies, and do whatever u want to do. Why would the police be fired for this?? isnt it common sense that she sits inside her car to make sure she doesnt get shot? Why blame someone else for her stupidity??
Secondly everyone was told that her security was trained from America. What happened to them?
And lastly, Cheema probably said what the doctors told him and what they got from the initial investigation. I just dont believe the govt would lie, because when u lie, u gain something from it. ANd the govt is not gaining anything from lying here. It may just be an honest mistake. She probably did die from bullet wound, but may be the initial investigation didnt show that.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
someone pulled a hathora group on her in the car?
but then u are assuming that the medical report is correct, frnakly, I dont trust anything said by anyone, govt, PPP, anyone.
Only an Autopsy can prove or disprove all theories. I want to know how and who shot her in the Abdomen, as informed by Farooq Naik (BB's lawyer and senior PPP official). What does Zardari has to hide?
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
Read and see Makhdoom Amin and Naheed Khan's interviews, they were in the car. There was no wound in abdomen. Only head and neck is reported by those who were in the car.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that ‘lever killed Bhutto’ theory
Autopsy is not required to stop being a dumb-a** incompetent interior minister who does not know what he is talking about.
Your dumb Cheema has mad Pakistan a laughing stock in the world.
Interior Minister Hamid Nawaz on Monday even asked people and the media to forgive and ignore the comment made Friday night about the sunroof by Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
I just dont believe the govt would lie, because when u lie, u gain something from it. ANd the govt is not gaining anything from lying here. It may just be an honest mistake. She probably did die from bullet wound, but may be the initial investigation didnt show that.
This is perplexing me as well. WHat wud government gain from coming out with an unplausible theory. Or is it that we have so incompetent spokemen that they just say what they feel like without aking help from professionals.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
Does it matter whether she died because of hitting her head on the lever or by the bullet. Even if she hit her head and died because of that, it will still be because of the explosion/ firing. I dont know why everyone is focusing too much on this issue. It could have just been an honest mistake on part of the doctors. The fact still remains that a person responsible for stealing 1.6 billion dollars(?) has become a martyr in Pakistan.
yes it does
if its natural death then ALLAH SWT send his blessings on pakistanis.
if bullet death then she'z hero, as her enemies were afraid of her.......
ps. autopsy is rather a separate issue. first she was a PM and autopsy is not something nobel. second, the jokes presented by govt, leaving no marks of them being accurate so they cant be trusted either.
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that ‘lever killed Bhutto’ theory
pakistani govt bunch of lying shmucks 
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that 'lever killed Bhutto' theory
yes it does
if its natural death then ALLAH SWT send his blessings on pakistanis.
if bullet death then she'z hero, as her enemies were afraid of her.......
ps. autopsy is rather a separate issue. first she was a PM and autopsy is not something nobel. second, the jokes presented by govt, leaving no marks of them being accurate so they cant be trusted either.
u mean if it was bullet death then it was outside allah's jurisdiction and will? hmmmmm
no bullet in skull pr xrays, no exit wound per doctors
goli dissolve ho gayee?
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that ‘lever killed Bhutto’ theory
Come on. Are u serious?? Dying because someone shot at you and because of that you hit your head with something and die? IS that natural death to u??
As far as being hero is concerned, her death sealed her to be a hero anyways.
And zardari can be trusted?? 
Re: Pakistani Government retracts that ‘lever killed Bhutto’ theory
Contrary to the original rather misleading report:-
Pakistan sticks to death cause
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=204490&Sn=WORL&IssueID=30288