Re: Pakistani arrested in Chile
Pero Por que????
“Allegations against Pakistani youth can not be dyed xenophobia”
His concern over the arrest of Pakistan Mohammed Saif-ur-Rehman Khan said Sen. Alejandro Navarro, who said to expect "the accusations made against this young are not stained xenophobia and start generating persecution and discrimination towards persons of the Arab world, Muslims or the Islamic world, under the aged look of the axis of evil. "
The congressman stressed that "xenophobia and must be investigated without generalizing or demonizing Muslims and Islamists. We all know how xenophobia starts with ends but do not know. It is therefore necessary that the evidence provided by the U.S. embassy should be carefully analyzed and verified. Do not want these records are like weapons of mass destruction that Bush used to justify the invasion of Iraq. "
"We want, he added, know exactly the truth of history that justified the arrest and deportation to occur without justification express choices. By the way, strikes us that this person has been arrested in an embassy and then has been spent the night in a police station, if one understands that the embassies are foreign territory. "
Navarro said that the law must be above racial and political prejudices. We can not continue watching the Islamist Muslim citizens or from the logic of evil axis and even the U.S. government relies. Chile can not develop into a branch of Guantanamo. "
Finally, the legislator said that "hopefully this accusation on alleged terrorist offense did not finish as others, for Mapuche or the most recent case of Elena Varela, who after a long period of detention, two years for the documentary, are raved innocent. "
Translated from a Chilean site..navarro.cl
Hi, Im having a very hard time browsing & posting today. Bad net service.
I wanted to quote your post in which you said they took 'copies' of your brother's documents. Does anyone know what kind of 'chemical' / material is used in a copier's ink other than carbon? Could it be that the 'copies' they made of your brother's documents contained the ink with the same material that 'explosives' are made of? Please get that checked.
The translated articles from Chile newspapers do not make much sense but I have complete faith & confidence of your brother being provided justice & a fair trial due to the fact that he has faced this mishap in a non-muslim country. If God forbid this was any muslim or worse an arab muslim country, chances of your brother being given justice would have been meagre. I am hoping that Chile judiciary does not act like judiciary of any other muslim country (Yeah, I know such a shame for all of us muslims) & provides justice to your brother despite the fact that he is a muslim & a Pakistan hence, naturally attractiing all the bad one can imagine of, thanks to India-mossad & our very own ‘islamic’ talibans.
Apart from that, re trying to get Pak government to help, I guess they’re ‘trying’, maybe………….. you can try to get their attention through media. Hopefully, that should help.
Here is more information. Looks like he may have came in contact with pan-islamist egpytian nut job. perhaps, that is how he may accidently (hope) have gottten/come in contact with this substance. Wish him well!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/world/pakistani-detained-at-us-embassy-in-chile-is-calm-and-doesnt-seem-a-terrorist-colleagues-say-93663749.html
SANTIAGO, CHILE — Police spent hours Thursday searching the apartment of an Egyptian man who was friendly with a Pakistani national arrested at the U.S. Embassy as part of a terrorism investigation.
Officers dressed head-to-toe in white anti-contamination suits carried out a computer, compact discs, an agenda and a cellular phone, police said. The Egyptian man who reportedly befriended Mohammed Saifur Rehman Khan at a Santiago mosque wasn’t seen by reporters outside, and police released no information about him.
Khan, 28, is being held for a week under Chile’s anti-terrorism laws while being investigated for alleged explosives violations. He was summoned to the embassy Monday because his U.S. visa had been revoked, and arrested after security equipment detected traces of explosives on cell phone and papers.
Authorities have not publicly identified the explosive, but the Chilean newspaper La Segunda reported it was Tetryl, a compound used to increase the explosive power of TNT. Police in white suits also took away Khan’s computer earlier this week.
Colleagues and acquaintances say Khan, 28, is a calm and gentlemanly man who doesn’t fit the popular image of a terrorist.
At Santiago’s EuroHotel, where Khan earned about $115 a month in a work-study position, workers said he didn’t dress luxuriously and had about three suits that he rotated. They were puzzled by the turn of events, which came just over a week after the failed car-bomb attempt in New York’s Times Square that has been blamed on a Pakistani man.
“He was a complete gentleman, very proper, like the gentlemen of old,” said Alex Garcia, head of the hotel’s reception and reservations.
“Someone who is a hotelier recognizes when another person knows the profession, and Khan knew it. He had a vocation for service and was very attentive,” said Garcia, adding that Khan seemed “tranquil, very correct and educated, speaking about five languages.”
Khan came to Chile in January to study Spanish and the hotel industry after staying with his brother, a doctoral student at Michigan State University, for a month last year, according to the Pakistani Embassy.
“We have many questions and few answers,” said Pakistani Ambassador Burhanul Islam, who promised legal and consular support to Khan.
Khan’s public defender, Francisco Geisse, said that evidence thus far “doesn’t show the existence of a crime.”
In Santiago, Garcia worked with Khan daily for almost a month and was also his Spanish instructor.
Khan said he was born in Pakistan on Aug. 21, 1982, and told of being the son of a retired doctor and from a middle-class family, Garcia said.
“I think his father … must have sent him money,” Garcia said.
Mohammed Rumie, secretary-general of Chile’s Islamic community and spokesman for the As-Salam mosque, told The Associated Press that Khan “came every Friday to the mosque, like all Muslims.”
“He didn’t appear a conflictive or problematic person — quite the opposite, he was very silent, very calm,” Rumie said.
Asked about reports that Khan belonged to Islam’s Salafi movement, Rumie said he did not know where the reports had come from and that his As-Salam mosque doesn’t adhere to such movements.
The Salafi movement preaches an ultraconservative Islam similar to Saudi Arabia’s Wahhabi strain, strictly segregating the sexes and interpreting religious texts literally. Salafis tend to be nonpolitical, but a minority jihadist stream embraces al-Qaida’s call for holy war against the West.
The U.S. ambassador to Chile, Paul Simon, said there was no indication that the embassy was the target of an attack.
Khan was detained nine days after Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistan-born U.S. citizen, allegedly tried to set off a bomb-laden SUV in Times Square after receiving training from the Taliban in Pakistan. But by then, the U.S. had already decided to revoke Khan’s visa, State Department spokesman Mark Toner said.
“This issue predates the Times Square incident and we are not aware of a connection between the two,” he said.
State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the U.S. government will cooperate fully with the Chilean investigation of Khan.
“There were solid grounds for apprehending him and he will be charged under Chilean laws,” Crowley said.
The Pakistani Embassy said Khan had been called to the U.S. Embassy “to have an interview regarding his documents, in particular his passport and his academic certifications.”
Khan “denied the accusations that he possessed explosive materials and the charges of links to terrorist organizations,” the statement said.
“The Embassy has not received any details regarding (criminal) charges or any solid evidence that establishes that Saifur Rehman (Khan) has any link with a terrorist organization or that he has the intention of committing a terrorist act at the U.S. Embassy in Santiago,” the statement added.
“He would have to be a very bad terrorist to enter the embassy with traces of explosive material, knowing that the embassy is a dangerous place where he would face serious accusations if he were caught,” Islam said.
Khan briefly spoke to reporters through the window of a police vehicle before he was taken to the high-security prison where he is being held under Chile’s anti-terrorism law. “No, I am not a terrorist. I do not have nothing to do with bombs. I am a working man,” he said in strongly accented English
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/world/pakistani-detained-at-us-embassy-in-chile-is-calm-and-doesnt-seem-a-terrorist-colleagues-say-93663749.html#ixzz0nqXcaRDy](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/world/pakistani-detained-at-us-embassy-in-chile-is-calm-and-doesnt-seem-a-terrorist-colleagues-say-93663749.html#ixzz0nqXcaRDy)
Re: Pakistani arrested in Chile
Actually, enough of this bullsh!t that "Pakistanis are out to kill Americans". I am now inclined to think that the dr. aafia episode could be not any different than Saif. I am realising that despite the mixed stories that we have heard about dr. aafia, she was most probably trapped just like your brother.
Formal statement of Saif’s family
People of both Chile and Pakistan are stunned since the last 7 days after the dramatic arrest of Muhammad Saif Ur Rehman Khan. The young Pakistani national – Saif Khan aged (28) had been detained in the US Embassy after he had a short discussions about his personal information and his 5 years valid US multiple visa he obtained last year. Saif went to the US embassy in Santiago over an invitation from the US Embassy personnel on May12th after consulting with Pakistani envoy in Chile and the director of his educational institute (eFronteres) where he studied.
Saif Ur Rehman has now been detained in a maximum security prison even without having found evidence or links with any terrorist group or any extremist political and religious party which could potentially make Chilean authorities inclined towards charging him under anti terror laws. Having residue on clothes, cell phone and documents is a potential investigation scenario but surely it does not convict the suspect with terrorist charges.
We, as Saif family and as Pakistani nation urge the people of Chile, the Chilean government and all legal and social sectors of Chile to come forward in this time of great distress and help the cause of saving a poor young man who has a peaceful, loving, educated and respectful personality as described by his fellows in Chile, United Sated, United Kingdom and Pakistan.
The case is in Chilean justice system and we express our trust and hope that Chilean authorities would hold up their values of justice, impartiality and humanity. As a family of an innocent young man, at this same time we do recognize the need of stressing upon the Chilean government that they have to come up with the standards of justice and humanity that they any system of justice should be known for.
We have an absolute trust that Saif is innocent. This trust comes from number of factors which needs to be considered cautiously. Saif does not fit in to the image of a terrorist at all. His personality and that of his family is all open to the world. His thoughts, the life style Saif he has and his actions are utterly contrary to what a terrorist or a troublesome person has. The proof of this can be seen on the blog set up by his family at http://innocentsaif.wordpress.com/
The trust factor of his innocence grows in confidence when Chileans and US authorities after passing 7 days could not establish any link with any of terror or religious extremist societies and groups. The point of Saif being a Muslim and attending the Friday prayer gathering weekly or visiting a religious event once in life time does not make him suspect by any means.
The single point of investigation of having some residue of TNT on his belonging cannot establish any legal ground which can eventually make Saif a convict under terrorism laws of any country. The research shows that any person can have such residue in today’s contaminated cities such as Santiago that already suffered a major earthquake and is in some process of rebuilding. This alleged TNT residue on Saif’s belonging does not have any history as Saif has already travelled to US passing through tight checks and security scanners.
In conclusion, we would request Chilean authorizes to stay unbiased and help the truth to prevail. Currently, Saif is being held without being legally charged. The fact that Saif suffers with Irrelative Bowel Syndrome (IBS) disease makes this matter very perturbing. This situation maligns the whole investigation and leaves an unfair impact over the investigation process veiled with secrecy. We also demand that visa should be issued urgently to family of Saif who are desperate to meet their son who had spent more than 7 days in person without talking to them even once.
We believe that any effort of the Chilean, Pakistani and the world media in helping this cause would bring the nations of both the countries closer fostering the mutual trust and respect in the comity of nations.
Re: Pakistani arrested in Chile
Poor Saif, i really feel sorry for the innocent guy and his family.
Hopefully he will be released soon.
And then Americans wonder why people hate them.............
Not trying to derail the thread about it was quite shocking the way i was interviewed when i arrived on Melbourne airport from Pakistan, i was taken to a room (alongwith couple of middle eastern looking people) and had to answer some weired questions such as
Where in Pakistan did you travel to?? Purpose of your travel??
Why did you go for such a short time?? I said my leave wasn't approved for longer than that..........the girls asks me how long have you been working for in that company???? I said 4 years and she asks me, why didn't you get enough leave then??? I told her because i am on a secondment, she kept on asking stupid questions.
I asked her if you are asking me all this because i returned from Pakistan and she was like NO it's routine (although only 3 people alongwith me were stopped) but Pakistan is a high risk country.
I can only imagine what Saif is going through.