Pakistan’s link to liquid bomb is a false flag!

Mods, please don’t merge this topic with other useless fear mongering threads on London plot. The information contained here is really important.

The information regarding the connection of Pakistan to latest London terror plot was known for month yet it was deliberately timed for public release. It was done on purpose to re-package the so called ‘war on terror’
When media released the information on terror plot soon after that ISI identified Rashid Rauf as “the link between the plot’s planners and British-based Muslims who were allegedly preparing to carry out attacks on transatlantic flights.”

Lot of people are not aware of this fact that Rashid Rauf is affiliated with Lashkar-e-Taiba and this group fully operated and funded by ISI and this is according to former National Security Agency (NSA) official Wayne Madsen.

So we are talking about an OFFICAL NSA guy (not some conspiracy nut) informing that Lashkar-e-Taiba is controlled and funded by ISI and ISI itself is nothing but a puppet of Al-CIAeda and MI6.
It shows that the mastermind of latest liquid bomb plot , Rahid Rauf was operating under the oversight and direction ISI and by proxy US and British intelligence.
ISI has a history filled with creating and protecting terrorist cells associated with a fact that ISI is known Al_CIAeda front. A revelation that Rashid Rauf is under ISI control is not a surprise. It makes perfect sense to conclude that entire pretense was cooked and organized by Neo fascists UK /US leaders and it was sold as promotional propaganda for the increased surveillance and control of UK and US citizens.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400189&in_page_id=1770

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hahaha the Wayne Madsen Report.

Soon I will start the "Ohioguy Blog", and everything I have to say will be quoted as fact.

haha

Denial is genetic with you guys huh?

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Yes you can start an “Ohio Blog” but the difference is Ohio Guy is not an NSA official. So whatever you’ll spew on that blog is not going to have any credibility.

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Its not news, ISI always has done its dirty work through its stooges LeT, JeM and gangsters like Dawood so as not to implicate Pakistan directly in any terror attacks. Maybe the Islamists in ISI wanted to teach the US and UK a lesson to avenge the Iraq war.

By the way if CIA and MI6 controlled ISI then they would have no need for Musharraf and major problems in Kashmir and Afghanistan would be under control.

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Don't you think that will stop US weaponry purchase?

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hahahaha The guy you quote was a Naval Officer “Assigned to the NSA” in the Reagan Administration. He could have been a junior officer incharge of housekeeping. He makes no claim to be an analyst, or to know anything vaugely secret. Hardly an NSA insider. Here is his resume as he published it. Sounds like he has run Norton Utilities a lot.

Wayne Madsen is an investigative journalist, nationally distributed columnist, and author who has covered Washington, DC, politics, national security, and intelligence issues since 1994. He has written for The Village Voice, The Progressive, CAQ, Counterpunch, and the* Intelligence Newsletter *(based in Paris). Madsen is the author of Genocide and Covert Operations in Africa 1993-1999, co-author of America’s Nightmare: The Presidency of George Bush II, and the forthcoming Jaded Tasks: Big Oil, Black Ops & Brass Plates. Madsen is also the author of

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/images/about_wm1.jpg

The Handbook of Personal Data Protection (London: Macmillan, 1992), an acclaimed reference book on international data protection law.

Madsen is a former U.S. Naval officer who was assigned to the National Security Agency during the Reagan administration. He also has some twenty years experience in computer security and data privacy. He has also worked for the Naval Data Automation Command, Department of State, RCA Corporation, and Computer Sciences Corporation.

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^^ It seems pretty impressive resume to me.

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A 1992 book on personal data protection? Whoo whee. Bet that has a lot of tips I could use. As far as I know, you are quoting a computer geek who may have spent as little as a year in the NSA 25 years ago. He has no expertise on Intelligence, he writes about techincal computer issues. I am glad you are so impressed by his resume, but he frankly has no credible backround, even assuming all of the things he claims to have done are true. Just one more internet speculator.

But, what ever makes you happy.

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No...I don't think so...ISI has a unique quality from its birth which surpasses any intelligence agency...that ISI is not responsible to anybody but to itself...peolpe who think that ISI is even answerable to Musharraf...live in a dream world...

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Off course it pretty convenient for people to disregard any proof or evidence no matter how credible it is if it is against their ideology. This thread is not for these people. I can provide several convincing evidence to prove ISI is deeply infiltrated by CIA and MI6. But again naysayers will come up with another lame excuse that this guy or that guy has no integrity. People out there in a denial are bunch of fools.

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The ministry of defence gave a statement that they have no control over ISI. So, ISI having links to Taliban and LeT is not surprising, the rest, Allah knows.

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MI6 and CIA having links to taliban, osama (al qaeda), and saddam hussain is no secret too. the only difference is they quit and 2nd day say we never met this guy before ;)

LeT is banned in Pakistan and no operated by ISI.

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ISI is controlled by the Army, however - the Army simply doesn’t allow the Ministry of defence to tell it what to tell ISI to do.

In a government like what pakistan has today, where the President is also Chief of Army Staff, this means that ISI is directly accountable to the President whereas it does not let itselt be accountable to the civilian Ministry of Defence.

In other words, the Head of State, by virtue of dual-role as COAS, controls ISI. Meaning it is not, as you imply, a rogue agency. It is in practice accountable to the Head of State, but not to the Head of Government. (Pakistan separates the two through the positions of President and Prime Minister).

Only if Musharraf leaves the Army does he no longer exercise control over ISI. Remeber… right now he can unilaterally remove or assign anyone he wants to any position in ISI, it is one of his abilities as COAS.