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As we read/seen on various news channel regarding recent issues/supports/oppose between Pakistan, KSA and Yemen. In this regard, I’ll put forward few questions to know what is your view and how Pakistan should react 
Questions are:
Pakistan should/shouldn’t Support KSA? why?
Pakistan should/shouldn’t Support Yemen? why?
Pakistan should/shouldn’t arbitrate between KSA and Yemen? Why?
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
Stop poking into other countries affairs, deal with our own first
Like as if saudis haven't make enough mess in pakistan that they need to make more
Problems that occurred for being with america against afghanistan should be remember
Or is large sum of money being offered by the saudis?
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
No to all
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
Since the control of the government of yemen is changed, they warned KSA will be attacked. In response to that KSA done what should be done and now Pakistan pledged to help KSA [according to various media channel]. Although both countries are Muslims countries, so what role Pakistan shall play here?
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
Few things Pakistan can do
Pakistan should try to reconcile, it is in no body's interest to have a war in Middle-east. To do that, Pakistan can first of all call for an OIC meeting, followed by Arab League meeting and try to find a solution where war is not only option.
I guess tough economic sanctions and these kind of boycotts can achieve lot more than a direct attack and war.
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
bilkul sath daina chahiye saudi arab ka :cobra:
saudi](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=saudi)
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
Filhal aisi koi bat naheen hey keonkah hamara media aor kuch log iran key mukhalif qouton ki himayat mein maray ja rahey hain aor khas tor par moom bati mafia aab pics utha kar aa jay ga kah yemen mein zulem ho gia jo kah shaam k halat par chars pe ker soye hoye thay :cobra:
filhal main bhi ek suta lay lon zara :sunnyboy:
#moombati_mafia](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=moombati_mafia)
Dunya News: Pakistan will defend Saudi Arabia but not escalate conflict: Khawaja Asif.
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
hum pahlay bhi Saudi arab key help kar shukay hain :cobra:
1979
[RIGHT] میں جوہیمن یا جوہینا نامی شخص نے اپنے سینکڑوں دہشت گرد ساتھیوں کے ساتھ خانہ کعبہ پر قبٖضہ کر لیا اور اعلان کیا کہ اسکا کزن محمد بن عبد اللہ القحطانی امام مہدی ہے اور ساری دنیا کے مسلمانوں کو اس کے ہاتھ پر بیعت کرنی چاہئے ۔ اور خانہ کعبہ میں موجود سینکڑوں حاجیوں کو یرغمال بنا لیا ۔اس کے اس عمل سے پوری دنیا کے مسلمان سناٹے میں آگئے اور فوری طور پر دنیا بھر کے علماء نے اس کے خلاف فتوی دیا اور خانہ کعبہ کے اندر کاروائی کرنے کی بھی اجازت دی ۔
وہاں سعودی آرمی اور فرنچ آرمی موجود تھی ۔ دہشت گردوں کے پاس سنائپرز اور شارپ شوٹرز تھے جنہوں نے مسجدالحرام میں جگہ جگہ پوزیشینیں سنبھال لیں ۔ دو دن تک مقابلہ ہوا لیکن تقریباً ڈیڑھ یا دوسو کے قریب فوجی ہلاک ہونے کے باوجود سعودی اور فرنچ آرمی ذرا بھی کامیابی حاصل نہ کر سکے ۔
پوری دنیا کی طرح پاکستان میں بھی زبردست بے چینی تھی اور جنرل ضیاء الحق نے ایس ایس جی کمانڈوز کا ایک دستہ ترتیب دیا تھا اور وہ مسلسل سعودی عرب سے رابطے میں تھے کہ انہیں آپریشن کرنے کا موقع دیا جائے ۔ بالا آخر دو دن بعد پاک فوج کو کاروائی کرنے کا موقع دیا گیا ۔
پاک فوج کے اس دستے کی قیادت ایک کپتان کر رہے تھے اور کہا جاتا ہے کہ اسنے آپریشن سے پہلے کعبے کی حرمت کے لیے جوانوں کو جان دینے پر آمادہ کیا ۔ نہایت کم وقت میں آرپریشن کی منصوبہ بندی کی گئی ۔ پاکستانی کمانڈوز نے دہشت گردوں کے سنائپرز سے نمٹنے کے لیے ایک عجیب ترکیب استعمال کی اور پورے مسجدالحرام میں پانی چھوڑا گیا ۔ پھر اس دستے کے کمانڈر نے سعودی حکومت سے فرمائش کی ہے اسکے جوانوں کو ہیلی کاپٹر کی مدد سے مسجد میں جگہ جگہ ڈراپ کیا جائے ۔ سعودی حکومت نے اس میں لاحق شدید خطرے کا اظہار کیا لیکن پاک آرمی کے اصرار پر انہیں مسجد میں گرایا جانے لگا ۔ جس وقت انہٰیں مسجد میں گرایا گیا اسی وقت پوری مسجد کی گیلی زمین میں کرنٹ چھوڑا گیا جسکی وجہ سے دہشت گردوں کے شارپ شوٹرز اور سنائپرز کچھ دیر کے لیے غیر موءثر ہوگئے ۔ پاک فوج نے غیر معمولی سرعت سے تمام دہشت گردوں پر قابو پالیا بغیر کسی جانی نقصان کے اور سب کو فوری طور پر گرفتار کر لیا ۔ تمام یرغمالیوں کو رہائی دلائی گئی ۔
ایس ایس جی کے ان کمانڈوز اور پاک آرمی کے ان جوانوں کو دل سے سلام
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Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
^^ Abhi bhi agr Khana Ka'aba ya Madina per baat ayee tu we are there, even if the integrity of Saudi is in danger, we are there... only we shouldn't be there in Attacking Yemen..
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
bhai logo, I am embarrassed to say but Pak has been acting like a bhakari infornt of saudi arabia for so long
Saudi has done so much investment in Pakistan... for what? for free? they have given us so much money...free oil for years, cash...and we took everything with no self respect, went to them begging for more money whenever there was a problem and now we are talking about our strategic interest..yea right
did you guys notice how Saudi king asked our PM and amry cheif come meet him.... and they went to meet saudi king in one second. how embarrassing. that shd be enough signal for us who is the boss
saudi needs us..dont u think suadi king shd have come to pakistan with a request? why didnt he come? why did we go to him even when they need us so badly.
izzat banani partiee hai bhai logo
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
In this war, Pakistan should mind own business and do not have to get involved. Pakistan do not need to import trouble to Pakistan, neither lives or rule of Saudi Kings is worth for Pakistani soldiers to die for them and their rule.
Whatever written above is nothing but BS.
Fact is that, SA always blackmailed Pakistan and interfered in Pakistan internal matters. In 1965 war, Muslim countries that helped Pakistan was mostly Iran, then Turkey and then Indonesia. Pakistan airforce of the time had over 100 F-86 and were comfortable with it. Thus, Iran bought more than 90 F-86 (Sabre) from Germany and handed it over to Pakistan (I believe it was 98 F-86 that Iran gave … and it stayed with Pakistan even after the war). What I remember, Turkey also gave Pakistan 2 F-104 star-fighter to help Pakistan Air force. Indonesia sent several submarines to help Pakistan and Pakistan blocked Indian Bombay sea port with submarines.
In 1971 war, Karachi was unsafe for Pakistan navy and Indian gun boats were all around Karachi. Pakistan also was worried about security of Pakistan air bases. Iran opened their sea ports as well as air bases as Pakistan thought security of Pakistan airbases was compromised. Only safe heaven for Pakistan ships was Iranian port (Bandar Abbas). Similarly, many Pakistani aircraft also started using Iranian air bases. I do not know about army help, but it is possible that Iran helped there too. Most of Iranian arsenal were Americans same as Pakistan, and thus their help was most welcomed thing.
Saudi Arabia never helped Pakistan materially, other than giving oil for differed payment (that Pakistan had to pay anyhow), some jobs to Pakistanis and various type of bribes (money or whatever in their personal account) to some Pakistani politicians (especially Thug and Liar Nawaz) … or occasional money to Pakistan to increase their political influences. They never sided with Pakistan in Kashmir issue, or used oil for Kashmir cause, or broke ties with India on Kashmir cause, or even given Pakistan military hardware that they could never use and is rotting with them.
Actually Pakistan, Iran, Iraq and Turkey (along with UK) at the time were member of CENTO (founded in 1955) dissolved in 1979 (Zia time). and used to help each other a lot (well, country that mostly needed help was Pakistan).
Similarly Pakistan, Iran and Turkey was member of RCD (founded in 1964) that also got dissolved in 1979 (Zia time).
Actually, after Iranian revolution and due to Saudi influence over Zia, Zia moved Pakistan away from Iran and Turkey and moved towards Saudi Arabia, and due to that, Pakistan lost a lot. Pakistan imported unIslamic terrorist beliefs from Saudi Arabia funded by Saudi money and propaganda, and because of that, today sectarian problems as well as terrorism is rooted in Pakistan.
Saudi Propaganda (as what is written above) is such that it has brain washed many Pakistanis, but fact is that, Saudi never gave Pakistan any thing without demanding and getting their pound of flesh.
Many time Saudi Arabia threatened Pakistan of dire consequence if Pakistan do not agree with their demand, like deporting Pakistani workers if Thug Nawaz is not sent to them and using Pakistani armed forces as their prostitute, calling and using them whenever they like, and treating Pakistani workers in Saudi Arabia like tissue paper, beheading many for various reasons. No country in the world has blackmailed and used Pakistan more than Saudi Arabia for their evil works. Now they have their puppet in Pakistan as Prime Minister.
Anyhow, in this war it is best for Pakistan to keep away and watch the show without involvement. Pakistan do not need to dirty their hand, increasing tension within Pakistan, importing further terrorism, as well as behaving like a slave to Saudi Arabia.
Just imagine, Thug Nawaz declared that Pakistan would stand behind Saudi Arabia security, and Pakistan has already got divided.
Shias and Sunnis (Berelvies) demanding that Pakistan should stay away from this war, do not side with any Muslim community fighting in that region, and do not have to get involved in Saudi Arabia whatever happens there due to infighting between Muslim communities within the region.
On the other hand Ahle-Hadis and Deobandis (including Hafiz Saeed and Mufti Naeem) are happy that Pakistan is going to support Saudi Arabian security concern. Exceptions are political parties headed by Deobandis, that is JUI (Fazlu) and possibly JI are against Pakistan siding with anyone. Almost all Political parties are also against Pakistan taking sides, that includes PTI, MQM, ANP and PPP.
Shows, that Pakistan siding with any of the two in this war would divide Pakistan badly, that could not be good for Pakistan in anyway.
Sectarian polarisation amid air strikes on Yemen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
KARACHI: The launch of air strikes by Saudi Arabia against Iranian-allied Houthi forces in Yemen and talk of Pakistan becoming militarily embroiled in the Gulf conflict stoked sectarian polarisation in the city on Friday.
A leading Shia party staged a protest demonstration against the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as religious leaders representing the Barelvi school of thought termed the attack on Yemen a threat to world peace, while Deobandi clerics threw their weight behind the Arab monarchy.
A large number of people attended a protest demonstration organised by the Majlis-i-Wahdat-i-Muslimeen on Friday in the Kharadar area against the “Saudi-led attacks on Yemen”, warning the government that it should stay away from the kingdom’s policy that would affect harmony among the Muslims.
The founder of Pakistan, Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah, as well as Allama Mohammad Iqbal had always condemned pro-imperialists monarchs of the Middle East and the Turkish regime, said the MWM leaders while addressing the protesters.
“Innocent Yemeni civilians are being massacred brutally like Palestinians of Gaza,” said Mubashir Hassan of the MWM. “Sanaa, Saada and other parts of Yemen are being bombarded the way Zionist Israeli forces bombed Gaza. World silence against the war-mongers is a crime.”
Holding placards, the demonstrators raised slogans against the attacks on Yemen. They were also addressed by Maulana Ali Anwar Jafari, Maulana Ahsan Danish and Ali Hussain Naqvi, who in their speeches expressed solidarity with anti-imperialist Yemenis.
The Sunni organisations representing the Barelvi and Deobandi schools of thought did not hold an event to express their respective viewpoints over the emerging Arab crisis, but statements and sermons of their scholars articulated their positions.
Govt policy hailed
The Sunni Tehreek and the Sunni Ittehad Council endorsed this view in their separate statements. The leaders from both sides asked the government to stay away from toeing any country’s line and make an effort for a peaceful resolution to the issue.
Clerics and leaders of organisations representing the Deobandi school of thought clearly ‘lauded’ the government policy that emerged after Defence Minister Khawaja Asif told parliament that Pakistan was ready to defend Saudi Arabia’s “territorial integrity at any cost” but had not yet decided to join Riyadh’s coalition fighting Yemen rebels.
“This is a welcome sign,” a statement from the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat quoted its leader Allama Aurangzeb Farooqi’s speech before Friday prayers at Jama Masjid Khalilullah.
“Saudi Arabia has always supported Pakistan in the hour of need. The decisive action against Houthi insurgents has identified friends and foes in Islamic states.”
Same thoughts were expressed by Mufti Mohammad Naeem of Jamia Binoria Al Almia in the Site area. Also head of the Tehreek-i-Tahaffuz-i-Harmain Sharifain, Mufti Naeem said that the government decision reflected sentiments of every Pakistani. “To defend Harmain Sharifain is the duty of every Muslim,” he stated.
He said: “First the Houthis were used for bloodshed in Syria and now they have been centred in Yemen only to eye Saudi Arabia as their next target. At this hour the Muslims should unite with Saudi Arabia to defend Harmain Sharifain.”
Statements from Ahle Hadees Action Committee’s leader Syed Ashraf Qureshi and Syed Amir Najeeb also called the government announcement a ‘praise-worthy move’ that should be backed by every segment of society. They said this was not a sectarian dispute but a ‘battle against Islam’, which was needed to be defended by every Muslim.
Govt urged to stay away from crisis
Leaders from the Barelvi school of thought suggested the government stay away from the crisis and also demanded that the Saudi Arabian leadership look for a peaceful resolution of the issue. They called it a conspiracy to hit sectarian harmony in the Muslim states.
“Saudi Arabia took the action unilaterally without taking the Muslim world into confidence and without calling a meeting of the Organisation of Islamic Countries,” said Shah Muhammad Owais Noorani Siddiqi of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Pakistan while addressing a party meeting called to review arrangements for the upcoming Nizam-i-Mustafa Convention.
“If a country attacks the other overnight, it would definitely be called aggression. The Muslim world is already in crisis whether it’s Jordan, Egypt, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Tunisia, Iraq or other countries. In this hour, we need to forge unity instead of getting divided in the name of sect or minor issues.”
“Saudi Arabia attacks on Yemen are a threat to world peace,” said Sunni Tehreek chief Sarwat Ejaz Qadri while calling for a peaceful solution that could save hundreds of thousands of lives and renew much-needed sectarian harmony in the Muslim states.
Similar views were expressed by Tariq Mehboob of the Sunni Ittehad Council in his statement. He said: “If Saudi Arabia counts itself a true Islamic state then it should reflect the sentiments of Muslims and not world powers. Pakistan forces should not be used by any other state for its interest in the name of Islam and ideology.”
Saudi air strikes were also criticised by Sunni Ittehad Council chairman Sahibzada Hamid Raza in a telephonic talk with party leaders in Karachi, according to a press statement.
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
:k:
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
Another thing is that one country we revere (Saudi arabia) and other which we share long borders. It's upto the government to decide if they want to add iran to the list of enemies in the region after India and Afghanistan...
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If we see on the other hand, we'll came to know that so far Iran, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait and Yemen are under the influence of ****tee regime who planned a long time ago to gearing up around the KSA and that after taking over the control in the nearby neighbors countries so that they finally can easily take-over the KSA and the whole ME.
Maybe this is the reason why Pakistan should support KSA.
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
^^^ If Kingdom in Saudi Arabia falls, than what it has to do with Pakistan, and why Pakistan should get involved? ... Pakistan is not their slave to fight for them or risk their life for these Kings, especially when involving there would cause sectarian turmoil in Pakistan.
Actually, name given to the area by Prophet (SAW) was Jazeeratul-Arabia, but now it is occupied by family of Saud, who also changed the name given by Prophet (SAW) to Saudi Arabia (Arabia of Saud). That is a big curse and shame on Muslims that they tolerate such thing.
I would only say that if Saudi Arabia falls (or is near to falling), Pakistan armed forces should move in and capture Hijaz, than form a non political, non racial, non sectarian government in Hijaz, where all Muslims can go and perform their religious rites on neutral ground.
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If we see on the other hand, we'll came to know that so far Iran, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait and Yemen are under the influence of ****tee regime who planned a long time ago to gearing up around the KSA and that after taking over the control in the nearby neighbors countries so that they finally can easily take-over the KSA and the whole ME.
Maybe this is the reason why Pakistan should support KSA.
Which regime? Iraq is a Shia country and in their control, Lebanon is 50-50 (of muslim population), Yemen is also almost 50 % Shia. By the way the other option in Yemen is alqaeda. Anyways Bahrain is also majority Shia. Basically this is war of influence between Shiism and wahabbism.
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
Is the decision to go into Yemen now official?
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Anyone heard of the prophecy of Najd?
It's so accurate.
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Is the decision to go into Yemen now official?
Pakistan do not have Kingdom neither it is Jageer of anyone, so no decision is confirmed unless it is from Assembly, and even then, those who would go there (Army), they would have to agree first, and why would they?
Anyone heard of the prophecy of Najd?
It's so accurate.
Yea, I have read the hadith. From that hadith it seems clear that two horns of Shayatan to rise from 'Najd' mentioned are 'Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab' from Najd and 'Muhammad ibn Saud' from Najd. But what that has to do with present situation in Yemen?
Actually, Hadith talk about blessing for Syria and Yemen, but presently they are getting wrong kind of blessing. :) ... Anyhow, I believe Syria mentioned in hadith is not present day Syria, but Syria of hadith are places in Saudi Arabia north of Hijaz (as, in those days, those lands were part of Greater Syria)
Re: Pakistan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia
Parayi shadi main abdullah deewana