was Pak really insulted in the islmic summit or are we over-reacting?
we think we are one of the leading Muslim nations but are we ?
some saying that we are a beggar nation…kabiee saudi say bheek mang lee, kabiee usa say and kabiee china say…and beggars have no izzat
I dont consider it as a insult rather ignore since they didnt invite NS to speak. Not that they blamed or used Pakistan’s word in negative way. Now they should have invited him for sure and i read in express tribune that Saudis have now formally acknowledged it as a mistake.
Those who were invited where either those who have very high stakes like Egypt or have better economies.
But thats what happens when you are not self-dependent, not a thrilling economy etc. So all Pak needs is to read whats written on the wall. World is moving on very rapidly. They are not going to remember Pakistan’s sacrifices anymore. The only way out is to become economic giant and a self-reliant nation. It takes time but thats the only way.
You are not correct , This was formal for all countries not for biggest Muslim power and only Muslim nuke power .
Nothing more than a formal statement .
ترجمان دفتر خارجہ نفیس زکریا کا کہنا ہے کہ سعودی فرمانروا شاہ سلمان نے وزیر اعظم نواز شریف سمیت تمام 30 اسلامک ممالک کے سربراہان سے امریکا۔ عرب اسلامی کانفرنس کے دوران تقریر کے موقع نہ دینے پر کانفرنس میں تقریرکا موقع نہ دینےپر شاہ سلمان کی وزیراعظم سے معذرت - Pakistan - Dawn News Urdu معذرت کرلی۔
When ruler was involved in corruption and Panama Leaks, bhi kaisi izzat aor kaisi zillat. If PM or head of any civilized country involved in such corruption, woh sharam ke mare chillu bhar paani main ja kar dhoob marta hay. Jis PM ki apni koi izzat nahin why do you expect that Trump or Kings of KSA will give him? Had he some atom weight of conscious, self esteem and self respect, he should have resigned a long time ago. A Quad-e-Azam tera ehsan hay ehsan. “Gar yeh ehsan jo na kartay to ehasan hota”
And people in this forum still defending him that there is no proof…
never really understand what do we mean when we say that world shd recognize our sacrifices in the war on terrorism? why dont we realize that the rest of the world laughs at our claim.
yes, we lost 70K lives but this is because of our own follies, our own strategic fallacies, and our own stupid decisions for decades
No sir, we did not lose 70K lives fighting the war on terrorism as part of international community and as part of international terrorism agenda.
if that was the case, pak army would not be hiding osama bin laden for 7 years.
if that was the case, all afghan taliban would not be hiding in Quetta safely.
if that was the case, taliban heads Mullah Omar and Mllah Mansour would not have died on pak land with Pakistani passports
that is why no one believes us when we say that we lost 70K lives fighting war on terrorism. we lost these lives as part of our internal issues. we nurtured these snakes for years so that they can go and fight in kashmir. we then turned against them after 911 and they started to attack us and we had no choice but to fight against them. it is Pak internal war due to our stupid decisions, and no one has sympathy for a fool!
Pakistani nation is not willing to grace itself, why would rest of the world shd grace it
For years, i believed that our masses are faultless and all of our problems are due to our corrupt establishment and corrupt politicians…until 3 incidences happened and it told me that masses of this ill-fated nation are equally corrupt and we have many more darker years ahead
educated lawyers who were supposed to follow law, showered Mumtaz Qadri with roses and kissed on his cheeks. Allah o Akbar. one such lawyer i think is part of lahore hight court
a big proportion of Pakistani masses cursing & abusing Malala calling her fake and western agent when rest of the world was praising Mallala to no end…pathetic. world was trying to grace us but we were abusing our own daughter. lakh dee lanat Paksitanio
majority of masses including educated one disowning every incidence. believing there was NO OBL in Abbottabad, there was no 9/11, there was no Mumbai incidence, there’s no sectarian violence EVER among Muslims ? when you love in a denial bubble, there is no hope
They laugh on this drama because performing this drama on world stage is paid for in billions of dollars. Army needs money to survive by hook or by crook. Once Zia-ul-Haq also performed this drama by playing amir-ul-moinin and breeding jehadis in the eighties. He received billions of dollars plunging the future of this unfortunate country into a pitch darkness.
This self-denial have earned us what we have got today!
We went into this mode because we in Pakistan have officially labeled politicians as traitors and men in uniform as patriots.
We have further concluded that any party gets in power because They want it and is thrown out because again They want it to be like this.
We feel proud in any anchor who insults elected PM/President, mind it, these insults are totally based on heresay and none have got any other issue or subject..
Be it Zardari or NS and i must say both have done great work to get Pakistan out of mess since 2008, they must be insulted, they must be riduculed from 6-11 pm 7 days a week…there good work must not be highlighted but even a hint of bad thing should be story of week till new story comes in…
If we do not respect our govt…how come others would be doing it?
Are you suggesting Zardari is any better? He is the most corrupt of all politicians…ever. I don’t support PML-N but they have achieved far more than your precious Zardari has. You have no room to talk when you support such people. PPPP & PML-N are a bunch of tossers and the people vote them in consistently. Well you reap what you sow.
this is also an important aspect. our masses including educated ones preach for a value-based life but practically speaking they, for the most part, hate institutions… hate the fundamental sense of democracy, want an easy way out for everything, will start yelling army army army after every incidence, want to kick out every govt. Just wait if PTI comes into power, in 6 months we will be calling it the most corrupt govt as well and will be requesting army to kick it out. there is no room for army govt in 21st century and it will disgrace the nation further. no matter how bad our system is or our politicians are , we will need to work with the system to get through this mess.
**Well actually all Gulf countries and USA have a bone to pick with Pakistan and it’s new Port being built with the Help of China, all of them are actually Green with envy, plus they can see shipping traffic being diverted to Gawadar which was being handled by their Gulf Ports.
and the “Trump Tour” was more of a symbolic visit to the centers of three of the Worlds prominent Monotheistic religions! plus also to create 1 million Jobs for Americans! so a Pakistani Leader got ignored so what?**
Not at all. My explicit views against Zardari are obvious. I wish Pakistan regained its dignity by electing honest leadership who when catch even real brother involving in corruption or criminal act, should go to jail.
isn’t pakistan insulted everywhere and from everyone these days? even afghanistan threatens pakistan all the time. Too bad our beghairat leaders (politicians and military) are too quiet over this all the time, all they do is lodge protest via FO.
Jub aap har paroosi ko tang karo ge to aap ka yehi hona tha one day. Rather than focusing on building our own country , we focused foreign issues. Ab bhugto…
The whole thing was show boating by Trump and House of Saud. Pak should realize arabs have much to lose by CPEC success. UAE being the primary loser. Why not align with Iran instead? History will show that House of Saud is a farce spreading Wahhabism evil ideology to keep Iran at bay and to use them as boogeyman to stay in power. Can’t wait for Saudi oil to run dry. Pak should learn to pick sides wisely. Iran Saudi conflict is great news for US defense industry.
Iran is also run by goons. However there is a seismic change on cards in 20 years. With Iran going more liberal/main stream. No good can come with Pak picking Sides with a Saudi led coalition. Stay neutral or lean with Iran. Pak China and Iran to counter Arab cult. We need peace on western border with Iran and Afghanistan.
If Iran is a goon, then Pakistan should mind its own business.
As for the seismic change coming in the next 20 years, please do remember that for every liberal, there are 5 basiji in the iranian hinterland so lets not get our hopes up for a secular moderate iran. Mullahs have done a number on that country.
Sovereign Pakistan hone me liyee zaroori hey Keh aap neighbours ki sovereignty ko respect nah dain. U tried to have pro Pakistan govt. In Afghan but wat is the result. If u respect sovereignty of others u will get the same in return.
All fine and dandy in theory but Pakistan is not showing any self-respect. Iran is creating havoc across middle east that pakistan can’t even imagine of doing so would you say the same for them?