Pakistan vs West Indies - March 13 Sabina Park, Jamaica

the_game · March 12, 2007, 11:02pm

Re: Pakistan vs West Indies - March 13 Sabina Park, Jamaica

I retract my statement. Please throw some unday on this bhaarti right now :o .

acrobi123 · March 12, 2007, 11:03pm

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^^ some1 you are assuming that it will be a low scoring game.

Some1 · March 12, 2007, 11:06pm

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Yes…read this piece at Cricinfo regarding Andy Roberts’ comments about the pitch.
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/284925.html

Roberts actually hints that some pitches in this World Cup could be like the ones in the ICC trophy (where teams often got out for below 200 scores).

the_game · March 12, 2007, 11:13pm

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Very good. I hate patta wickets. Bowlers ko bhi daal roti chalani hai ghar ki, come on.

vineshvk · March 12, 2007, 11:20pm

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If the pitches are like the practice match pitch between India and WI, then surely bowlers will get their daal and roti but batsmen may mostly get undays.:D

acrobi123 · March 12, 2007, 11:26pm

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If the pitches are glued up like they were in ICC CT then sure it will be a low scoring game, however if its a typical WI pitch freshly prepared then it will be an exciting opening game.

LahoriMunda · March 12, 2007, 11:27pm

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How many flags do you guys need ? First you wanted an Indian flag just cause their was a Pakistani one and you wanted to play in level ground, very understandable. Now you want a West Indian flag as well. Kal ko kaho gay kay hindi main namskar ki smilie bhi do :o

Some1 · March 12, 2007, 11:33pm

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Not a bad idea if you ask me.

btw, as regards the pitch - if you think about it there were not many high-scoring Warm Up games...in fact I believe there was only one 300(or +) score.
May be this is an indicator of things to come.

LahoriMunda · March 12, 2007, 11:33pm

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The "glued pitches" wont be used for World cup games, I'm pretty sure about that. I dont know what the big deal is, just cause some past greats predicted that this West Indies team will do great doesnt mean squat. It would be an upset if Pakistan cant brush West Indies aside tomorrow. I am not saying it would be the easiest game we'll have in the world cup but if we are to seriously consider challenging in the next round then this match should be won easily. West Indies is an easier opposition compared to some other test playing nations. It would be a much tougher task against teams like Srilanka, India, Australia, South Africa. So Pakistan needs to go all out tommorow and beat the Windies with ease so as to show the class that is still there in the team despite missing two premier bowlers and the premier all rounder. If we cant handle Windies tomorrow their is no point looking forward to the next round where practically everytime would be tougher then Windies.

ehsan · March 12, 2007, 11:35pm

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^ LM read on cricinfo, Zim are gunning for Pakistan. :(

legbreakgoogly · March 12, 2007, 11:46pm

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LahoriMunda · March 13, 2007, 1:22am

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Cricinfo pe to koi kuch bhi bool dey woh chaap detay hain Smith says Saffies are not chokers

Pakistan favourites on recent form

After months of hype and a dazzling opening ceremony, we’re finally ready for the action to begin on the pitch. Cricinfo looks at the stat highlights ahead of the curtain-raiser between West Indies and Pakistan in Kingston, Jamaica.

The World Cup kicks off in Sabina Park, which used to be a West Indian stronghold. No longer - West Indies won 11 of their first 12 matches there but since 2003 have lost five of their last six.

Out of the 109 ODIs played between the two teams, West Indies have won 63, Pakistan 44 and two have been tied. The win-loss record for the ten most recent matches, however, reads 8-2 in Pakistan’s favour. West Indies toured Pakistan immediately after their impressive showing in the 2006 Champions Trophy and were soundly beaten 3-1 in the ODI series.

Pakistan have only played 19 ODIs in the West Indies, of which they’ve lost 11 and tied one. Of their seven victories, three were in a comprehensive series win on their tour of the Caribbean in 2005. In World Cups, the head-to-head record is 5-2 in West Indies’ favour but the two teams haven’t played each other since 1999 when Pakistan won by 27 runs.

West Indies had a successful 2006 during which they beat India 4-1 at home and reached the finals of the Champions Trophy. Their win-loss record for the year is 18-14 but you must remember that six of those victories came against Zimbabwe. They toured India in January 2007 and were beaten 3-1.

Pakistan also had an unsatisfactory 2006, winning 11 and losing 10 games. Their only series wins came in Sri Lanka and against West Indies at home. They ended the year with several injuries during a 3-1 hammering in South Africa.

Going on past form, Pakistan’s lynchpin in the West Indies will be their captain Inzamam-ul-Haq. He’s played 14 matches in the Caribbean and scored 590 runs including seven half-centuries and averages a shade under 54. He’ll have to raise his current form to live up to that - in 2006 Inzamam scored only 524 runs in 24 matches at an average of just under 31.

None of the other Pakistan batsmen has fared exceptionally well in the West Indies. Mohammad Yousuf and Younis Khan in particular will have to improve their West Indian records for Pakistan to mount a serious challenge. Yousuf and Younis have scored only 190 runs each from 10 and nine matches respectively. Shahid Afridi, a sure-shot matchwinner on his day, has had a horrific loss of form. He scored just 217 runs in 18 innings since 2006. His quick legbreaks, however, have been effective and he’s taken 19 wickets at an economy-rate of 4.45.

Pakistan’s most successful bowler in the West Indies had to pull out of the World Cup because of injury. Abdul Razzaq has taken 18 wickets in ten matches at an average of just under 20. Rana Naved-ul-Hasan has taken 31 wickets in his last 25 games since 2006 and while his strike-rate of 32 is impeccable, it’s his economy of over six an over that will worry Pakistan.

West Indies’ opening pair of Chris Gayle and Shivnarine Chanderpaul have got them off to excellent starts in recent times. While everyone expects Gayle to win matches with his flamboyant hitting, Chanderpaul’s recent form - 1178 runs in his last 30 innings at an average of over 47 - has slipped under the scanner. West Indies will look to him to anchor the innings while the others provide the acceleration.

Jerome Taylor will hold the key to West Indies’ new-ball attack. He has developed significantly over the last year and, in 27 matches since 2006, has taken 41 wickets at an average of 27.

Rana Naved has generally been prohibitively expensive with the new ball in recent games, but against West Indies it’ll make sense to have him bowl at the start. Rana Naved has dismissed Gayle six times, conceding 104 runs from 121 balls, for an average of 17.33 per dismissal. Coincidentally, Rana Naved has exactly the same bowling average against Lara too (52 runs in 46 balls, with three dismissals). Overall, he has enjoyed bowling against West Indies much more than against any opposition - he averages 16.24 runs per wicket (as against his career average of 27.16), and concedes 4.31 per over (career economy rate 5.53).

Thanks largely to Naved’s destructive spells at the start, Gayle only averages 27.04 against Pakistan, well below his career ODI average of 38.74.

SunnyBoy · March 13, 2007, 1:41am

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wish them gud luck

razeeb · March 13, 2007, 1:54am

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I love Pigs

Cricinfo pe to koi kuch bhi bool dey woh chaap detay hain Smith says Saffies are not chokers

Pakistan favourites on recent form

After months of hype and a dazzling opening ceremony, we’re finally ready for the action to begin on the pitch. Cricinfo looks at the stat highlights ahead of the curtain-raiser between West Indies and Pakistan in Kingston, Jamaica.

The World Cup kicks off in Sabina Park, which used to be a West Indian stronghold. No longer - West Indies won 11 of their first 12 matches there but since 2003 have lost five of their last six.

Out of the 109 ODIs played between the two teams, West Indies have won 63, Pakistan 44 and two have been tied. The win-loss record for the ten most recent matches, however, reads 8-2 in Pakistan’s favour. West Indies toured Pakistan immediately after their impressive showing in the 2006 Champions Trophy and were soundly beaten 3-1 in the ODI series.

Pakistan have only played 19 ODIs in the West Indies, of which they’ve lost 11 and tied one. Of their seven victories, three were in a comprehensive series win on their tour of the Caribbean in 2005. In World Cups, the head-to-head record is 5-2 in West Indies’ favour but the two teams haven’t played each other since 1999 when Pakistan won by 27 runs.

West Indies had a successful 2006 during which they beat India 4-1 at home and reached the finals of the Champions Trophy. Their win-loss record for the year is 18-14 but you must remember that six of those victories came against Zimbabwe. They toured India in January 2007 and were beaten 3-1.

Pakistan also had an unsatisfactory 2006, winning 11 and losing 10 games. Their only series wins came in Sri Lanka and against West Indies at home. They ended the year with several injuries during a 3-1 hammering in South Africa.

Going on past form, Pakistan’s lynchpin in the West Indies will be their captain Inzamam-ul-Haq. He’s played 14 matches in the Caribbean and scored 590 runs including seven half-centuries and averages a shade under 54. He’ll have to raise his current form to live up to that - in 2006 Inzamam scored only 524 runs in 24 matches at an average of just under 31.

None of the other Pakistan batsmen has fared exceptionally well in the West Indies. Mohammad Yousuf and Younis Khan in particular will have to improve their West Indian records for Pakistan to mount a serious challenge. Yousuf and Younis have scored only 190 runs each from 10 and nine matches respectively. Shahid Afridi, a sure-shot matchwinner on his day, has had a horrific loss of form. He scored just 217 runs in 18 innings since 2006. His quick legbreaks, however, have been effective and he’s taken 19 wickets at an economy-rate of 4.45.

Pakistan’s most successful bowler in the West Indies had to pull out of the World Cup because of injury. Abdul Razzaq has taken 18 wickets in ten matches at an average of just under 20. Rana Naved-ul-Hasan has taken 31 wickets in his last 25 games since 2006 and while his strike-rate of 32 is impeccable, it’s his economy of over six an over that will worry Pakistan.

West Indies’ opening pair of Chris Gayle and Shivnarine Chanderpaul have got them off to excellent starts in recent times. While everyone expects Gayle to win matches with his flamboyant hitting, Chanderpaul’s recent form - 1178 runs in his last 30 innings at an average of over 47 - has slipped under the scanner. West Indies will look to him to anchor the innings while the others provide the acceleration.

Jerome Taylor will hold the key to West Indies’ new-ball attack. He has developed significantly over the last year and, in 27 matches since 2006, has taken 41 wickets at an average of 27.

** Rana Naved has generally been prohibitively expensive with the new ball in recent games, but against West Indies it’ll make sense to have him bowl at the start. Rana Naved has dismissed Gayle six times, conceding 104 runs from 121 balls, for an average of 17.33 per dismissal. Coincidentally, Rana Naved has exactly the same bowling average against Lara too (52 runs in 46 balls, with three dismissals). Overall, he has enjoyed bowling against West Indies much more than against any opposition - he averages 16.24 runs per wicket (as against his career average of 27.16), and concedes 4.31 per over (career economy rate 5.53). **

** Thanks largely to Naved’s destructive spells at the start,** Gayle only averages 27.04 against Pakistan, well below his career ODI average of 38.74.

so Rana will be the man tomorrow

smooth_guy · March 13, 2007, 2:21am

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I am surprised, ppl are not tired of FAVOURITE bakwaas yet.

ITS WIDE OPEN. That what this WC is.

truelies · March 13, 2007, 2:33am

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Relax Chum! You better mind your language :) there is no point triggering a masla here... hope u understand!

smooth_guy · March 13, 2007, 2:51am

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I am not talking of anyone here. I am pointing to Cricinfo article.

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/284970.html

I don’t mess with fellow KK guppies, unless someone attacks on Akhtar’s dignity

Fayz · March 13, 2007, 3:17am

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Rameez Raja did a good analysis on tomorrow's game on Geo. According to Rameez, Yousaf should come one down, Inzi 2 down and Younis 3 down. Yousaf being the in-form batsman should spend as much time on the wicket as possible and Inzi with his experience should share the overs with him.

BRING IT ON!!!

Some1 · March 13, 2007, 4:35am

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May the better team (West Indies) win.

smooth_guy · March 13, 2007, 4:40am

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Fayz, this could be a double edge sword as well. If Yousuf struggled to set on one down, we will loose our best batsman for this expirment right in the World Cup.

I think Shoaib Malik or Younis are best for No. 3 position. May be Younis more suites there as he has played on this position for quiet sometime. Also, Malik has proved himself to be a quality finisher. So either Inzi or Malik needs to be there till last to finish the job.