and i still think South African bowling attack is mediocre, its our batsmen who let them on top, made one mediocre bowler's career (Andre Nel). And thier bowling attack is one dimensional. Pakistan shuld have been able to comprehend with em but alas Hafeez made a hero of pollock by blocking 30-odd delievers and scoring virtually nothing.
See, the cat’s already peeping out
A dissappointing loss but all credits go out to South Africa today, unlike the last game, their bowlers outclassed our batsmen completely.
And for once M Hafeez didn't get out @ his own fault, it was a great inswinger from Nel, (he can actually bowl rather then his trash talking) But still Hafeez has to go.
After losing Youhana, we had let the match go, but the good thing is that Razzaq is slowly getting back to his old form, there was some resistence from the lower order, and I have been very impressed by Sami's batting in the last 2 matches, he has a solid defense and a very good potential to be an allrounder.
And Inzi playing was more of a huge burden rather then a advantage, he slowed down Younis Khan, and I don't blame Younis Khan at all for his run out.
If you are not 100%, then you shouldn't play at all.
Our bowling was good, Kaneria was the most impressive, honestly I want to see more of him in the test series rather then Mushtaq Ahmed.
I agree with A Sohail, we should play a single spinner and 3 fast bowlers.
Overall a bad loss, and very emotional good bye to Wasim bhai.
I have become a huge fan of Boetta Dippennar, he is different from other South African players, very well behaved.
It was disappointing to see our team lose after being 2/0 up. But come on they played better then we thought, so let’s give them a bit of credit. We should have wrapped off the series in the 3rd match but messed it up. As for the last two matches, SA thoroughly outplayed us and got the better of us. I am not disheartened, even though I think we should have put up a better show in the last 2 matches.
Our failure was our batting and had we put up 250+ batting first we would have won both the matches in Pindi and with it the series.
Hafeez and Younis need to be rested, Rashid is going anyway. I was disappointed by his performance during this series, mainly because you expect so much of him.
Well on to the Test matches.
This was Inzi’s first defeat as captain.
Overall 6/10 for Pakistan, based on the fact that no one gave them much chance before the series and that they were palying SA, the second best team in the world right now. :k: 
This match was dedicated to Wasim
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Wasim was presented with a trophy at the end of the match.
In hindsight, Wasim should have been presented with his trophy before the game started when the ground was full. Most of the spectators had left by the end.
ehsan, I have to say I was disappointed more in the manner of the defeat than the defeat itself. We had everything in our favour in this game yet didn't even come close.
One consolation is that we'll have Taufeeq back for the test matches, a player with grit, focus and desire, something too many of our batsmen lack at the moment. Yoyo and Inzi are class but aren't fighters, Younis is a let down but if we can unearth another good opener, we'll put up a better show in the tests I'm sure.
thank god i went to sleep as soon as yoyo got out!
In Imran's era, our bowling used to be the key factor, and sometimes we would even defend a low total of 160 to 180 using our bowling. Then in the Salim Malik era, our batting strengthened considerably. I remember when the South Africans came to Pakistan for a tri series tournament, they went home winless then. After that, our batting again never looked solid enough. Even today, scoring less than 250 on the Pindi pitch, batting first proved how our batting is very unreliable.
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^^ come on yaar, just accept the fact that our batting (and by that i mean openers ) are not upto the mark. Dont blame it on supernatural stuff. And you dont have to be a genius to realize what Mr. Tom wants to start.
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u r abslostly rote saby.... this tommy suks... wut is he tryin to say.....why dont u go and ask dumb ganguly and co first...kiwis ahd a big slap in indian face by drawing the test match,... when india was in nz, india was humiliated in every one day match and test match and now kiwis are managed to have a great maatch on ur own soil.....dont u think tommy ganglu is also azhar...... rishwat khor...
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4 runs or 7 wickets...
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i think we take 7 wickets ...i m sure abt it
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i think we take 7 wickets ...i m sure abt it
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lolzzz!:D
Dippenaar takes South Africa to 3-2 series victory](http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2003/OCT/295301_PAKRSA2003-04_12OCT2003.html)
South Africa 193 for 3 in 45.5 overs (Dippenaar 74) beat Pakistan 192 in 49.3 overs (Abdul Razzaq 38, Pollock 3-33) by seven wickets, and won the series 3-2
South Africa completed a remarkable turnaround in this one-day series, winning the fifth and final match at Rawalpindi by seven wickets to come back from 0-2 down to take the series 3-2. Their heroes were Boeta Dippenaar, who anchored the innings with an accomplished 74, and Mark Boucher, the stand-in captain, who had an inspired time in his first ODI in charge. He had to step up to lead in the absence of Graeme Smith, who like Andrew Hall was banned from this match for misdemeanours back in the second game at Lahore.
South Africa looked likely winners from early on, when Andre Nel made two important early breakthroughs. Shaun Pollock finished with the best figures, but Nel and Robin Peterson, the inexperienced slow left-armer, both took two important wickets as well.
The return of Inzamam-ul-Haq after a leg injury did little to help Pakistan, who have underperformed after those two early victories. Batsman after batsman prodded and jabbed … and perished. None of the top-order batsmen was capable of playing the sheet-anchor role that was badly needed.
To add to Pakistan’s woes, Boucher had a plan for every batsman, plus some inspired bowling changes and field-placings. And when South Africa batted, Dippenaar showed the Pakistanis how to go about building an innings, and with help from Herschelle Gibbs and Jacques Kallis he ensured that the victory was completed without much ado.
South Africa took control as early as the second over of the day, when Mohammad Hafeez’s miserable run continued. His middle stump was uprooted by Nel, and when Yousuf Youhana was lbw to Pollock, it was 16 for 2. Pollock, who was economical throughout these five matches, and Nel – whose intensity was contagious – never let up on the discipline and were pivotal in the context of the series triumph.
Younis Khan joined Yasir Hameed, and though both tried in vain to unsettle the bowlers by standing outside their crease with a middle-stump guard, the scoreboard ticked over only slowly. Then Boucher pulled the first rabbit out of his cap. In the 10th over, bowled by Nel, Boucher moved Kallis from second slip to short midwicket. The next ball was well pitched up and homing in on leg stump, and Hameed obligingly chipped it straight to Kallis (35 for 3).
Inzamam was struggling with his leg injury, and his notoriously suspect running was further hindered. Boucher encouraged his team to shy at Inzamam’s end whenever they could, and it paid off when Jacques Rudolph threw down the stumps with a direct hit from mid-on. And finally, when Younis and Shoaib Malik were playing the seamers comfortably, Boucher quickly brought on Peterson. He duly obliged with two quick wickets, with generous assistance from the batsmen. Malik holed out to Nel, while Younis played back to one that kept very low.
With Rashid Latif nudging intelligently in partnership with Abdul Razzaq, who played some lavish drives on both sides of the wicket in his 38, a spot of late-order carnage seemed on the cards. But Boucher didn’t let things drift and brought back Makhaya Ntini, who responded by persuading Razzaq to edge a catch behind (152 for 7). Latif, who nurdled 25, received some useful support from the tail and managed to lift the total from meagre to remotely defendable.
If Pakistan were to win they needed early wickets, and Shoaib Akhtar nearly obliged during a fiery opening spell. But Dippenaar and Herschelle Gibbs managed to keep him out, and also kept the score ticking over at four an over. Akhtar’s first over nearly did the trick: first a huge appeal for leg-before against Dippenaar was turned down, then he completely missed a yorker-length ball that fizzed past the off stump. Dippenaar played and missed a couple of times in Akhtar’s next over, but with Mohammad Sami getting his length all wrong, he grew in confidence and slowly unveiled some neat cuts and pulls.
Dippenaar was ably supported, first by Gibbs and then by Kallis. They eased the pressure by collecting the odd boundary to raise the rate. Danish Kaneria, the legspinner, bowled an impressive spell in which he turned the ball appreciably, and his awkward bounce unsettling the batsmen. He was rewarded with the wicket of Gibbs, who danced down the track, missed, and was stumped by a distance (75 for 1). But then Kallis and Dippenaar added 93 at a steady rate, and apart from one stray yorker that nearly castled Kallis, and a wayward chip that sailed between two fielders, both were very assured and picked off the singles easily.
Sami came back in the 39th over, with 25 needed, and caused a minor ripple. He bowled Kallis with one that kept low, and finally trapped Dippenaar leg-before. His matchwinning 74 occupied 125 balls, and contained five fours. But Rudolph and Neil McKenzie survived some edgy moments to guide South Africa to a 3-2 series win with 25 balls to spare - a final outcome that seemed almost impossible after those two defeats in Lahore at the start of the series.
Good overall Performence by Pakistan. Two things have come out of this series which must be fixed. Mohammad Hafeez must go, for god sakes bring back Afridi, im sure he would have gave us a good opening parternship if he had played 10 ODI’s in a row with 5 of them being against BD. Getting out in the second over, or scoring 1 run in 20 balls and then getting out puts the team under pressure, and our batsment are known not to play well under pressure.
Also, Younis Khan is another area of problem. The guy has always let the side down when we need him. He is a good confident player but plays rash strokes to get out which leaves the team in a big mess. As an experienced middle order batsmen, much more is required of him.
The rest of the team looks good…and with the re-emergence of Razzaq as an all-rounder, everything else looks to be ok. Lets hope Pakistan can put up a good fight in the Test matches as well :k:
*WoW, we lost another one 
Pathatic bating performance by pakistan :nahnah:
What the hell, why PCB didn’t change the team, I though they will bring Imran Farhat 
2guns: Aamir Sohail , Our local terrorist should take care of Aamir Sohail 
The problem is simply and solution of the problem is simple, I don’t know why PCB can’t understand that.
PCB should have made few changes in the team, replacing Hafeez with Imran Farhat and bring Misbah for INzi.
I told you guys that we must have solid opener otherwise we will continue to struggle. Solid Opener will shape the whole course of the inning and remove pressure from middle Order. We are keep making the same mistake, Imran Farhat, Imran Nazir, Saeed Bin Nazir are the best candidate for opening slot but PCB has been ignoring the true talent in Pakistan. They finally gave Danish Keneria change but it was little too late, we already lost the ODI series.
I realize that some of the players are not performing up to the standard, I hope PCB looks and evaluate individual performance and based their selection decisions on that. We have talented Players like Misbah & Saeed Bin Nazir, Imran Farhat, Salman Butt and many more are waiting for their turn.
Is Tufeeq Umer coming back for 1st Test match against SA?
I thought he went through some kind of surgery and wouldn’t be available until November. I hope he corrected technical flaws in this batting, otherwise it will be long Series for Pakistan.*
razzaq is definietely back in form... his partnership with malik was shaping up to get us a decent total but malik played a bad shot although there was unexpected bounce on that ball... younis khan let down the whole side, it was entirely his fault for getting inzi run out and basically we lost the match after that (if there was any hope of winning before that point)....youhanna looked uncomfortable i think he wasnt 100%.... I was appalled to see hafeez opening once again and it wouldnt even surprise me if they stick with him for the next series simply because the selection committe is absolutely idiotic...danish bowled extremely well... shoaib's opening spell was also very dangerous and he was a little unlucky...looks like age is catching up with rashid...
Yaa Akhii:nono4: Haadhaa Kullun Haraam:grumpy:.
What are the ICC standings
1 Australia 135
2 South Africa 118
3 England 107
4 Pakistan 107 _ Very poor performance in last 3 ODI's
5 West Indies 106
6 New Zealand 106
7 Sri Lanka 105
8 India 104
9 Zimbabwe 63
10 Kenya 28
11 Bangladesh 0
Up Comming tours
October 2003:
India host New Zealand
Pakistan host South Africa
Zimbabwe host West Indies
Bangladesh host England
November 2003:
Australia host Zimbabwe
Sri Lanka host England
December 2003:
Australia host India
New Zealand host Pakistan -
South Africa host West Indies - i'll waiting for this one.
And also in November, Pakistan host New Zealand for 5 One Day matches.
Pending on the security situation.