Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

**South Africa v Pakistan
*****- 2nd ODI -

***Wed 7, 2007 day/night game

Kingsmead, Durban

GMT: 12:30pm
EST: 07:30am

Weather:

After the drubbing/trashing of Pakistan in the first ODI, I thought I should not open the dhaga or thread :rolleyes: per why not, My expectation are the same, and infact much more after that terrible loss. I think Pakistan will make an outstanding comeback.
Interesting U-turn by PCB by selecting Azhar Mehmood after his fantastic domestic performance, lets hope Woolmer value him, the way he regards Razzaq and Malik(no offense but the latter to me is a matter of choice, not quality). Another incident which will have an impact on Pakistan team is of S. Afridi lashing out on a sports fan after getting out, these out of the blue, boiling blood should be curtained at any cost by PCB and they should send a strong signal with Afridi’s punishment.

Pakistani bowlers (since coach Woolmer) have bowled less and less yorkers, Yes their L&L has got a bit better but as far as yorkers are concerned, In my opinion either Woolmer doesn’t encourage or bowlers aren’t applying it properly and they are not hold accountable by the think tank (coach, asst. coach…all those guys who give stats to coach). Pakistan team have to work on sending their best pair at the top of the order and to me Nazir and Hameed are the best out there.

As for Saffies, well they are high, actually very high on confidence, in their own backyard its one of the difficult side to beat. Lets see if they can continue in the same fashion.

So the question remains, with which player are you going to swap Azhar?

Goodluck to Pakistan they need it badly.

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

Pehla thread ka hashar yaad nahi hai acrobi??

I think mods should lock this thread and let someone else open this thread :p

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

:hoonh: Khabardar ^^ mods should not do that :snooty: Haan mujhe yaad hai achi tarha kiya huwa tha but you wait and see abhi kiya ho ga in 2nd game :snooty:

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

However, assuming Azhar is not jet-leg and Afridi is available for the second match, we should be courageous enough to give Akmal a rest. Playing Zulqi wont be a long term solution with WC in mind but it will give Akmal some much needed time fr soul searching. I would also drop either Malik or Hafeez. Hafeez has had starts but threw them away EVERY time in this tour so its time Nazir is given a recall.

I hope they play the following team.

Imran Nazir
Hafeez / Malik
Younis
Yousuf
Inzimam
Razzaq
Afridi
Azhar
Zulqi
Rana
Asif

Razzaq and Malik must be told to bowl ten good overs between them.

Hoping for an improved performance and an unlikely victory :jhanda:

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

I disagree here. Naveed has been our best bowler in death overs in recent years. Shoaib does not need to prove that he cannot do that. Gul also learnt to do that. Only Asif remains who need to master this art.

aur agar iss match mai bhi koi hanky panky huee tu you will be banned from opening threads.. likh ker rekh lo kaheen..

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

Kallis is the best all-rounder on ICC rankings, he is at his best and he is winning matches for SA.

Azhar is the best all-rounder on our domestic scene, and he can do the same for Pak. He is at his best and he can win matches for Pak as well, if Kallis is winning for SA. (So 88-runs and 3-wickets for him, on paper at least) :)

Azhar <--> Younis/Razzaq/Sami/Rana/Asif/Malik/......
But Younis can hit centuries too and Razzaq is an all-rounder and Sami is a good player,........and we need Azhar as well.

I do think if Pak enter the ground to win, they can win it without Azhar as well but Azhar must be playing in a couple of games if he is sent there and is in good form.

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

I agree with the fact that Naveed is doing the best but I was speaking about yorkers, and I think he has started bowling less, low on confidence.

hanky phanky huwa to kiya, mein khud hi hibernation mein chala jaoon ga, magar yeh mera kassoor thori hai Men in green ko bolo kay play well, nahi play outstanding game :p

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

itnee KUT lagnee hai na itnee KUT lagnee hai k bus :)

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

^^ saab ki too-too-mein-mein baand ho jaye gi after Pakistan win the 2nd ODI :snooty:

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

i am not wasting my time on this one. So sad to see that we still dont know our 15 players for the world cup. They are really messed up here. its of no sense to play 4 all rounders. All good teams play with at most 2.
ufff.. bohat gussa a raha hey on PCB...

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

I would refine it by:
Imran Nazir
Malik
Younis
Yousuf
Inzimam
Razzaq
Afridi
Azhar or Sami if Azhar is not ready. He might not get there in time. He was waiting for a visa.
Zulqi
Rana
Asif

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

^^ considering the above scenario(s) I would go with, if playing all the 3 all-rounders, now 4 is required then;

  1. Malik (he got some runs and we know he can bowl a bit)
  2. Hameed (he was in decent form in Test and can carry that into ODI’s)
  3. Younis
  4. Yousef
  5. Inzimam
  6. Razzaq
  7. Azhar (if he is there in time, else: Sami)
  8. Rehman
    9)Zulqy
    10)Rana
  9. Asif

Moreover I feel you need Rehman in the team instead of any other all-rounder, even if he goes for 60+ runs, let him play all of the matches left.

why do I have a feeling that Sami and Akmal will return to haunt me and KK kay saray guppies mujhe nani si jaan ko blame daye gaye. :rolleyes:

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

Well … Africa won da Toss .. elected to Bat first … 320 runs / 50 overs

Pakistan : they are still decided for Batting Order :smokin2:

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

^Hmhmmmm.... In that case,
Sami and Taya Arshad will open the innings :p

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

I pray it is more like 220 in 50 overs with Azhar, Boota Rana, tearing SA apart with 4 each and afridi and other guy getting 2 b/w them.

Then we come in and demolish the total with 10 overs to spare…
Afridi hitting 100 off 40 balls or somfing..

them my alarm clock wakes me up…
:clown:

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

Considering what happened in the first ODI Acrobi should never ever be allowed to open a thread involving Pakistan. :(

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

Koi say bhi 11 khila loh, anjam kee toh sub koh khabar hai.

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

:naraz: I trust my team even if they lose :teary1:

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

Oye :naraz::hoonh: aap say yeh umeed nahi thi, bhul gaye meri pheli (not this series) ki thread :snooty: kitni kharab hai tum logo ki yaad-dash.:teary1::bummer:

Re: Pakistan vs South Africa 2nd ODI, Feb 07 2007

Okay here is a wierd thought, we all are anticipating few chops and changes in the team, what if the coach and captain play the same 11 :eek: considering all are fit, I think Razzay is unfit.