Pakistan vs South Africa 1st Test Match 2013

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lo kar lo baat..captain jee kee kaya baat hai!

i am just a “realistic fan” of Pak cricket…i mean 2 weeks ago we did lose to ZIM because the track was a bit seaming…that is a fact..and yes when i look back 10 years, i don’t see one single batsman who is even 30% of yoyo, younis or inzi…nothing… other than mohamd aamir and ajmal, bowling has been mediocre too. so how can I be super optimistic abt our bench? we need to figure out how to improve this situation.

but in this particular post, i was actually showing mirror to the so-called big guns that they are also not that good in alien conditions, so why blame us only…and i did that by showing concrete examples. i was actually favoring Pak!

anyway aap happy rahay, hamara kiya hai..hum to malang log hain!

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Allah reham kre aisi baatein nhe krtay is age mein :@:

Yes when we play against them we play 3 matches and when they play we play 2 matches.......And did you read the news about the conflicts between SA board and Indian board that india doesnt want to play 3 matches in SA and only two matches lol......Even though it was decided earlier that it will be three test match series........Its all about BCCI ruling ICC thats it and thats why India is number 2 in the ranking even though they suck at test cricket right now..........

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I have raised the exact point on pakpassion. **England regularly play 7 tests at home during the Summer **which is a huge advantage to them in terms of the rankings!

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Most Test wins as Pakistan captain:

Imran 14
Miandad 14
Wasim 12
Misbah 11
Inzamam 11
Waqar 10

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We can’t get anyone’s “replacement” all the time considering most of these players were “hand-picked” for their talent and did not necessarily make it to top based on performance in domestic or under-19. Our players selection has problems that’s why domestic performers were not picked as much in past. Things are improving I believe so the selection is based on part domestic performance, part captain’s friendships/relationships in domestic players, selectors favorites, “recommendations” (aka sifarshis).

Other reason for not having a good pool of bench is that we don’t get exposure to international cricket as much, no international teams coming to Pakistan which allows domestic players’ top performers to play against quality players in side matches. But still :alhamd: we do have bench players who can step up.

As far as your other point is considered about not every team performing every where that has always been the case. Only in case of a pure dominant eras (WI, Aus) we had a team who will perform anywhere other than that every team had good region of performance and not-so-good/bad region of performance (sub-continent vs Eng/Aus/SA/NZ etc). Currently there is no completely dominating team but one will emerge sooner or later.

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It is up to the respective boards to agree on x no. of tests, ODIs and T20Is in a series. ICC does not get involved in this.

Apparently RSA agreed to play 3 tests but on the condition that number of ODIs be reduced from 5 to 3. PCB was not too keen on that as ODIs generate more revenue than tests.

Less ODIs = Less money in PCB coffers = and by extension less money in Sethi's pockets (just kidding but Sethi is a known tax evader!). imo PCB could have scrapped the two T20Is and played 3 tests instead

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ICC isn't entirely blameless. Apparently the minimum number of Tests in a bilateral series according to the ICC is 2!

Couldn't ICC change that?

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Hope he didn’t speak too soon..

Kamran Abbasi: The sweet taste of M&M’s success

Pakistan’s opening batsmen do not score runs in Test cricket. Score runs at the same time? Forget it. For a nation fed on the indigestible drivel of Mohammad Hafeez and Imran Farhat, the century partnership betweenKhurram Manzoor and Shan Masood was a gourmet treat. Pakistan never looked back. A fright in the final session didn’t deflect from their unexpected superiority in Abu Dhabi.

Pakistan’s last outing was a defeat to Zimbabwe. Pakistan cricket’s appeal is built on such mood swings. Misbah-ul-Haq prefers a steadier, incremental improvement in his country’s results. He has little chance of that. The background tomfoolery of their board makes a captain’s task all but impossible. Only this week, the prime minister of Pakistan, a former first-class cricketer of ill repute, anointed himself patron of the national cricket board. The governing body of the cricket board was hastily dissolved and replaced with an ad-hoc committee. This is an exercise in semantics since whether ad-hoc or constitutional, whichever body runs Pakistan cricket tends to build more ruins.

In defiance of these developments, Misbah’s team produced their best first-innings batting display in recent memory. Pakistan’s bowlers, we know, are ever competitive. It is the batsmen who destroy our faith in fellow man. Here, Saeed Ajmal and Co enjoyed the rare luxury of a large total to exploit. They indulged themselves, almost sealing an innings victory. Questions about South Africa’s ability to succeed in Asian conditions quickly resurfaced. Any team with ambitions to rule the world must vanquish challengers on all continents.

That might prove difficult as Pakistan have turned the Middle East into an impenetrable citadel. But the true test of champions is how they respond to defeat. The great West Indian and Australian teams summoned an instant reaction, bloodied your nose at the next bout. England failed to react when they toured the Emirates in 2011 and were whitewashed. South Africa now face a similar fate, especially with the unfamiliar challenge of Pakistan’s batsmen in confident mood.

Younis Khan and Misbah may offer peace of mind in the middle order. Asad Shafiq may be an able sidekick. But the key to this match was the difference made by a proper top-order performance. Pakistan’s bowlers were no better or worse than they have been, simply as excellent as ever. South Africa’s batsmen were no less responsible than usual. It was Manzoor and Masood who shifted the balance. They set Pakistan on course for victory, allowing their middle order to play a more natural game instead of the wars of attrition many supporters have cringed over.

With Nasir Jamshed and Ahmed Shehzad in the wings, eager for the limelight, Pakistan have some openers to work with. Which of these players end up being part of a long-term opening partnership is unknown but it would be nutty to prefer another option to M&M, or to recall the Professor after his “rest”. Pakistan cricket finds players with international ability but is generally unable to develop them. A test of the new ad-hoc system will be how successfully it nurtures this crop of promising opening batsmen.

A more immediate test will be what Pakistan do about the No. 3 spot, where Azhar Ali is struggling with technique and form. It seems premature to drop him for the final Test of a two-match series. A better option is to support him now and review the position at the end of the contest.
These are important considerations for Pakistan’s new cricket committee. A productive top order is fundamental to challenging consistently, and Pakistan have been weak in this area for a decade. For the committee’s attention, it is a weakness that must become a strength. One performance offers a ray of hope, nothing more, but at least Pakistan can relish a grand opening.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/680303.html