He was commenting only upon how fast kapil was. It does not mean that he was a bad bowler or a bad sportsman. He could be very slow medium but still a godd enough bowler for India and they had little choice anyway!
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Btw, did he tell you his own experience against Kapil ?? How could he ? Poor fellow was Tormented by Kapil’s Outswingers - Out of 19 Innings he batted against India in Tests He was out to Kapil 8 Times (also 9 times in One days). I can understand his frustration.
AK
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[This message has been edited by ehsan (edited May 07, 2002).]
I think every body can understand your frustration.
First you were looking for references about stats, you got it.
Then you asked for the reference to King richards' comments about speed of kapil, you got it.
Now you have no answer so changed the subject to number of dismissals of Viv richards by kapil, you are keeping ehsan busy since he is editing your posts right and left.
BTW Viv Richards got out 36 times by indian bowlers and of those 7 times by Kapil in test matches. What does it prove? It proves that most of indian bowling was done by Kapil and nothing else. Anybody would take wickets if he is the only one to bear most of bowling.
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Originally posted by analyze it:
**I think every body can understand your frustration.
First you were looking for references about stats, you got it.
Then you asked for the reference to King richards' comments about speed of kapil, you got it.
Now you have no answer so changed the subject to number of dismissals of Viv richards by kapil, you are keeping ehsan busy since he is editing your posts right and left.
BTW Viv Richards got out 36 times by indian bowlers and of those 7 times by Kapil in test matches. What does it prove? It proves that most of indian bowling was done by Kapil and nothing else. Anybody would take wickets if he is the only one to bear most of bowling.**
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Here is the breakup of dismissals of viv richards by indians.
M I NO RUNS HS AVE 100 50
28 41 3 1927 192* 50.71 8 7
Bowler Dis bwd c fi c wk st lbw hit Ave 0 Team
N Kapil Dev (RFM) 7 1 1 4 0 1 0 33.71 0 Ind
BS Chandrasekhar (LB) 4 1 2 1 0 0 0 18.00 0 Ind
RJ Shastri (SLA) 4 0 2 1 1 0 0 43.75 0 Ind
ND Hirwani (LBG) 3 1 2 0 0 0 0 24.33 0 Ind
C Sharma (RFM) 3 0 2 1 0 0 0 25.66 1 Ind
M Amarnath (RM) 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 101.50 0 Ind
BS Bedi (SLA) 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 153.50 0 Ind
S Madan Lal (RM) 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 24.50 0 Ind
Maninder Singh (SLA) 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 34.50 0 Ind
EAS Prasanna (OB) 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 26.00 0 Ind
S Venkataraghavan (OB) 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 51.50 0 Ind
Arshad Ayub (OB) 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 19.00 0 Ind
RMH Binny (RM) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 8.00 0 Ind
BS Sandhu (RMF) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 109.00 0 Ind
[This message has been edited by ehsan (edited May 08, 2002).]
Someone claiming to call the greatest batsman of all time must be out of his mind.
Viv Richards was probably the greatest batsman that I have ever seen play, he tormented fast bowlers like kids, I remember one particular series where Pakistan played Windies in 89 (I think) where the whole batting lineup collapsed in the hands of Wasim and Imran and then came Viv Ricards and single handedly took the whole Windies side to victory by hitting both Imran and Wasim for 10 boundries in 2 overs, man I will never forget that match.
Someone like Asif_k to call Viv Richards a poor guy, shows his real knowledge about cricket, and you claimed that you know more about cricket than all of us.
No Sachin, Lara or Bradman could play fast bowlers like the way Viv Richards did, he used to win matches for his team, and Sachin or Lara will never be able to do that on usual basis.
[This message has been edited by ehsan (edited May 08, 2002).]
Analyze it - You were late, The Post was Edited by Ehsan before you could read the whole information. I was refering to Haynes dismissals. Poor fellow was tormented by Kapil's Outswingers and was 8 out of 19 innings he batted against India by Kapil. I know where his frustration came from. I pity him. First They were stripped of making a Hat-Trick of World Cup by Kapil's Devils, then now the same Indian Team has beaten them in WI. It really hurts him. I dont believe untill I hear it from the KING. You can believe whatever you want, there is no forcing upon you.
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Originally posted by UMAIR316: Someone like Asif_k to call Viv Richards a poor guy, shows his real knowledge about cricket, and you claimed that you know more about cricket than all of us.
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You were also late like Analyze. It was Haynes and not the KING I was referring to. So next time be on time or check for the Edited mesg before accusing me.
AK
[This message has been edited by ehsan (edited May 08, 2002).]
So far you have not produced any statement by Viv himself, all you have produced is someone else quoting Viv. Here is a quote from his biography
“…he (Kapil) has showed himself am excellent attacking bowler. He is an intelligent bowler and his best delivery is the one which he manages to make go away from the batsman at the very last second. It’s a beautiful outswinger with which he’s picked up quite a few wickets.”
BW, It is very easy to Insult a player, I could have done that as well but I want you to read this AWESOME FOURSOME. It will really help you get some knowledge about Cricket and All Rounders.
Yee meen pehley hee parh chuka hoon and i was not insulting Kapil i know he was a great player but thing is simple he was not good enough to unease KING.
Pakistan vs India... I think the test matches have been more enjoyable than the ODIs... My favourites were 1. the first Nehru cup, in which Imran and co toured India and clinched the series... And 2. the last tour of India, in which Wasim was the captain... Both were very enjoyable... All of the matches had extraordinary moments. In the nehru cup, Imran went and defeated the enemy, a noteworthy achievement, in the other one, Kumble got 10 wickets in an innings (though there is some umpiring criticism, but a record is a record) and Wasim, being triumphant, bringing back Imrans memories.
I for one would really enjoy India coming to Pakistan to play 2 or 3 test matches, though that is very unlikely...
Question bhai, can you plz give some details of that series? I mean a brief summary, as to who scored the most runs, who got the most wickets etc, the win margins etc as I would really like to know.... Thanks yar...
If it wasn’t for those idiots at Asian Cricket Board, the third test which took place between Pak and India could have counted as the part of the test series and Pak would have won 2-1, instead the changed the match to ATC league match to avoid the humiliation.
Let me remind everyone that Asian cricket board is ruled absolutely by Indians with very few Pakistanis.
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Originally posted by UMAIR316:
*If it wasn't for those idiots at Asian Cricket Board, the third test which took place between Pak and India could have counted as the part of the test series and Pak would have won 2-1, instead the changed the match to ATC league match to avoid the humiliation.
Let me remind everyone that Asian cricket board is ruled absolutely by Indians with very few Pak *
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I didn't know there was an organization called Asian Cricket Board. Last time I checked it was called Asian Cricket Council (ACC).
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Originally posted by Asif_k:
** I didn't know there was an organization called Asian Cricket Board. Last time I checked it was called Asian Cricket Council (ACC).
Well now we know how much you know about ACC.
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Who cares what the name is, I was wrong.
[This message has been edited by ehsan (edited May 16, 2002).]