Reminds me of Tendulkar and all his records that have done jack$hit for India, which has yet to win a World Cup or an overseas test series during his reign. 
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I think we let them off the hook again. They should not have reached 230 after being reduced to 118/5. Some sloppy bowling at the end, especially by Shoaib. Still I think we should get this. Afridi should just go for it, but the rest should look to see off the new ball and then do what England did, make sure we keep wickets intact and it should be no problem. On this pitch we did ok to keep them to less than 250, although it could have been better.
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I think Kind of bowling English have,pakistan should be able to ahieve this inspite of being one batsman short.Watch out for Giles in middle overs,he may look easy but sometimes he really gets good wickets.I think only Caddick and Flintoff are quality bowler in their lineup.
Looked like a flat track. I dint see any reason why cant get this. I think Afrdi should just blast off and if he can get a quick 50-60 that will put England bowlers under a lot of pressure. Its high time Inzi score some runs. I dont think we will have any problems getting to this total. We are playing only four specialist batsmen but we still get a lot of depth in our batting and with Rashid and Wasim striking the ball good it should be an easy task.
I hope we dont even have to go as far down as Rashid and AKram though.
Good game so far. It is a very flat track...I think England did well however the pitch was there for 275+... I'm not surprised Shoaib got hit for runs..pitch wasn't doing anything for him. Wasim was god himself...brilliant last over. 500th comes against India woohoo! It makes next game even more fun to watch.
AFRIDI! this guy better score...Its his kind of wicket..no excuses today.
WAQAR! (agree with sambrialian) I think he overdid with his bowling changes...He brought Shoaib early which was good however I felt that Wasim should have come after 2nd drinks break to seal the game. He could have lived without Razaq in the attach but oh well!
Pakistan to prove its batting/chasing yet again!!!
AQ, there are two issues.
One is that he bowled expensively, secondly is his achievements while bowling fast. Of course a lot of boundaries came because he was bowling very fast including that 6 about which Nick Knight had no clue as to where the ball went.
I agree his bowling figures are unacceptable, but at the same time it should not diminish his achievements. I dont want to start this argument but it is the same argument where you people say Sachin is the best batsmen even though he is not a match winner. I agree, he is the best batsmen, even though he might not be the match winner. Similarly Shoaib is the fastest bowler even if he is not the match winner in this case.
So let's rest this argument.
Stop this crap and talk about present match. counter my point if you think I was wrong based on logic.
By the way the amount of matches Tendy has won ,Shoib can only dream.
We always put down Waqar in every match for his captaining. Face it guys, there is no way you can change the captain in the middle of the World Cup! So let it be for now. Although I wasn't happy with his captaining either.
Pakistan can easily make this total, as England have very lousy bowlers. The only affective bowler of the bunch may be that new lad James Anderson.
I don't think Pakistan will be deducted any overs, because the commentators mentioned 50 overs?
Btw.. did you guys see how many English fans were there? I couldn't even see and Pakistani's. To think, I always thought Pakistani fans would out number the English fans anyday.
250 is too much too ask of our batsmen especially when all our oru experienced batsmen are struggling.
A pretty decent bowling performence by Pakistan. Now as for the batting, I think Afridi shouldn't open the innings. England's opening bowling attack is a pretty good one, especially Anderson, so Afridi should come in at no.3 or later and play the medicore bowlers after about 15-20 overs. He will do well against them. But if Afridi opens the batting and gets out quick...it will put Pakistan under a lot of pressure and our whole batting line up will collapse as usuall. I think Saeed shud open with Rashid, cuz he has been playing really well these days and if he start of the innings with a quick 30-40 runs, it will give Pakistan a boost and hopefully some confidence. But knowing Waqar, he will get Afridi to open the innings, which I think will be a wrong decision.
It is not going to be easy for Pakistan keeping in mind their record while chasing.
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Stop taking pride in stupid thing like Fastest Ball.Fastestball doesnt win matches.At the end he conceded 64 in 9 overs.Given a choice I wold prefer Chris Harris oh 10-1-32-1 in a team than Fastest bowler who goes for 64 in 9 overs... huh huh
Anyway I hope Pakistan Manages 247. :)
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I was merely writing down what Shaoib said to Ramiz in his interview, for those of you not watching this match live. So it was his interview, not mine. Btw, Shaoib did say he didnt bowl well, in case you are having those serious reading problems again... As for me, I still think its a big achievement, afterall its the fastest delivery ever bowled in the history of the game, and we have a Pakistani bowler's name in the record books.
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Pakistan can easily make this total, as England have very lousy bowlers. The only affective bowler of the bunch may be that new lad James Anderson.
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This is definitely underestimating the English bowlers. Let see, we have no idea what Anderson is about. Caddick bowls crap some times but can be dangerous with bounce. Giles is a very good bowler. Ronnie Irani and Collingwood can be taken apart but for that Afridi will have to survive Anderson's discipline.
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By the way the amount of matches Tendy has one ,Shoib canonky dream.
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Aap ki logic se Allah hi bachaye... Can you be more specific and name the one match you are talking about?
The point is winning matches should be a priority and not personal records. If Shoaib throws the ball at 98/99 he will still be the fastest plus his line will be much better.
Cricket is a funny game. You can never be sure who will do what in a given day - so I agree with you that while Eng bowling is nothing spectacular, a couple of bad shots/lost wickets can really swing things. So let's be hopeful but not arrogant. :)
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This is definitely underestimating the English bowlers. Let see, we have no idea what Anderson is about. Caddick bowls crap some times but can be dangerous with bounce. Giles is a very good bowler. Ronnie Irani and Collingwood can be taken apart but for that Afridi will have to survive Anderson's discipline.
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Well England lately haven't been affective against Sri Lanka nor Australia with their bowling. Their ace was Darren Gough, and that new Simon Jones had good potential.
Irani is not playing this game, although he is a good bowler. (Allrounder)
Flintoff is able to take 2 wickets and keep the economy rate down, while White usually takes most the wickets giving up the runs. Giles hasn't been himself for over a year. With injuries bothering him, I don't think he will be much good. Vaughan might have to bowl a few overs to slow down the run rate.
But.. our batsman aren't superstars! So it could go anyway.
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AQ, there are two issues.
One is that he bowled expensively, secondly is his achievements while bowling fast. Of course a lot of boundaries came because he was bowling very fast including that 6 about which Nick Knight had no clue as to where the ball went.
I agree his bowling figures are unacceptable, but at the same time it should not diminish his achievements. I dont want to start this argument but it is the same argument where you people say Sachin is the best batsmen even though he is not a match winner. I agree, he is the best batsmen, even though he might not be the match winner. Similarly Shoaib is the fastest bowler even if he is not the match winner in this case.
So let's rest this argument.
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Since you strated this comparision can you see distinction between the 2.Humm....As you said trying to bowl fast effected Shoib's bowling and he became expensive.... Can you give an example like trying to do good batting effected Sachin's Batting.Like he was trying to scores Fastest 100 or fastest 50 thats why he messed.
Point is dont try to go for individual goals if its bad for your team.Sachin may not have won enough matches as he should but he never went there and went for individual goal at the cost of teams goal.He never scored a century which was excuse for India's bad batting in any match.can you gimme an example.
You are comparing apple and oranges .
Dear Spooky....
Congrats for getting into recordbook.But I would have rather seen him bowl 10-0-45-3 at98/99 miles than 9-0-64-1 at 100 miles.I guess thats the problem in mindsetof We Asians and Australian.We give way too much importance to personal record.Itstrue for both Indian and Pakis.I guess thats the reason We are team of champions and they are champion team.
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ehsan bhai - the point is Tendulkar doesn't go around giving interviews thanking Bhagawan Bajrang Bali everytime he scores a century.
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So thanking Allah in your opinion is wrong? Bachey, we should thank Allah, no matter something good/bad happens to you, or you win or loose. No need to target his religious beliefs.
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The point is winning matches should be a priority and not personal records. If Shoaib throws the ball at 98/99 he will still be the fastest plus his line will be much better.
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Throws the ball? You just proved how jealous you really are. For your info, the fastest ball ever bowled has been bowled by a Pakistani Can any of your bowlers break that record?
Btw, it has been cleared he does not throw the ball, can you justify your batsmen using wide bats?
As I said I will not start an argument here but maybe some other day on some other thread. Till then peace. :)
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As I said I will not start an argument here but maybe some other day on some other thread. Till then peace. :)
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Peace out :)
Now its time to trash the batting line up of Pakistan... Whose first in line?