Might as well have this up as a sticky…its gonna be the main talking point over the next few weeks…
Anyway…just a point of discussion…Do guppies support the speculation that Mushtaq Ahmed should be bought back into the team?..and does this two spin attack sound like a good idea to you?..
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yup.
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I think we have to bring Mushy in.. the main reason is England is weak against spinners (example Shane Warne).. but then again nor Mushy or Kaneria are in the same league as Warne.. but if they can contribute even half of warne's heroics(together).. we do have a very good chance..
In my opinion, Pakistan's best bet would be wickets that will support spinners from day 2.. English players are weak against spin and they don't have any good spinners in their team.. Giles can stop the run flow, but he doesn't have the ability to take lots of wickets in an innings...
so 2 spinners, 2 fast bowlers, and 3 support bowlers, should be able to bowl out england..
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spinners or no spinners, the best pakistan can get out from this series is a draw.
they will lose the first match...
draw the 2nd
win the third :D
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I want to see Saqlain Mushtaq back but Mushtaq Ahmed will do.
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Bringing Mushtaq Ahmed back is a step backwards. Let's bring in an unseen genuine pacer. Hopefully Akhtar, Sami and Kaneria can do what is required of them.
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^ Exactly, we need new blood. By the way, all this speculation about our bowling is pretty useless, it's obvious that our batting is our main concern. If we don't post big enough scores, and continue with those predictable collapses, doesn't matter what bowlers are playing......
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Mushtaq is a quality spinner...he has been impressive for many years when he was in Pakistan team and his record in county cricket speaks for itself. Shane Warne is old, Murli is getting old why don't they bring new blood for them because new blood doesn't equal talent....he won't be Mushtaq. Look what happened to Saqlain. Mushy will be a great assest and he along with Kaneria can really put England batsmen to spin.
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*Tour itinerary
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England in Pakistan 2005
OCTOBER
26: Arrive in Pakistan
31-2 Nov: Tour match, Rawalpindi
NOVEMBER
6-8: Tour match, Bagh-e-Jinnah, Lahore
12-16: First Test, Multan
20-24: Second Test, Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad
29-3 Dec: Third Test, Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore
DECEMBER
7: One-day warm-up, Bagh-e-Jinnah, Lahore
10: First ODI, Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore
12: Second ODI, Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore
15: Third ODI, National Stadium, Karachi
19: Fourth ODI, Rawalpindi
21: Fifth ODI, Rawalpindi
22: England team fly home.
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I would add Gul to that list cuz none of our pace bowlers stay consistant to their line and length as compare to Gul and I think that is going to be one big factor.
I don’t know about Shoaib he is always a suspicious bowler. He maybe able to bowl 20 or he may just bowl 10 and break up. On the other hand Sami can bowl 25+ but than the guy is so unlucky am not sure if his luck is still following him or not but along with that he some times loses concentration and gets hit all over. Gul is so consistent on the off side (like McGrath) and can bowl 25+ overs (young blood with a working head on his shoulder unlike Shoaib). Apart from that England has not yet faced him so he might get some advantage for that.
And I hope over and over and over that PCB does not consider Shabir for this series and let him sit out.
As per Khan Sahib comments…
**Pakistan, Imran said, could match England’s attack if they had fit bowlers but their batsmen need to improve their form. “They need a fully fit Shoaib Akhtar, Mohammad Sami and Umar Gul and an in-form legspinner, Danish Kaneria. But for me the concern will be Pakistan’s batting.” **
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I really hope they throw Irshad in the deep end right away. He has been bowling well off late. Surprise factor can count here.
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England test and ODI squad to tour Pakistan announced.
England squad
Michael Vaughan (capt), James Anderson, Ian Bell, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Ashley Giles, Steve Harmison, Matthew Hoggard, Geraint Jones, Simon Jones, Alex Loudon, Kevin Pietersen, Matt Prior, Andrew Strauss, Chris Tremlett, Marcus Trescothick, Shaun Udal.
England one-day squad
Michael Vaughan (capt), James Anderson, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Ashley Giles, Steve Harmison, Geraint Jones, Simon Jones, Kevin Pietersen, Matt Prior, Liam Plunkett, Vikram Solanki, Andrew Strauss, Chris Tremlett, Marcus Trescothick
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Isnt Shaun Udal like 40? 
We are in for a tough fight at home, thats for sure.
Geraint Jones kept his place and so did Simon Jones. Any info on Alex Laddo loudon whatever?
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uffffff tum larkay aur tumhari cricket:bukbuk: 
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James Anderson? Is he being brought to Pakistan because he has had good outing against Pakistan? cuz he didn't play much in last few months I think.
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I forgot Gul, damn it! He should definitely be part of the attack.
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Yes he hasnt but (a) he has had a good domestic season with Lancashire and (b) because of his record against Pakistan.
It is a good sport. Watch it sometimes :-p
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Interesting point to c what type of pitches will we make . Last time when England toured Paksitan they made slow pitches and were blamed for there defeat .
Let c what they do this time.
My choice will be fats pitches .