Pakistan tour of England - June 2003

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Shoaib bowled his freaking heart out today. Blame your beloved captain for the loss who dropped the catch when it mattered the most (He has done this before; remember the one day tournament in Bangladesh in 1998, when Pakistan were defending 315? He missed stumpings from both Ganguly and Robin Singh, and their contributions eventually won the match for India). No wonder Moin owns Rashid Latif. The "safest wicketkeeper in the world" has a habit of choking when it's crunch time. People, That Is All.
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Dont make me quote countless incidents when Moin dropped catches that coost us the match.... For starters, in Sharjah cup 2000 when Moin dropped Aravanida deseilva off akram and he won the matc for sri lanka bla bla.... I relly dont like to compare Moin and Rashid anymore but its immature comments like these that annoy me.

Yes Rashid dropped a Big Big catch (probably the biggest of his career) but he still leaps and bounds ahead of his contemporary fellows like boucher and Gilchrist. Dont forget how his catches have won matches ofr us as well. It was Rashid who brought us in the match with two gem dismisslas yesterday and yes of all ppl, he dropped it...

Generally, the fielding was below par, Hafeez dropped two catches off caughan and Trescothik, but this tea has got what it takes to be successful, character and will to fight.

the game....did you see that catch he took of hafeez's bowling, it may have looked simple but it was a very good catch, he was standing upto the stumps and the ball deflected off the bat on the leg side, its really tough for a keeper to be standing upto the stumps and taking a catch like that one on the leg side(where there is just a slight edge involved) and the stumping was a good one too!!!
you gotta admit man, we dint have the luck, put into back on a seaming wicket, two lbw decisions gone against us(one was plum), akhtar missing the stumps on yorkers n the ball running down to the boundary, jsut wasnt out day!!!
the fielding, however was poor, those catches should have been taken. The good thing was that pakistan fought rite till the end. You reallly cant blame rashid for this, everyone makes mistakes!!

A good account of the match yesterday pretty much backing up the observations of most fair minded people of Gupshup apart from the atrociously biased Sobi who was nearly as bad as England’s hand-picked umpires :nook:

**Fortune beaming on Vaughan**

If cricket is a game of chance and superstition, Michael Vaughan must have had an early hunch that he was on to a winner yesterday.

It all started at 11am, when England’s new captain won a handy toss. After sticking Pakistan in on a drying pitch, Vaughan could hardly make a bowling change or move a fielder without a batsman succumbing to his wiles. And when England came to bat, he soon stood unbeaten on 29, having already been dropped on nought and bowled by a no-ball.

Vaughan’s hopes of doing it himself were ended by an Azhar Mahmood half-tracker, which he thumped straight to deep square leg. But the force remained with England. Even as the middle-order fell away, Marcus Trescothick was gathering himself for the home straight. His unbeaten 108 was his third one-day century on this ground, but his first in a winning cause.

Rashid Latif, the Pakistan captain, must have felt his team had done enough.** “England played well but they were very lucky,”** he observed ruefully. Admittedly, Pakistan contributed to their own misfortune by dropping Trescothick twice - both of them straightforward chances - and Vaughan once. But there seemed to be scores of other incidents where the ball flew off the inside edge, or whistled past the stumps, and ran away for four.

Shoaib Akhtar was particularly ill-served by his final return of none for 40. The man they call the Rawalpindi Express has never produced his best form against England, and had admitted he feels the “need to prove myself to myself, the counties and everyone around England”.

Shoaib spent much of the final overs with his head in his hands, and for once he was not indulging in amateur dramatics. His 95mph reverse inswingers should have accounted for both not-out batsmen: Chris Read survived one adjacent lbw, and saw another vicious banana-ball beat bat, stumps and wicketkeeper.

Perhaps Shoaib’s frustration will carry over into some turbocharged performances for Durham.

“It was tough out there,” said Vaughan afterwards. “The pitch was just nibbling and Shoaib was bowling very fast. Every time we play at Lord’s we seem to end up watching a run chase.”

Asked the difference between the sides, Vaughan replied: “Not a great deal. Perhaps playing in English conditions can be difficult when you’re not used to it. But we also had the best of the conditions.”

Only yesterday morning, Vaughan’s predecessor, Nasser Hussain, was lecturing his troops, on the virtues of batting through the innings. “England need more hundreds from their top-order batsmen,” wrote Hussain in his Sunday Telegraph column. “Thirties and forties keep you in the side, hundreds usually win you the game.”

Finally, Trescothick could appreciate the upside of that equation yesterday.

“When I last played against Pakistan here I got a hundred, but I was second-last man out and we lost,” said Trescothick. “So, to get the hundred here this time and see it through was the best feeling of all.”

The only worry for England was Vaughan’s ongoing flirtation with one-day 20s and 30s. After 28 innings, his average remains stuck on 24.33. England have just had 3.5 years under a captain who made up in leadership what he lacked in electric strokeplay, and Vaughan was expected to be the other way round, in the early days of his leadership. However, yesterday’s victory will more than make amends.

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Dont make me quote countless incidents when Moin dropped catches that coost us the match.... For starters, in Sharjah cup 2000 when Moin dropped Aravanida deseilva off akram and he won the matc for sri lanka bla bla.... I relly dont like to compare Moin and Rashid anymore but its immature comments like these that annoy me.

Yes Rashid dropped a Big Big catch (probably the biggest of his career) but he still leaps and bounds ahead of his contemporary fellows like boucher and Gilchrist. Dont forget how his catches has won matches ofr us as well. It was Rashid who brought us in the match with two gem dismisslas yesterday and yes of all ppl, he dropped it...

Generally, the fielding was below par, Hafeez dropped two catches off caughan and Trescothik, but this tea has got what it takes to be successful, character and will to fight.
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couldnt agreed more... well said...

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its not only about one catch....
he did not respond well to the pressure situation....
u cud tell that by the look on his face....
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I don't know about you but all the commentators were praising him, specially his field settings, he did a great job but his fielders and the umpires let him down yesterday.

** Pakistan fined for slow over-rate**
Wisden Cricinfo staff - June 24, 2003

Rashid Latif, the Pakistan captain, has been fined 20% of his match fee due to Pakistan’s slow over-rate in the third one-day international of the NatWest Challenge at Lord’s. According to Times.com.pk, a Pakistan-based web newspaper, Sami-ul-Hasan, the media manager of the team, also confirmed that the rest of the side were fined 10% of their match fee by Gundappa Viswanath, the match referee.

The report stated that in 227 minutes of playing time, Pakistan bowled only 48.3 overs, as against the requirement of 54 overs. Despite being given a 13-minute allowance for various stoppages in play, Pakistan were still found to be three overs short.

© Wisden CricInfo Ltd

**Lord’s highlights need for neutral umpires in ODIs **

From Shahed Sadullah

LONDON: Pakistan lost the third and final One-day International against England at Lords mainly due to an excellent – albeit lucky – innings by Marcus Trescothick, three dropped catches for which there was little excuse and some atrocious umpiring by Peter Willey.

Set 230 to win on a somewhat two-paced wicket, Trescothick stood between Pakistan and victory from the first ball. The Pakistan opening attack gave it absolutely everything to explain why Pakistan always draws full houses in England as the cricket being put on display was of outstanding quality.

There are fast bowlers with more control and swing but for sheer pace and hellfire, this attack is unparalleled. Sami and Shoaib both bowled consistently above 90 mph and had they managed to get support from the field, it would have been a very different story.

In all, Trescothick was dropped twice, on 35 by Hafeez at midwicket and on 93 by Rashid Latif and neither were half chances. Vaughan was also dropped by Hafeez at gully before he had scored and no less than three run out chances were missed.

The irony of it all is that the ground fielding was superb, perhaps the best ever put on display by a Pakistani side. But the catching and throwing did not match it even remotely. Sami missed a run out of Trescothick when he failed to hit the stumps from no more than three yards.

Any of these chances if taken could have turned the course of the match. But Willey’s decisions in giving Troughton not out to a lbw shout which hawk-eye showed would have taken middle stump and another similar ruling against Trescothick when he appeared to have misread Hafeez completely, were inexplicable, given his reputation as the best umpire in England.

On the basis of the decisions made by him at Lord’s, one can only say if he is the best, the ones on the lower half of the list must be quadrupeds. He appeared to have a strange attitude as well; he turned down an appeal for a catch which Latif later clarified himself by saying it was taken on the first bounce.

But Willey walked to square-leg umpire Hair apparently to seek his opinion when, if there was doubt in his mind, the thing to do was to refer to the third umpire.** If this was a Pakistani umpire there would have been an ICC inquiry underway by now and Lord Condon and his gang would be drawing up plans on how to spend another half a million to solve the great Pakistani umpiring problem.

But because it is an Englishman whose integrity is beyond doubt, not a word is said about it. One does not, of course, in any way doubt Willey’s integrity but he is put in a position here where psychologically, it is impossible to expect him to do a good job.

He has been part of the England dressing room during some of its most intense rivalry with Pakistan and to expect him or any former England player to discard all one’s feelings by the simple act of donning a tie is unrealistic. Therefore to ask a person – anyone – to stand in a match in which his own country, which he has represented with just pride, is involved, is sporting lunacy.**

The obvious way out is to extend the concept of neutral umpires at both ends from Test matches on to one day internationals. The present situation where we have both neutrals in Test matches and only one in ODIs is ridiculous, more so in view of the fact that it simply cannot be argued any more that cricket cannot afford it.

The Lordæs match on Sunday must have made close to a million pounds through ticket sales alone. The ‘elite’ panel also has to represent the breadth of the cricketing world rather more realistically than it does at the moment.

The presumption that umpires from certain parts of the world are better than others is a myth that has been ruthlessly exposed over the past few years and any insistence on the validity of this presumption can only be attributed to racism, not cricket, for the so-called elite panel has been the cause of as many howlers as any one else. That, perhaps, will be one of the main tasks of the new ICC president Mr Ehsan Mani.

**Shastri, Jones, Botham all praise for Pakistan team **

KARACHI: Those opposed to the presence of Rashid Latif as Pakistan captain, those not happy with the dawn of a new chapter in the senior team, those having a personal axe to grind with the Pakistan Board or management and those searching for lucrative positions in the Board through pressure tactics cannot be expected to appreciate the fighting spirit and performance of the team in England.

And proof of this will come in the next few days via the media, but atleast former greats like Ravi Shastri, Dean Jones and Ian Botham have only had words of praise and encouragement for the young Pakistan team in England.

Appearing on television shows produced for the Pakistan tour of England, Shastri and Jones were of unanimous opinion on Sunday night, that the quality and spirit of the team, made them definite contenders for the next World Cup.

“I just hope the selectors and administrators in Pakistan don’t do anything drastic with this team. It has lost but it has shown a lot of spirit and resilience and is a team to watch for the future,” Jones said.

He and Shastri also praised the role Rashid Latif and Javed Miandad had played in uniting the team and turning it into a fighting unit.

“You can see this team has lot of spirit and purpose and for this credit goes to the captain and coach who have clearly done a great job in unifying the new and old players,” Shastri said.

He also praised the role of Rashid Latif as captain and said he had done enough in the three matches to show that he enjoyed the support of the boys and the respect of the young players. Interestingly Shastri and Jones believed that it would be good for Pakistan if Rashid was allowed to continue as captain for one or two years and build the team completely.

Jones had no doubt that Pakistan had problems in fielding and the batting was not consistent.** “But they have some quality young players who will improve with time and I still believe that Pakistan was the better team than England.”**

Shastri believed that Pakistan would do well to recall Inzamamul Haq to the middle order. “I can’t believe that Inzamam has forgotten how to bat in a few months time. I think the PCB and selectors have done enough to make him feel the pinch of not being in the team after his World Cup failures. But he should now be brought back he is too good a player to be ignored. He can also guide and teach the youngsters in this team.”

Well Shastri and Dean Jones have always been praised of Pakistan cricet but someone like Ian Botham to compliment the Pakistani team tells you something.

WOW Botham praising the Pakistani team, now thats a first!!! Phir tu Pakistani team buhat hi achi ho gi agar bothay ne tareef ki hai!